Legal means of changing birth date from 1989 to 1987

1989worstyear · Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:48 pm

Is there a way I can change my birth year on my official documentation? US or Canadian laws please.

BartSimpson · Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:15 pm

I have to ask - why?

af773atmsp · Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:34 pm

You could, but it would probably be illegal.

Be proud of the year you were born in.

vikkyvik · Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:06 pm

BartSimpson wrote:
I have to ask - why?

Because 1989 is the worst year, obviously.

jetero · Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:28 pm

"Stuck at age 15 thanks to the certification date of the A320-200 and my parents' decision to postpone having a kid by 3 years. At least there's Dignitas..."

(Are you referring to: http://www.dignitas.ch/?lang=en?!)

(You do realize it's not longer 2004, right?)

scbriml · Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:49 pm

Changing your date of birth isn't going to change your life. Seek help.

tommy1808 · Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:30 pm

Well.. there may be people that don't know their actual birth year, although being of by two may be really, really rare, and what to correct documentation once they know their true birth year.

But, as a European and a German I'd say 1989 was a splendid year.

Best regards
Thomas

Georgetown · Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:36 pm

Were you actually born in 1987 and there was a mistake on your original birth documentation? If not, I'd say enjoy having two more years of your 20's before turning three oh. Not to do curbside consulting here, but there seems to be a bit of a fixation. Maybe have a healthy chat with someone who can help pivot your mind into the present.

BlueberryWheats · Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:39 pm

I was born in 1987 and I can assure you it's not like some elite exclusive club. You're not really missing out on anything.

Mir · Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:42 pm

scbriml wrote:
Changing your date of birth isn't going to change your life. Seek help.

What he said.

Seriously, it's going to be very difficult if it's even possible at all, and whatever benefits you think you'll get out of it aren't going to be worth the headaches and frustration. If there's something bothering you about your current birth year, those issues are best worked through with professional help. You'll be far better off.

readytotaxi · Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:38 pm

You can change your name by deed poll, that is a choice, the year you were born was your parents choice.

einsteinboricua · Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:44 pm

readytotaxi wrote:
the year you were born was your parents choice.

Is it though? I really doubt my parents said "let's have a baby before 1989 (and the 80s) come to a close". Having born in said year, I don't see any benefit to changing my birth year to turn 30 unless there's a special event that's available only to 30-year olds and older.

I could see some benefit during my teens if I wanted to smoke or drink or be a fully legal adult under the law. You're already 27 years old (turning 28)...why do you want to turn 30?

vikkyvik · Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:34 pm

einsteinboricua wrote:
Is it though? I really doubt my parents said "let's have a baby before 1989 (and the 80s) come to a close".

The reasoning doesn't really matter. Who else's choice would it be besides your parents'?

tommy1808 · Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:46 pm

einsteinboricua wrote:
readytotaxi wrote:
the year you were born was your parents choice.

Is it though?

I was never curious enough to check of it is statistically relevant, but at least most Taiwanese couples i know want a dragon baby (not GoT related), if it can be arranged.....
And this day and age pregnancy is pretty much a choice and was so in the 80s.

Best regards
Thomas

einsteinboricua · Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:04 pm

vikkyvik wrote:
Who else's choice would it be besides your parents'?

I doubt the year was on their minds when I was conceived. And let's not forget that sometimes babies are born before their planned date: a couple aiming to have a baby in January 1990 could have found a surprise by having their baby born in late December 1989 due to early contractions...that's not the mom's choice.

BlueberryWheats · Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:09 pm

"Stuck at age 15 thanks to the certification date of the A320-200 and my parents' decision to postpone having a kid by 3 years. At least there's Dignitas..."

I'm really puzzled by this. I've been trying to crack the logic behind the A320's certification ruining your life, but... I'm stumped.

mwhcvt · Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:49 pm

This has to go down on record as one of the all time weirdest threads ever, got to say I'm intrigued

cjg225 · Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:11 pm

Drugs are bad, m'kay?

Braybuddy · Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:51 pm

I would say this is impossible. I don't know why any country would allow it (unless while changing identity for protection purposes).

stlgph · Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:19 pm

Just sign up for Grindr and put 18, like every other 40 year old does.

Super80Fan · Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:45 pm

It's 2017, you can basically change everything else (including gender), so I can't see why you can't change your birth year. Legally? No, but it will come.

johns624 · Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:35 am

I just read all the OP's prior posts and although none are this strange, a few are a little bit weird. The one mentions his mother "pooping" him out so I guess he didn't do too well in his biology class...

jetero · Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:41 am

Super80Fan wrote:
It's 2017, you can basically change everything else (including gender), so I can't see why you can't change your birth year. Legally? No, but it will come.

Before you know it, people will be marrying their dogs. Jeez, these days ... :sarcastic:

jetero · Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:42 am

johns624 wrote:
I just read all the OP's prior posts and although none are this strange, a few are a little bit weird. The one mentions his mother "pooping" him out so I guess he didn't do too well in his biology class...

A possible match for 1337? I wonder what his color preferences are.

Super80Fan · Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:10 am

jetero wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:
It's 2017, you can basically change everything else (including gender), so I can't see why you can't change your birth year. Legally? No, but it will come.

Before you know it, people will be marrying their dogs. Jeez, these days ...

Oh, people would if they could. They would also marry inanimate objects.

jetero · Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:13 am

Super80Fan wrote:
jetero wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:
It's 2017, you can basically change everything else (including gender), so I can't see why you can't change your birth year. Legally? No, but it will come.

Before you know it, people will be marrying their dogs. Jeez, these days ...

Oh, people would if they could. They would also marry inanimate objects.

Maybe they would declare themselves to be inanimate objects, just to give you something else ridiculous to obsess about.

Super80Fan · Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:25 am

jetero wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:
jetero wrote:

Before you know it, people will be marrying their dogs. Jeez, these days ...

Oh, people would if they could. They would also marry inanimate objects.

Maybe they would declare themselves to be inanimate objects, just to give you something else ridiculous to obsess about.

In the words of the "Rent is too damn High" guy, if you want to marry a shoe, I'll marry you. Point being either all has to be accepted or none at all. If you want to change your gender, go ahead but you also have the right to change when you are born, what species you are, etc. All or none.

jetero · Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:09 am

Super80Fan wrote:
jetero wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:

Oh, people would if they could. They would also marry inanimate objects.

Maybe they would declare themselves to be inanimate objects, just to give you something else ridiculous to obsess about.

In the words of the "Rent is too damn High" guy, if you want to marry a shoe, I'll marry you. Point being either all has to be accepted or none at all. If you want to change your gender, go ahead but you also have the right to change when you are born, what species you are, etc. All or none.

Ah, yes.

Francoflier · Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:25 am

Super80Fan wrote:

jetero wrote:

It didn't take the two of you very long to turn this into another political thread, I see. Not that we don't know what your views are on liberalism and freedom.

It's much better to grumble about all those 'snowflakes' and express your unprompted disdain of those who don't share the same ideologies as yours.

Super80Fan · Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:28 am

Francoflier wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:

jetero wrote:

It didn't take the two of you very long to turn this into another political thread, I see. Not that we don't know what your views are on liberalism and freedom.

It's much better to grumble about all those 'snowflakes' and express your unprompted disdain of those who don't share the same ideologies as yours.

You misunderstand me, I am for freedom, I am not being sarcastic. However if you are going to accept one thing, you have to accept everything.

tommy1808 · Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:33 am

Super80Fan wrote:
You misunderstand me, I am for freedom, I am not being sarcastic. However if you are going to accept one thing, you have to accept everything.

Yes... once shues or dogs or inanimate objects can consent to being married, there is no reason to prevent them from doing so. But since they can't the argument is nonsense.

To the topic, in Germany you can change your birthday quite easily if you have sufficient proof that it is wrong, and it would appear that among Turkish born people born in rural Turkey in the old times adjustung their official birthdate to the real birthdates at some point is not that uncommon.
The change itself costs 65,- EUR.

Best regards
Thomas

L410Turbolet · Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:53 am

Braybuddy wrote:
I would say this is impossible. I don't know why any country would allow it (unless while changing identity for protection purposes).

Not sure about making yourself older, but in Sweden he can successfully pretend to be 14 even though he really is 28.
Just like gender, age is a social construct.

scbriml · Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:47 am

tommy1808 wrote:
To the topic, in Germany you can change your birthday quite easily if you have sufficient proof that it is wrong

As you should be able to in any sensible country - if it turns out your dob was wrong. I doubt you can change it just because you "don't like" your dob.

L410Turbolet wrote:
age is a social construct

How so? My age is my age regardless of which society I'm part of.

tommy1808 · Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:15 am

scbriml wrote:
I doubt you can change it just because you "don't like" your dob.

Yup.. Dob is just a fact, and hence only errors I'm it's documentation can be fixed.

Best regards
Thomas

bgm · Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:48 am

Super80Fan wrote:
jetero wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:
It's 2017, you can basically change everything else (including gender), so I can't see why you can't change your birth year. Legally? No, but it will come.

Before you know it, people will be marrying their dogs. Jeez, these days ...

Oh, people would if they could. They would also marry inanimate objects.

I'm sure this guy would be up for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VC88P0Fxu4

skywaymanaz · Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:14 am

We're finally going to find out Blanche's true age . . . "Deleted by Authority of the Governor."

KFLLCFII · Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:44 am

Super80Fan wrote:
It's 2017, you can basically change everything else (including gender), so I can't see why you can't change your birth year. Legally? No, but it will come.

This.

Just go around claiming you identify as being born in 1987 no matter what your birth record states, and eventually society will be forced to accept it as fact.

Braybuddy · Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:47 am

L410Turbolet wrote:
Braybuddy wrote:
Just like gender, age is a social construct.

I'm trying to get my head around this. Please elaborate . . . :scratchchin:

BlueberryWheats · Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:49 am

But the thing is, gender and all sorts of other aspects of a person could be altered by surgery, choosing to live a certain lifestyle etc. Nothing can change the physical date of your birth.

johns624 · Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:34 pm

What's troubling is the group he refers to in his sig line is about assisted suicide...strange.

Dutchy · Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:10 pm

I was curious but only to find out it is rediculous.

Francoflier · Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:30 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
You misunderstand me, I am for freedom, I am not being sarcastic. However if you are going to accept one thing, you have to accept everything.

I disagree with that. Nothing is black and white, nothing is absolute.

Freedom doesn't mean allowing everything.

Rights and freedoms have to be thought out and reasoned individually.

You cannot compare changing your gender identity to changing your birthday or marrying a waifu pillow.

Every right that is given to citizens needs to be given on the basis that it will not negatively affect other citizens or themselves. That's the price of living in a civilized society.

BartSimpson · Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:16 pm

And we still don't know from the OP why he's having the idea to change his birth year... Would be great if he could educate us on this.

Georgetown · Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:36 pm

Perhaps the back and forth on the relativism of certain aspects of life can have its own thread. Back on topic here, it would be great if the OP would let us know what's going on. Between the username and mentioning dignitas it's more than a little concerning. I would almost think it's an A+ troll-job but OP has been participating on the board for 9 months.

1989worstyear · Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:53 pm

Everyone - please let me try to elaborate (I don't know how gay dating apps and marrying pillows came up, but I digress). I'm just tired of being associated with a year that I find to mark the beginning of the end of western society, and also technological innovation (hence my constant harping on why it took almost 27 years for the A320-200 to see a significant update).

Looking back, it seems all of the problems we're facing today either became mainstream (this worship of violent "gangsta" hip hop culture by the past couple generations) or began (modern terrorism with Lockerbie) that year.

I honestly think changing my birth date wouldn't change much of me, but I just thought I'd ask.

cjg225 · Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:00 pm

1989worstyear wrote:
Everyone - please let me try to elaborate (I don't know how gay dating apps and marrying pillows came up, but I digress). I'm just tired of being associated with a year that I find to mark the beginning of the end of western society, and also technological innovation (hence my constant harping on why it took almost 27 years for the A320-200 to see a significant update).

Looking back, it seems all of the problems we're facing today either became mainstream (this worship of violent "gangsta" hip hop culture by the past couple generations) or began (modern terrorism with Lockerbie) that year.

I honestly think changing my birth date wouldn't change much of me, but I just thought I'd ask.

Well then. This has been eye-opening.

Unless people think you're the cause of those problems, your birth year is absolutely irrelevant to the problems of society.

coolian2 · Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:04 pm

1989worstyear wrote:
Everyone - please let me try to elaborate (I don't know how gay dating apps and marrying pillows came up, but I digress). I'm just tired of being associated with a year that I find to mark the beginning of the end of western society, and also technological innovation (hence my constant harping on why it took almost 27 years for the A320-200 to see a significant update).

Looking back, it seems all of the problems we're facing today either became mainstream (this worship of violent "gangsta" hip hop culture by the past couple generations) or began (modern terrorism with Lockerbie) that year.

I honestly think changing my birth date wouldn't change much of me, but I just thought I'd ask.

Just about every part of this post is factually incorrect in some way or another.

Georgetown · Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:58 pm

I really do think you should consider speaking with a professional who can help get at what the underlying issue may be (which seems to have somehow manifested itself as a singular obsession with 1989).

Just as a reality check, terrorism has been going on far before 1989, but if your looking for modern examples bigger than Lockerbie but occurred before hand, look at Air India 182 in 1985 or even the Cinema Rex fire in 1978. As for the A320 thing... I'm not even sure what to say.

Either way, I hope you can get some help dealing with this.

TWA772LR · Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:07 pm

1989worstyear wrote:
Everyone - please let me try to elaborate (I don't know how gay dating apps and marrying pillows came up, but I digress). I'm just tired of being associated with a year that I find to mark the beginning of the end of western society, and also technological innovation (hence my constant harping on why it took almost 27 years for the A320-200 to see a significant update).

Looking back, it seems all of the problems we're facing today either became mainstream (this worship of violent "gangsta" hip hop culture by the past couple generations) or began (modern terrorism with Lockerbie) that year.

I honestly think changing my birth date wouldn't change much of me, but I just thought I'd ask.

Screw the A320, the 747-400 entered service in 1989, which also saw the fall of the Berlin Wall.

1989, if anything, was the beginning of the current millenium. The Cold War was ending and modern air travel and technology were starting to become what they are today. The events in 1989 helped make a united Germany the global player it is today, made the world a lot richer in the sense that more countries started embracing open market capitalism; and even safer because (not to get political) the relationship between Bush and Gorbachev signified a clean ending to the Cold War, which the Western world won.

Having just found out what Dignitas is through this thread, I highly suggest you seek professional help my friend. That path is the permanent answer to a temporary situation. It's not worth it.

2Holer4Longhaul · Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:35 am

TWA772LR wrote:
1989worstyear wrote:
Everyone - please let me try to elaborate (I don't know how gay dating apps and marrying pillows came up, but I digress). I'm just tired of being associated with a year that I find to mark the beginning of the end of western society, and also technological innovation (hence my constant harping on why it took almost 27 years for the A320-200 to see a significant update).

Looking back, it seems all of the problems we're facing today either became mainstream (this worship of violent "gangsta" hip hop culture by the past couple generations) or began (modern terrorism with Lockerbie) that year.

I honestly think changing my birth date wouldn't change much of me, but I just thought I'd ask.

Screw the A320, the 747-400 entered service in 1989, which also saw the fall of the Berlin Wall.

1989, if anything, was the beginning of the current millenium. The Cold War was ending and modern air travel and technology were starting to become what they are today. The events in 1989 helped make a united Germany the global player it is today, made the world a lot richer in the sense that more countries started embracing open market capitalism; and even safer because (not to get political) the relationship between Bush and Gorbachev signified a clean ending to the Cold War, which the Western world won.

Having just found out what Dignitas is through this thread, I highly suggest you seek professional help my friend. That path is the permanent answer to a temporary situation. It's not worth it.

I don't think Dignitas would accept "Being Born in 1989" as any more of a Terminal Condition than "Eating an Apple a Day" or "Being over 6ft tall".

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