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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:20 pm

I'm willing to pin a success on Trump: the total eradication of irony and hypocrisy.

A Joe Average from a blue state defends an argument by stating that they have a bachelor's degree (or a graduate degree) from any university and conservatives rail on him because he's a liberal elite know-it-all, looking down and judging the majority of Americans.

Trump tweets he's a self-made billionaire and, like, really smart...nay...a genius, and a stable genius at that, and conservatives' hormones go berserk.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:29 pm

Another huge success for president Trump, Peter Hoekstra. I must say he also wears his tie like his master. What a twat.

http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/trump ... d_ms_fb_ai
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:06 am

Interesting, the US department for foreign affairs has denounced itself from statements made by Peter Hoekstra and effectively rendered him quite useless in the process. Apparently, this US ambassador doesn't speak on behalf of the US :lol:

https://www.nu.nl/binnenland/5083541/vs ... rland.html
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:36 am

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Jerusalem the capital of Israel - check

The decision is now some weeks old. Actually, not much happened, well, at least compared to what I expected.

I am not sure if Trump's advisors analyzed what might happen after his announcement and came to the conclusion that it might be ok.
If they did, it seems that they got it right, I have to admit.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:22 pm

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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:26 pm

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Well, at least there is one Mr. President in the picture. And one or two future inmates....

best regards
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Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:13 pm

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Obama looking in disgust at the repugnant filth in the White House. I think most Americans can relate to that.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:53 am

Speaking of filth, Stormy Daniels' agent says she is now not bound by the NDA anymore as Trump's lawyer admitted to paying her for hush money.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43055995

That'll be fun...
 
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Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:13 am

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Speaking of filth, Stormy Daniels' agent says she is now not bound by the NDA anymore as Trump's lawyer admitted to paying her for hush money.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43055995

That'll be fun...


I think we will need a bucket to vomit into if she starts detailing what they got up to...

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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:09 pm

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I love it. The current occupant and his minion being overshadowed and haunted by a far more popular predecessor. No matter where Trump goes, what he says or does, Obama's legacy will always be there.

NICE. :bigthumbsup:
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:25 am

The Continued Success of President Donald J. Trump ~~ No Presidential Indiscretions

Monica Lewinsky reflects on the #MeToo movement and President Clinton's Gross Abuse of Power

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/02 ... e-of-metoo

What transpired between Bill Clinton and myself was not sexual assault, although we now recognize that it constituted a gross abuse of power. Now, at 44, I’m beginning (just beginning) to consider the implications of the power differentials that were so vast between a president and a White House intern. I’m beginning to entertain the notion that in such a circumstance the idea of consent might well be rendered moot.

He was my boss. He was the most powerful man on the planet. He was 27 years my senior, with enough life experience to know better. He was, at the time, at the pinnacle of his career, while I was in my first job out of college. I—we—owe a huge debt of gratitude to the #MeToo and Time’s Up heroines. They are speaking volumes against the pernicious conspiracies of silence that have long protected powerful men when it comes to sexual assault, sexual harassment, and abuse of power.


That's what was so disgusting to me about President Clinton's affair. It was a gross abuse of power of someone that worked under him.
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:26 am

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That's what was so disgusting to me about President Clinton's affair. It was a gross abuse of power of someone that worked under him.


... says the guy in love with a serial rapist.

best regards
Thomas
 
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Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:33 am

tommy1808 wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
That's what was so disgusting to me about President Clinton's affair. It was a gross abuse of power of someone that worked under him.


... says the guy in love with a serial rapist.

best regards
Thomas


Tommy, let's be clear, I have never said I was in love with Bill Clinton.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:46 am

DIRECTFLT wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
That's what was so disgusting to me about President Clinton's affair. It was a gross abuse of power of someone that worked under him.


... says the guy in love with a serial rapist.

best regards
Thomas


Tommy, let's be clear, I have never said I was in love with Bill Clinton.


I am talking about the current occupant of the Oval office .....This is "The Success of President Donald Trump", and avoiding Jail is probably a success for a career criminal like Trump.

best regards
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:28 pm

“I really believe I'd run in there even if I didn't have a weapon."
-Donald J. Trump/


https://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/26/poli ... index.html

And twitter explodes again. Trump - endless source of comedy:

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The guy who won't take a raindrop for his own kid is going to take a bullet for someone else's kid?
- JackiSchechner‏


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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:49 pm

Dutchy wrote:
“I really believe I'd run in there even if I didn't have a weapon."
-Donald J. Trump/


https://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/26/poli ... index.html

And twitter explodes again. Trump - endless source of comedy:

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The guy who won't take a raindrop for his own kid is going to take a bullet for someone else's kid?
- JackiSchechner‏


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Dutchy, you forgot that time he took down CNN! (That was real, wasn't it?! Jake Tapper has a logo head, right?!)

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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:51 pm

For those who have missed it:

NSA chief: Trump 'has not ordered disruption of Russia election meddling'


https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ike-rogers

Of course, he didn't order any action against Russia's actions. Anyone surprised?
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:00 pm

Dutchy wrote:
For those who have missed it:

NSA chief: Trump 'has not ordered disruption of Russia election meddling'


https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ike-rogers

Of course, he didn't order any action against Russia's actions. Anyone surprised?


It's OBAMA'S fault.

If you have a problem, take it up with him.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:05 pm

jetero wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
For those who have missed it:

NSA chief: Trump 'has not ordered disruption of Russia election meddling'


https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ike-rogers

Of course, he didn't order any action against Russia's actions. Anyone surprised?


It's OBAMA'S fault.

If you have a problem, take it up with him.



haha, nice joke! Me like :lol:
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:42 am

This time, for a change ..... Republicans will get a kick out of the SNL Cold Open 3/10/18

https://youtu.be/2CKGA9w-B6A
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Thu May 03, 2018 7:18 am

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A cartoon by Mike Luckovich from The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: https://www.definition.net/define/satire
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Thu May 03, 2018 9:07 am

Brilliantly captured what is going on..........
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Thu May 03, 2018 9:17 am

 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Thu May 03, 2018 1:52 pm

seahawk wrote:
And his will be the biggest ever.

But then he won't be able to hold it! (Notice the size of his hands in the cartoon above?)

Tugg
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Thu May 03, 2018 2:13 pm

seahawk wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/02/donald-trump-nobel-peace-prize
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/worl ... korea.html

Soon he will have a Nobel Prize too. And his will be the biggest ever.


What a farce . . . the President and his perennial butt boys.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Thu May 03, 2018 7:11 pm

Tugger wrote:
seahawk wrote:
And his will be the biggest ever.

But then he won't be able to hold it!


:lol:
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Thu May 03, 2018 8:16 pm

1,100 economists warn that Trump is repeating one of the biggest mistakes of the Great Depression


http://uk.businessinsider.com/trump-tar ... &r=UK&IR=T

How many warning does one need to see the light?
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Thu May 03, 2018 8:41 pm

Despite the will of the left to have this country fail. It will prosper.

I know deep down the left is hoping the situation with North Korea fails. We say the same thing with the war in Iraq and the left continued desire to have more dead us troops.

It is going to be comical when president Trump's gets the Nobel prize for his work on North Korea.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Thu May 03, 2018 8:42 pm

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A cartoon by Mike Luckovich from The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: https://www.definition.net/define/satire


The protests against Trump are the same pathetic leftists time and time again. Those protests are getting smaller and sadder.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri May 04, 2018 11:55 am

We will elect Trump again in 2020. And in 2018, we will elect conservatives to be in the majority, in both the House, and in the Senate.

Why???

Because, for the Future of the United States, we know the next President and that President's Party, will be nominating and approving several Supreme Court Judges.

Once the SCOTUS has a conservative majority, then this Judicial Activism of the past 50 years will come to a grinding halt. And the US Constitution will be interpreted literally, to the Original Intent, and *not* according to what Social Activists "feel" like the morning they got up.

You want something changed socially, do it through the Legislatures. IF those social "laws and regulations" are Constitutional, then, and only then, will they stand.

WE know what we're fighting for. We know the End Game, AND, because it's doable, with the current President, because He can withstand the constant stormy attacks from all of the liberal outlets, all of time, day and night, and night and day...

You will not move us off our Focus. The Goal is Clear. You will not alter out Focus, or our Steadfastness. Try, as you may. Victory, for the Untied States, has been snatched from the Jaws of Defeat! :trophy: :trophy: :trophy:
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri May 04, 2018 11:58 am

DIRECTFLT wrote:

WE know what we're fighting for. We know the End Game, AND, because it's doable, with the current President, because He can withstand the constant stormy attacks from all of the liberal outlets, all of time, day and night, and night and day...

:trophy:


Loving the post. Nice subtle irony.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri May 04, 2018 12:33 pm

Bigstud69 wrote:
The protests against Trump are the same pathetic leftists time and time again. Those protests are getting smaller and sadder.

I'm still waiting to get details on Soros's job requisition for protests. I could use the extra money.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri May 04, 2018 12:51 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
You will not move us off our Focus. The Goal is Clear. You will not alter out Focus, or our Steadfastness. Try, as you may. Victory, for the Untied States, has been snatched from the Jaws of Defeat!


What's with the Unusual Placement of Capital Letters? Do you think Typing like a Twelve year Old makes your statement look Stronger? It make you look a Little desperate and Childish.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri May 04, 2018 1:08 pm

einsteinboricua wrote:
Four months into the new tax regime and:
1. Job growth is still underwhelming (jobs numbers came in below expectations)
2. Wage growth is non-existent (it rose 0.1% last month).

Where are these so called jobs and wage increases we heard so much about from the tax reform?



These were the reasons the tax cuts never should have happened. Their isn't enough room for "Growth" All we will have is inflation.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri May 04, 2018 1:09 pm

Four months into the new tax regime and:
1. Job growth is still underwhelming (jobs numbers came in below expectations)
2. Wage growth is non-existent (it rose 0.1% last month).

Where are these so called jobs and wage increases we heard so much about from the tax reform?
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri May 04, 2018 2:27 pm

einsteinboricua wrote:
Bigstud69 wrote:
The protests against Trump are the same pathetic leftists time and time again. Those protests are getting smaller and sadder.

I'm still waiting to get details on Soros's job requisition for protests. I could use the extra money.


Just form a borderline leftists terrorist group and one of his affiliates will shower you with money.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri May 04, 2018 2:31 pm

The unemployment rate fell to 3.9 percent in April, an 18-year low.

TRUMP APPROVAL 51%
 
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Fri May 04, 2018 2:33 pm

einsteinboricua wrote:
Four months into the new tax regime and:
1. Job growth is still underwhelming (jobs numbers came in below expectations)
2. Wage growth is non-existent (it rose 0.1% last month).

Where are these so called jobs and wage increases we heard so much about from the tax reform?


Lowest unemployment in decades and companies are repatriating hundreds of millions.

Polls show a majority of Americans now support the tax reform bill. You lost this.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri May 04, 2018 4:01 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
You will not move us off our Focus. The Goal is Clear. You will not alter out Focus, or our Steadfastness. Try, as you may. Victory, for the Untied States, has been snatched from the Jaws of Defeat! :trophy: :trophy: :trophy:


Image

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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri May 04, 2018 4:09 pm

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Polls show a majority of Americans now support the tax reform bill.

Same for same sex marriage, Obamacare, and marijuana legalization. Your point?
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri May 04, 2018 4:09 pm

Bigstud69 wrote:
einsteinboricua wrote:
Bigstud69 wrote:
The protests against Trump are the same pathetic leftists time and time again. Those protests are getting smaller and sadder.

I'm still waiting to get details on Soros's job requisition for protests. I could use the extra money.


Just form a borderline leftists terrorist group and one of his affiliates will shower you with money.


Image
 
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Fri May 04, 2018 4:14 pm

Bigstud69 wrote:
The unemployment rate fell to 3.9 percent in April, an 18-year low.

TRUMP APPROVAL 51%


I guess you withheld the plus/minus 3% error margin and the mere 1500 people sample size in purpose, right?

Best regards
Thomas
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri May 04, 2018 4:19 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
Bigstud69 wrote:
The unemployment rate fell to 3.9 percent in April, an 18-year low.

TRUMP APPROVAL 51%


I guess you withheld the plus/minus 3% error margin and the mere 1500 people sample size in purpose, right?

Best regards
Thomas


#BigStud ... 69!

Trust me ... or him, rather.

Obviously a “bigly” productive contributor to society with that screen name.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri May 04, 2018 5:12 pm

Bigstud69 wrote:
einsteinboricua wrote:
Bigstud69 wrote:
The protests against Trump are the same pathetic leftists time and time again. Those protests are getting smaller and sadder.

I'm still waiting to get details on Soros's job requisition for protests. I could use the extra money.


Just form a borderline leftists terrorist group and one of his affiliates will shower you with money.


We are assuming you have solid proof of this. Facts and links to prove your claim?

Also, the unemployment rate trended down during the eight years Obama was president. That downward trend was called "weak" and "anemic" by right wing sources. The same "weak" and "anemic" trend is now praised as "strong." Gee.... I wonder what changed?

https://www.npr.org/2017/01/07/50860023 ... n-8-charts
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/obamas-final-numbers/

must not feed the troll. must not feed the troll.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri May 04, 2018 9:24 pm

2122M wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
You will not move us off our Focus. The Goal is Clear. You will not alter out Focus, or our Steadfastness. Try, as you may. Victory, for the Untied States, has been snatched from the Jaws of Defeat!


What's with the Unusual Placement of Capital Letters? Do you think Typing like a Twelve year Old makes your statement look Stronger? It make you look a Little desperate and Childish.


Personally attacking a poster, is, in itself childish, and like the action of a 12 year old.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri May 04, 2018 9:39 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
We will elect Trump again in 2020. And in 2018, we will elect conservatives to be in the majority, in both the House, and in the Senate.

Why???

Because, for the Future of the United States, we know the next President and that President's Party, will be nominating and approving several Supreme Court Judges.

Once the SCOTUS has a conservative majority, then this Judicial Activism of the past 50 years will come to a grinding halt. And the US Constitution will be interpreted literally, to the Original Intent, and *not* according to what Social Activists "feel" like the morning they got up.

You want something changed socially, do it through the Legislatures. IF those social "laws and regulations" are Constitutional, then, and only then, will they stand.

WE know what we're fighting for. We know the End Game, AND, because it's doable, with the current President, because He can withstand the constant stormy attacks from all of the liberal outlets, all of time, day and night, and night and day...

You will not move us off our Focus. The Goal is Clear. You will not alter out Focus, or our Steadfastness. Try, as you may. Victory, for the Untied States, has been snatched from the Jaws of Defeat! :trophy: :trophy: :trophy:


is this satire I honestly can't tell anymore
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri May 04, 2018 10:18 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
And the US Constitution will be interpreted literally, to the Original Intent, and *not* according to what Social Activists "feel" like the morning they got up.


Never sees to amaze me that some US citizens do exactly the same as a Taliban interprets the Quran. Quite an extreme point of view.
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Fri May 04, 2018 10:55 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
We will elect Trump again in 2020. And in 2018, we will elect conservatives to be in the majority, in both the House, and in the Senate.

Why???

Because, for the Future of the United States, we know the next President and that President's Party, will be nominating and approving several Supreme Court Judges.

Once the SCOTUS has a conservative majority, then this Judicial Activism of the past 50 years will come to a grinding halt. And the US Constitution will be interpreted literally, to the Original Intent, and *not* according to what Social Activists "feel" like the morning they got up.

You want something changed socially, do it through the Legislatures. IF those social "laws and regulations" are Constitutional, then, and only then, will they stand.

WE know what we're fighting for. We know the End Game, AND, because it's doable, with the current President, because He can withstand the constant stormy attacks from all of the liberal outlets, all of time, day and night, and night and day...

You will not move us off our Focus. The Goal is Clear. You will not alter out Focus, or our Steadfastness. Try, as you may. Victory, for the Untied States, has been snatched from the Jaws of Defeat! :trophy: :trophy: :trophy:


Now you’re a psychic? The fact is, you have no clue at this moment in time what the outcome of future elections will be. You can rant and rave all you want, but that doesn’t change the politically uncertain times we’re living in.
 
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Sat May 05, 2018 12:34 am

I read the title of this thread and expected a flame war. It did not disappoint.....sadly. :white: :whistleblower:
 
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Re: The Success of President Donald Trump

Sat May 05, 2018 1:02 am

CitizenJustin wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
We will elect Trump again in 2020. And in 2018, we will elect conservatives to be in the majority, in both the House, and in the Senate.

Why???

Because, for the Future of the United States, we know the next President and that President's Party, will be nominating and approving several Supreme Court Judges.

Once the SCOTUS has a conservative majority, then this Judicial Activism of the past 50 years will come to a grinding halt. And the US Constitution will be interpreted literally, to the Original Intent, and *not* according to what Social Activists "feel" like the morning they got up.

You want something changed socially, do it through the Legislatures. IF those social "laws and regulations" are Constitutional, then, and only then, will they stand.

WE know what we're fighting for. We know the End Game, AND, because it's doable, with the current President, because He can withstand the constant stormy attacks from all of the liberal outlets, all of time, day and night, and night and day...

You will not move us off our Focus. The Goal is Clear. You will not alter out Focus, or our Steadfastness. Try, as you may. Victory, for the Untied States, has been snatched from the Jaws of Defeat! :trophy: :trophy: :trophy:


Now you’re a psychic? The fact is, you have no clue at this moment in time what the outcome of future elections will be. You can rant and rave all you want, but that doesn’t change the politically uncertain times we’re living in.


Psychic??? No, just someone with convictions. The rants and raves mostly come from the other "side".

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