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Times Square incident

Thu May 18, 2017 4:33 pm

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Re: Times Square incident

Thu May 18, 2017 4:58 pm

Details are scant at the moment. Let's avoid jumping to any conclusions until we have more official information from the NYPD.
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Re: Times Square incident

Thu May 18, 2017 5:39 pm

First information given by the mayor through the live video on the NYTimes facebook page:

20 injured, one young woman killed. Driver is apprehended. US citizen, former Navy serviceman, on criminal record, appeared intoxicated. No signs of a terrorist background.
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Re: Times Square incident

Thu May 18, 2017 5:40 pm

lugie wrote:
First information given by the mayor through the live video on the NYTimes facebook page:

20 injured, one young woman killed. Driver is apprehended. US citizen, former Navy serviceman, on criminal record, appeared intoxicated. No signs of a terrorist background.


Good work on the part of the NYPD getting information out quickly to avoid speculation.
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Re: Times Square incident

Thu May 18, 2017 8:19 pm

lugie wrote:
Driver is apprehended. US citizen, former Navy serviceman, on criminal record, appeared intoxicated. No signs of a terrorist background.

No doubt a Trump supporter trying to turn the news cycle away from Trump.
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Re: Times Square incident

Thu May 18, 2017 8:47 pm

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Re: Times Square incident

Thu May 18, 2017 9:40 pm

KLDC10 wrote:

Good work on the part of the NYPD getting information out quickly to avoid speculation.


Fully agree, they did a great job at staying calm and professional and getting the facts out there asap.


einsteinboricua wrote:
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Is it a bad sign that I really had to go and double check his twitter about this? :lol: :lol:
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Re: Times Square incident

Thu May 18, 2017 11:57 pm

lugie wrote:
Is it a bad sign that I really had to go and double check his twitter about this? :lol: :lol:

I would say it is. But then again, going to check whether he's finally snapped or not is weirdly funny as well.
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Re: Times Square incident

Fri May 19, 2017 12:21 am

So this guy was ex-US Navy? Have his fellow servicemen condemned his actions and distanced themselves from them? Have we checked if their culture encourages this sort of thing? Are we going to keep letting these people into our city?

Not serious of course, just applying the "Muslim standard" which appears on social media immediately after a car is driven into a bunch of people.
 
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Re: Times Square incident

Fri May 19, 2017 12:44 am

Well, President Trump just lost about 50% of his Bible Belt vote. The nerve of him backing prohibition.
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Re: Times Square incident

Fri May 19, 2017 2:26 am

It is believed the driver was high on K2 or a similar drug. He drove the wrong way on 7th Ave. or Broadway, hit pedestrians as he drove up 3 blocks ending at 45th Street, hanging the car up on a crash pillar. He somehow got out of the car and started to take off, but was quickly seized by the NYPD. Upon him being secured by cops (too bad the people there didn't kill him) he acted if intoxicated/high, punched one of the cops along the way. Allegedly he has 2 DWI's and only 28 years old. The dead person is an 18 year old tourist from Michigan with her family. Her 13 year old sister was among the injured.
 
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Re: Times Square incident

Fri May 19, 2017 10:43 pm

Very sad. My thoughts are with the family of the girl who died. I hope those injured have a speedy recovery and that noone will have any permanent disabilities, amputations etc
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Re: Times Square incident

Sat May 20, 2017 2:16 pm

ltbewr wrote:
(too bad the people there didn't kill him)


Well, not many Trump voters in New York, and normal human beings don't just go kill people in rage.

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Re: Times Square incident

Sat May 20, 2017 3:17 pm

Shocking parallel with a similar event in downtown Melbourne a few months back, where a drug-affected driver ploughed into shoppers in the Bourke Street mall, 5 were killed & many injured.

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Re: Times Square incident

Sat May 20, 2017 3:26 pm

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tommy1808 wrote:
ltbewr wrote:
(too bad the people there didn't kill him)


Well, not many Trump voters in New York, and normal human beings don't just go kill people in rage.

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Thankfully the GOP would give the attacker a gun sooner than mental healthcare.
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Re: Times Square incident

Sat May 20, 2017 7:38 pm

MaverickM11 wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:
ltbewr wrote:
(too bad the people there didn't kill him)


Well, not many Trump voters in New York, and normal human beings don't just go kill people in rage.


Thankfully the GOP would give the attacker a gun sooner than mental healthcare.


Thankfully, most members of the GOP (or other parties) don't think as you do.

I suspect that a fair number of us would think it appropriate to give him the other end of the gun, death by firing squad.

On the other hand, there will be others who think he is incompetent to stand trial.
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Re: Times Square incident

Sun May 21, 2017 9:51 am

BobPatterson wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:

Well, not many Trump voters in New York, and normal human beings don't just go kill people in rage.


Thankfully the GOP would give the attacker a gun sooner than mental healthcare.


Thankfully, most members of the GOP (or other parties) don't think as you do.

I suspect that a fair number of us would think it appropriate to give him the other end of the gun, death by firing squad..


q.e.d. a party of murder supporters

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Re: Times Square incident

Sun May 21, 2017 10:00 am

BobPatterson wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
tommy1808 wrote:

Well, not many Trump voters in New York, and normal human beings don't just go kill people in rage.


Thankfully the GOP would give the attacker a gun sooner than mental healthcare.


Thankfully, most members of the GOP (or other parties) don't think as you do.

Oh? Then why did they prioritize rolling back restrictions on gun sales to the severely mentally ill?
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Re: Times Square incident

Sun May 21, 2017 8:15 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
BobPatterson wrote:

Thankfully, most members of the GOP (or other parties) don't think as you do.

I suspect that a fair number of us would think it appropriate to give him the other end of the gun, death by firing squad..


q.e.d. a party of murder supporters


I did not limit the comment(s) to a single party. I can find lots of people (in the USA) in both major parties who support having death penalties.

Murder is, of course, illegal. Legal death penalties are not illegal, nor are they murder.

Go ahead, you can have the last word on this.
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Re: Times Square incident

Sun May 21, 2017 9:47 pm

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Legal death penalties are not illegal, nor are they murder.

Go ahead, you can have the last word on this.

We can open a thread about this, but this is similar to a pirate vs corsair debate. A pirate is a person who stole for themselves; a corsair is a pirate commissioned by the Crown (Spanish, English, etc.) to steal on their behalf.

Why is a pirate worthy of being charged with a crime but not a corsair?

Why is a death penalty "legal" just because there's paper that says it is?
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Re: Times Square incident

Mon May 22, 2017 12:19 am

I don't think you can call this a "terror attack" because the perpetrator was not a Muslim.

Just some Bad Hombre high on PCP.
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Re: Times Square incident

Mon May 22, 2017 3:17 am

einsteinboricua wrote:
Why is a pirate worthy of being charged with a crime but not a corsair?


Corsairs were "legal pirates" authorized by sovereigns or governments.

Article 1 Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution makes it legal for Congress to grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal.

I don't think we've done it for about 200 years. But it has been done, providing for a legal method to prey on someone else's merchant ships and cargoes.

During the American civil war the South issued letters of marque. The North did not, but permitted naval ships to take Confederate vessels as prizes. U.S. naval officers were eligible for prize money through the Spanish-American War.
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Re: Times Square incident

Mon May 22, 2017 7:55 am

BobPatterson wrote:
Legal death penalties are not illegal, nor are they murder.

Go ahead, you can have the last word on this.


Sure. Death penalty is murder, just because there is a law saying it isn´t, doesn´t make it so. May everyone involved in it be brought to justice one day.

But then again, with the Medicaid cuts coming up and the lets "poor-americans-euthanasia law" aka Trump Care, the GOP seems to be a big supporter of genocide scale operations against its own citizens. That majority of GOP members you keep speaking about, that supposedly don´t support your presidents killing spree, is so deafening silent. So, the small scale crime against humanity, aka capital punishment, is probably not the biggest worry. With ~80% of the GOP supposedly still supporting the serial killer in command, your silent majority seems to be quite imaginary.

On the bright sight, with your own government being several thousand times more lethal than ISIS, Americans can finally stop worrying about them.

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Re: Times Square incident

Mon May 22, 2017 9:04 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
BobPatterson wrote:
Legal death penalties are not illegal, nor are they murder.

Go ahead, you can have the last word on this.


Sure. Death penalty is murder, just because there is a law saying it isn´t, doesn´t make it so. May everyone involved in it be brought to justice one day.

But then again, with the Medicaid cuts coming up and the lets "poor-americans-euthanasia law" aka Trump Care, the GOP seems to be a big supporter of genocide scale operations against its own citizens. That majority of GOP members you keep speaking about, that supposedly don´t support your presidents killing spree, is so deafening silent. So, the small scale crime against humanity, aka capital punishment, is probably not the biggest worry. With ~80% of the GOP supposedly still supporting the serial killer in command, your silent majority seems to be quite imaginary.

On the bright sight, with your own government being several thousand times more lethal than ISIS, Americans can finally stop worrying about them.


You are quite obviously bereft of your senses.

You are not the commissar of definitions and moral judgement.
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