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Re: HRC wants continued role in the Democratic Party

Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:29 pm

seb146 wrote:
You know who else is bad? Cruz. Rubio. Trump. Pence. Obama. Bernie. Perry. Palin. etc....


You know who this thread's not about?

seb146 wrote:

The other thing I find very interesting is the right wingers who "follow both sides" forget that Hillary tried to embrace Bernie and his supporters because she knew she needed them. Problem was: the media wanted a fight. Ratings slump when everyone gets along. She and Bernie actually made an effort. The progressives want to be a part of the Democratic party agenda. And, believe it or not, they are listened to.


You are smoking crack if you think that's even on the same planet as the truth.

All those Republicans you're always hating on? Yeah, Hillary is objectively worse. Setting aside for the moment that she is not at all materially different to trump or cruz, it is of her doing, and no one else's, that there is a such thing as President Trump. She was handed the easiest win in history, and still managed to earn an unmitigated curb stomp. That's what happens when you spend a Primary fracturing both the Base and Moderate ends of your party, and then completely phoning in the General Run.

I'm disappointed that so many so-called liberals willfully refuse to see this. But I guess we just need to learn this lesson again and again, huh?

If we want a credible shot next year and in 2020 (and opposed to the guaranteed loss we're seeding now), part that will mean she needs to very, very publicly Go Away.
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Re: HRC wants continued role in the Democratic Party

Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:42 pm

DarkSnowyNight wrote:
seb146 wrote:
You know who else is bad? Cruz. Rubio. Trump. Pence. Obama. Bernie. Perry. Palin. etc....


You know who this thread's not about?

seb146 wrote:

The other thing I find very interesting is the right wingers who "follow both sides" forget that Hillary tried to embrace Bernie and his supporters because she knew she needed them. Problem was: the media wanted a fight. Ratings slump when everyone gets along. She and Bernie actually made an effort. The progressives want to be a part of the Democratic party agenda. And, believe it or not, they are listened to.


You are smoking crack if you think that's even on the same planet as the truth.

All those Republicans you're always hating on? Yeah, Hillary is objectively worse. Setting aside for the moment that she is not at all materially different to trump or cruz, it is of her doing, and no one else's, that there is a such thing as President Trump. She was handed the easiest win in history, and still managed to earn an unmitigated curb stomp. That's what happens when you spend a Primary fracturing both the Base and Moderate ends of your party, and then completely phoning in the General Run.

I'm disappointed that so many so-called liberals willfully refuse to see this. But I guess we just need to learn this lesson again and again, huh?

If we want a credible shot next year and in 2020 (and opposed to the guaranteed loss we're seeding now), part that will mean she needs to very, very publicly Go Away.


So, your advice to "liberals" is be stupid. Stop talking about issues and run on purely superficial things and treat your base like morons. Got it. Thanks.
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Re: HRC wants continued role in the Democratic Party

Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:05 pm

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She was handed the easiest win in history, and still managed to earn an unmitigated curb stomp.


Aside of that candidate Trump and his marry men helping a foreign nation to commit an act of war against the United States by ursurping the government.
It wouldn't make much practical difference if Trump had smuggled a nuke into DC for Darth Putin.

The "Hillary lost by herself" narrative is obviously nonsense at even the briefest glance, since a) there would not have been no need to interfere for the Russians and b) since there was Russian help, she would have lost by landslide and not lost with a 3 million total lead in votes.

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Re: HRC wants continued role in the Democratic Party

Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:09 pm

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So, your advice to "liberals" is be stupid.


Well, at least he wants both sides on equal footing then. That is something....

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Re: HRC wants continued role in the Democratic Party

Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:45 pm

If Hillary is so awful and so bad and so forth, why do Republicans keep talking about her? Jealousy, maybe? That Democrats can nominate and get a majority of the American people to vote for a woman with diplomatic and political experience and all they can do is elect a failed businssman who needed the help of a dictator to become president?
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Re: HRC wants continued role in the Democratic Party

Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:07 am

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If Hillary is so awful and so bad and so forth, why do Republicans keep talking about her? Jealousy, maybe?


I don't think there's anything for them to be jealous of there, sport (jealousy would be calling someone who has more money than you a "failure"). They won the presidency, maintained a decent congressional majority and got one of their guys on the bench. They can't go a week without zippering their own dicks, and they still poll harder than we do and have no trouble forcing their agenda. They also know that our team is full of ignorant noise makers who can't seem to help themselves. I'm serious, buddy. "Blah, blah, blah, trump sucks", is not a winning strategy. Guys like you never have a credible alternative available, but you're all too happy to take up all kinds of bandwidth over on our team anyway. It isn't the only reason, but it's a big part of why trump will have his 8 years. Hope you're happy helping that to happen.

seb146 wrote:

That Democrats can nominate and get a majority of the American people to vote for a woman with diplomatic and political experience and all they can do is elect a failed businssman who needed the help of a dictator to become president?


Oh, we can, can we? Because we sure as hell didn't come close this time. Unless perhaps you were taught somewhere that 21.9% of eligible voters = "majority" (spoiler alert: it doesn't).


I'm going to be honest with you. I don't think you're that ignorant and I know that you know everything I've said is right on the money. I truly believe that you would much rather complain about losing than admit we need to come up with a much better product if we hope to win. Hillary is a piece of garbage, full stop. If you don't see that by now, it's only because you won't . All the information you need is out there.

I don't know if it's just a comfort zone thing or what, but everything you've said here feeds the stereotypes of Screeching Liberal Cartoon. And that's exactly what the reds are counting on.
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Re: HRC wants continued role in the Democratic Party

Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:11 am

DarkSnowyNight wrote:
seb146 wrote:
If Hillary is so awful and so bad and so forth, why do Republicans keep talking about her? Jealousy, maybe?


I don't think there's anything for them to be jealous of there, sport (jealousy would be calling someone who has more money than you a "failure"). They won the presidency, maintained a decent congressional majority and got one of their guys on the bench. They can't go a week without zippering their own dicks, and they still poll harder than we do and have no trouble forcing their agenda. They also know that our team is full of ignorant noise makers who can't seem to help themselves. I'm serious, buddy. "Blah, blah, blah, trump sucks", is not a winning strategy. Guys like you never have a credible alternative available, but you're all too happy to take up all kinds of bandwidth over on our team anyway. It isn't the only reason, but it's a big part of why trump will have his 8 years. Hope you're happy helping that to happen.

seb146 wrote:

That Democrats can nominate and get a majority of the American people to vote for a woman with diplomatic and political experience and all they can do is elect a failed businssman who needed the help of a dictator to become president?


Oh, we can, can we? Because we sure as hell didn't come close this time. Unless perhaps you were taught somewhere that 21.9% of eligible voters = "majority" (spoiler alert: it doesn't).


I'm going to be honest with you. I don't think you're that ignorant and I know that you know everything I've said is right on the money. I truly believe that you would much rather complain about losing than admit we need to come up with a much better product if we hope to win. Hillary is a piece of garbage, full stop. If you don't see that by now, it's only because you won't . All the information you need is out there.

I don't know if it's just a comfort zone thing or what, but everything you've said here feeds the stereotypes of Screeching Liberal Cartoon. And that's exactly what the reds are counting on.


"Much better product"??? That is so stupid and crazy I can't even.

The right is so good at propaganda is the main reason why Hillary won the popular vote by nearly 3 million. Of course, that does not matter. You righties hate so much that is the only thing you have. Hatred of Obamacare, hatred of Clinton, hatred of free speech, hatred of education, hatred of winning that you all have to convince your base that losing is winning.

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Re: HRC wants continued role in the Democratic Party

Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:26 am

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... You righties...



Did I touch a nerve? I don't really care what you think of me, since you're not a decision maker or someone I actually know. But I'll just point out that you are (based on postings here anyway), pretty far to the right of me. So if you're saying "righties" like an insult, consider what that makes you...

In any case, you make my point for me. You'd rather cling to an unelectable loser than be part of any winning strategy. And I think that is truly pitiful, sir.
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Re: HRC wants continued role in the Democratic Party

Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:04 am

DarkSnowyNight wrote:
seb146 wrote:


... You righties...



Did I touch a nerve? I don't really care what you think of me, since you're not a decision maker or someone I actually know. But I'll just point out that you are (based on postings here anyway), pretty far to the right of me. So if you're saying "righties" like an insult, consider what that makes you...

In any case, you make my point for me. You'd rather cling to an unelectable loser than be part of any winning strategy. And I think that is truly pitiful, sir.


"..unelectable loser.." that got nearly 3.000,000 people more to vote for her.

Sorry you have to resort to name calling since your guy lost the popular vote. And can not keep a casino open. Or a for-profit college. Or a vodka company. Or a steak company. Or an airline. What a great businessman.

Hillary is not that great but she has experience and knows how to run a country. She would get stuff done. Much better than just bullying people on twitter. She would put on her big boy pants and work instead of golf and shout insults. But that is all the right wants. Jerry Springer politics. Facts don't matter. Ratings do.
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Re: HRC wants continued role in the Democratic Party

Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:59 pm

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Considering she received more votes for President by anyone not named Obama in the history of the United States, there must be some people who like what she has to say. ;)

HA! If it wasn't for California, she wouldn't have come close in the popular vote. Her voting majority was really only "its either her or nobody" type deal. This wasn't a passionate mandate on behalf of the country who got screwed by the system. The party was caught trying to rig things her favor when Debbie Wasserman Shultz was caught trying defraud the delegate counting scheme by derailing the Bernie Sanders campaign, who was a real threat the the Clinton campaign. Clinton lost, no matter how much her apologists try and spin things. Get rid of them.
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Re: HRC wants continued role in the Democratic Party

Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:08 pm

jetjack74 wrote:
Moose135 wrote:
Considering she received more votes for President by anyone not named Obama in the history of the United States, there must be some people who like what she has to say. ;)

HA! If it wasn't for California, she wouldn't have come close in the popular vote. Her voting majority was really only "its either her or nobody" type deal. This wasn't a passionate mandate on behalf of the country who got screwed by the system. The party was caught trying to rig things her favor when Debbie Wasserman Shultz was caught trying defraud the delegate counting scheme by derailing the Bernie Sanders campaign, who was a real threat the the Clinton campaign. Clinton lost, no matter how much her apologists try and spin things. Get rid of them.


So to get it clear, we shouldnot count California because that swings the popular vote to Clinton? Not exactly sure what you are saying here.

And the same could be said for people whom voted for Trump, "it's either him of nobody", so that evens out nicely. In the end Trump was elected, given the system, given the circumstances.
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Re: HRC wants continued role in the Democratic Party

Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:22 pm

jetjack74 wrote:
Moose135 wrote:
Considering she received more votes for President by anyone not named Obama in the history of the United States, there must be some people who like what she has to say. ;)

HA! If it wasn't for California, she wouldn't have come close in the popular vote.


That door swings both ways, without Texas there would be a president a Trump.

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