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BobPatterson wrote:It's the time of year to commemorate one of the failures of US naval hero John Paul Jones, his audacious plan to invade Britain on April 23, 1778.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ret ... 1b0cc93ce9
The Whitehaven Raid is perhaps one of the best kept secrets in British-American relations. It wasn't mentioned in my history classes nor, to the best of my memory, in any of the dozens of books I have read about our revolutionary era.
Have any of you ever heard of it?
photopilot wrote:LOL.... didn't have much success in burning out the British on their own soil, but damn, the British sure had success burning out the Americans on their soil when they came and burnt down the Whitehouse!!!
TWA772LR wrote:photopilot wrote:LOL.... didn't have much success in burning out the British on their own soil, but damn, the British sure had success burning out the Americans on their soil when they came and burnt down the Whitehouse!!!
Successful in the sense the he invaded Britain, caused some trouble, and left with his life. I guess you can say it's the most successful invasion of Britain since 1066! Not even Hitler or the Spanish Armada were successful in putting a uniformed soldier on British soil.
Keep in mind Jones acted on his own accord. One ship against the greatest empire the world has ever seen (at it's peak, no less) would never cause the damage he really intended.
Dutchy wrote:
And I thought England wasn't invaded since 1066. Guess you learn something every day
And digging a bit further: we have 1688, the Dutch invation http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... story.html
And of course who could forget: The Raid on the Medway during the Second Anglo-Dutch War in June 1667, sometimes called the Battle of the Medway, Raid on Chatham or the Battle of Chatham. You can still see part of the ship in the Rijksmuseum, in Amsterdam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_the_Medway
GDB wrote:I had heard of it and thought it would make a good film, as a farce........
LMP737 wrote:Dutchy wrote:
And I thought England wasn't invaded since 1066. Guess you learn something every day
And digging a bit further: we have 1688, the Dutch invation http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... story.html
And of course who could forget: The Raid on the Medway during the Second Anglo-Dutch War in June 1667, sometimes called the Battle of the Medway, Raid on Chatham or the Battle of Chatham. You can still see part of the ship in the Rijksmuseum, in Amsterdam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_the_Medway
The Dutch, always causing trouble.
TWA772LR wrote:photopilot wrote:LOL.... didn't have much success in burning out the British on their own soil, but damn, the British sure had success burning out the Americans on their soil when they came and burnt down the Whitehouse!!!
Successful in the sense the he invaded Britain, caused some trouble, and left with his life. I guess you can say it's the most successful invasion of Britain since 1066! Not even Hitler or the Spanish Armada were successful in putting a uniformed soldier on British soil.
Keep in mind Jones acted on his own accord. One ship against the greatest empire the world has ever seen (at it's peak, no less) would never cause the damage he really intended.
Channex757 wrote:TWA772LR wrote:photopilot wrote:LOL.... didn't have much success in burning out the British on their own soil, but damn, the British sure had success burning out the Americans on their soil when they came and burnt down the Whitehouse!!!
Successful in the sense the he invaded Britain, caused some trouble, and left with his life. I guess you can say it's the most successful invasion of Britain since 1066! Not even Hitler or the Spanish Armada were successful in putting a uniformed soldier on British soil.
Keep in mind Jones acted on his own accord. One ship against the greatest empire the world has ever seen (at it's peak, no less) would never cause the damage he really intended.
Wrong.
Hitler invaded the very British Channel Islands and occupied them.
Re Americans, there are quite a few buried at Dartmoor. These graves date around the 1813 timescale, and were soldiers captured in the war of 1812.
TWA772LR wrote:British as in, in the UK, yes.
RoySFlying wrote:TWA772LR wrote:British as in, in the UK, yes.
The Channel Islands have a peculiar status. They are British Crown Dependencies but not part of the United Kingdom. They are not part of the British Isles in terms of geography but they are "British Islands" in terms of the Nationality Act. They are not part of the European Union, although included in the European Community customs territory. As inhabitants are British Citizens they have freedom of movement in the EU.
Inhabitants took no part in the referendum on Brexit and I am not sure what effect British withdrawal from the EU will have on islanders.
TWA772LR wrote:British as in, in the UK, yes. British as in the island of Great Britain itself, no they are not.
As far as the Americans at Dartmoor, they were POWs, not Invaders. And I didn't even know of how the Brits handled American POWs, so thanks for the interesting history lesson.
Dutchy wrote:Are they even in the EU? Or are they out side it?
Dutchy wrote:And I thought England wasn't invaded since 1066. Guess you learn something every day
DIRECTFLT wrote:Dutchy wrote:And I thought England wasn't invaded since 1066. Guess you learn something every day
If you'd consider kidnapping English on English soil, and forcing them into Muslim slavery, an invasion, then that's what happened in the 17th Century.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/em ... s_01.shtml
The Sack of Baltimore took place on June 20, 1631, when the village of Baltimore, West Cork, Ireland, was attacked by the Ottoman Algeria and Republic of Salé slavers from the Barbary Coast of North Africa – Moroccans, Dutchmen, Algerians and Ottoman Turks. The attack was the largest by Barbary pirates on either Ireland or Great Britain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Baltimore
DIRECTFLT wrote:The Sack of Baltimore took place on June 20, 1631, when the village of Baltimore, West Cork, Ireland, was attacked by the Ottoman Algeria and Republic of Salé slavers from the Barbary Coast of North Africa – Moroccans, Dutchmen, Algerians and Ottoman Turks. The attack was the largest by Barbary pirates on either Ireland or Great Britain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Baltimore
BobPatterson wrote:It's the time of year to commemorate one of the failures of US naval hero John Paul Jones, his audacious plan to invade Britain on April 23, 1778.
ER757 wrote:BobPatterson wrote:It's the time of year to commemorate one of the failures of US naval hero John Paul Jones, his audacious plan to invade Britain on April 23, 1778.
I didn't know Led Zeppelin's bass player was that old
BobPatterson wrote:ER757 wrote:BobPatterson wrote:It's the time of year to commemorate one of the failures of US naval hero John Paul Jones, his audacious plan to invade Britain on April 23, 1778.
I didn't know Led Zeppelin's bass player was that old
LOL, from another thread you might remember that I'm a Bach/Mozart kind of guy.
I know nothing about heavy dirigibles.
DIRECTFLT wrote:
The Led Zeppelin invaded America on December 26, 1968
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/how-led- ... nt-happen/
BobPatterson wrote:DIRECTFLT wrote:
The Led Zeppelin invaded America on December 26, 1968
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/how-led- ... nt-happen/
Good Grief. The HAIR!
Reminds me when (probably 1969-70) I marched my five sons into the barbershop and ordered "regular men's haircuts" for all of them.
The oldest always had a crew cut, but the younger four wanted to look "mod". I was fed up with them smelling like dogs with long wet hair.
Barbers had a field day while the tears flowed. :-)
Thanks for the memories. :-(
M564038 wrote:You've said a lot of strange things on this webiste, but this had me in tears!
Never realised your extremely conservative leanings was caused by the fact that you are right around a 100 years old!