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Retired hurricane names for 2017

Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:42 pm

For 2017, it looks like we have three obvious retirement candidates (Harvey, Irma, and Maria), and one possible retirement candidate (Nate). Could 2017 be tied for #2 with 1955, 1995, and 2004 with four names retired? Nate is probably the wildcard for retirement, due to the death toll in Central America, causing a similar death toll to Otto last year in the same area which was retired. The damage in the U.S. for Nate, while not as bad as the other three, was still pretty significant at $2.5 billion, and less damaging storms have had their names retired in the past.
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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:02 pm

Oooohhhh...a subject I actually enjoy !!

Remember, its not damage/death to the US.....its death/damage ANYWHERE

Also,unless there is another)...2017 will become only the 2nd year on record to have two category 5 hurricanes at landfall in the Atlantic basin. In 2007, Hurricane Dean and Hurricane Felix were both cat 5 at landfall.

EDIT...I know what the 1995 and 2004 names were. But 1955...only Connie and Diane is all that I'm aware. Also, didn't 2005 have four? Dennis, Katrina, Rita & Wilma
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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:40 pm

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Also, didn't 2005 have four? Dennis, Katrina, Rita & Wilma


2005 holds the records of five retired names - Dennis, Katrina, Rita, Stan, and Wilma.
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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:13 pm

1337Delta764 wrote:
For 2017, it looks like we have three obvious retirement candidates (Harvey, Irma, and Maria), and one possible retirement candidate (Nate). Could 2017 be tied for #2 with 1955, 1995, and 2004 with four names retired? Nate is probably the wildcard for retirement, due to the death toll in Central America, causing a similar death toll to Otto last year in the same area which was retired. The damage in the U.S. for Nate, while not as bad as the other three, was still pretty significant at $2.5 billion, and less damaging storms have had their names retired in the past.


There are still 50 days left in the season, Wilma, Sandy, and Mitch are all storms taking place after Oct 15, that got retired.

We could get there, but I hope not.
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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:31 pm

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727LOVER wrote:

Also, didn't 2005 have four? Dennis, Katrina, Rita & Wilma


2005 holds the records of five retired names - Dennis, Katrina, Rita, Stan, and Wilma.


Ah yes...I do remember Stan...couldn't remember which year. I misread your post.

I don't know why Emily didn't make the retired list in 2005
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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:39 pm

I could research my question but since we are on this topic what qualifies a hurricane's name to be retired?
 
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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:29 pm

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I could research my question but since we are on this topic what qualifies a hurricane's name to be retired?


Retired names are submitted to the World Meteorological Organization by an impacted nation if a storm causes significant damage or deaths. There is no exact criteria, since any nation can submit a name to the WMO and different nations might have different criteria from others. In particular, nations that get impacted less often will probably have lower criteria than nations that get impacted more often.
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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:53 pm

All retired names for Atlantic basin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_r ... cane_names




All retired names for Eastern Pacific & Central Pacific:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_r ... cane_names


Why use Hazel in Pacific after it wa retired in the Atlantic? :confused:
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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:09 am

I found it strange that when Greek letters were used, none were retired. Then again, only Hurricane Beta was significant enough (cat 3).

That WOULD be a good topic to discuss: what would happen if a Greek-letter named storm were so destructive, it were submitted to be retired?
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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:07 pm

Going back to the subject of hurricane names, does anyone have suggestions for replacement names for 2017?

Here are my picks for replacement names:
  • Harvey replaced by Hank
  • Irma replaced by Idalia
  • Maria replaced by Maleficent
  • Nate (if retired) replaced by Neil
  • Ophelia (if retired) replaced by Odessa
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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:03 pm

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Maria replaced by Maleficent


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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:01 am

The 40th Session of the Hurricane Committee starts tomorrow. We should probably get our retired names and their replacements Thursday-Saturday. Harvey, Irma, and Maria are obvious retirement candidates; Nate is a likely retirement candidate, and Ophelia is a possible retirement candidate.
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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:39 pm

Looks like we have our retired names: Harvey, Irma, Maria, and Nate. Their replacements are Harold, Idalia, Margot, and Nigel.
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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:54 pm

1337Delta764 wrote:
Looks like we have our retired names: Harvey, Irma, Maria, and Nate. Their replacements are Harold, Idalia, Margot, and Nigel.


WTH is an "Idalia"?

I wouldn't want to be anywhere in her likely angry path.

Send me Harold, Margot, or Nigel. Those are definite duds.
 
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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:52 pm

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Send me Harold, Margot, or Nigel. Those are definite duds.


LOL :lol: You probably would have said the same thing about Gilbert


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Gilbert
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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:03 pm

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jetero wrote:

Send me Harold, Margot, or Nigel. Those are definite duds.


LOL :lol: You probably would have said the same thing about Gilbert


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Gilbert


My aunt's house got thrown over a cliff when that Gilbert hit Jamaica, that storm was badass. 30 years ago come September.
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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:49 pm

What about Hurricane Pink? :duck:
 
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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:23 pm

Here is NHC's final report on Hurricane Maria:


Well...the Weather Channel version
https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/ne ... ane-center
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Re: Retired hurricane names for 2017

Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:29 pm

727LOVER wrote:
Here is NHC's final report on Hurricane Maria

One of the biggest unanswered questions is whether Maria was a cat 5 when it made landfall in Puerto Rico. Even though the report says it weakened to a cat 4 storm, unofficial/amateur weather stations in Yabucoa (the site where Maria made landfall in SE PR) recorded sustained winds above 155mph (not gusts...sustained), enough to make Maria a cat 5. However, the two radars that would have been able to confirm the observations went offline shortly before landfall. To this day, the SJU NWS office still operates with a mobile radar instead of the land-based one. So naturally, based on official data, Maria made landfall as a cat 4.

While it IS true that eyewall replacement cycles weaken storms, the question is whether it weakened Maria enough to let it be a cat 4 throughout the landfall or whether Maria had one last energy bump. There's no measurement of how much impact an ERC has on a storm; general weakening is expected, but if the environment is strongly favorable (extremely warm waters and little to no wind shear in the top part of the troposphere), a hurricane can bounce right back as if nothing had happened.

Also...one more thing that should be mentioned: the next time anyone says "meteorologists are fake because they can be wrong and still get paid"...show them the computer graphics of Maria's predicted barometric pressure. Even with all the data, not a single model predicted the fast intensification that Maria underwent. Meteorology is an imperfect science. The parameters used to make a calculation right now will likely be totally different the next minute. The best thing to do is prepare for the worst. The inconvenience of wasting time to prepare for something that didn't happen is far less than the inconvenience of not being prepared and dealing with the aftermath.
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