I find hilarious that moving back EU agencies in the EU 27 could be seen as a plot

JJJ wrote:Apparently non-EU stuff like Galileo satellite contracts and ECMWF weather supercomputer are also on the way out.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04 ... contracts/
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39144990
BawliBooch wrote:JJJ wrote:Apparently non-EU stuff like Galileo satellite contracts and ECMWF weather supercomputer are also on the way out.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04 ... contracts/
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39144990
This is soo unfair! Why are Europeans being so mean and petty?
Surely Britain should be entitled to have their cake and eat it too? So what if they chose Brexit? That doesn't mean you deny them access to European contracts and deals?
Just petty!
JJJ wrote:BawliBooch wrote:JJJ wrote:Apparently non-EU stuff like Galileo satellite contracts and ECMWF weather supercomputer are also on the way out.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04 ... contracts/
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39144990
This is soo unfair! Why are Europeans being so mean and petty?
Surely Britain should be entitled to have their cake and eat it too? So what if they chose Brexit? That doesn't mean you deny them access to European contracts and deals?
Just petty!
Don't worry. David Davis doesn't accept it, so it won't happen.
I thought he was the brightest of the bunch?
seahawk wrote:Typical blackmail by the EU.
seahawk wrote:Seems like the UK government expects them to stay in the UK.
B777LRF wrote:Publicly, the UK government has been acting delusional ever since Brexit. One wonders if that's how they really feel, or if it's just a show for the voters.
Dutchy wrote:B777LRF wrote:Publicly, the UK government has been acting delusional ever since Brexit. One wonders if that's how they really feel, or if it's just a show for the voters.
Most of the MP's were against it, May herself was against it.
vrbarreto wrote:Dutchy wrote:B777LRF wrote:Publicly, the UK government has been acting delusional ever since Brexit. One wonders if that's how they really feel, or if it's just a show for the voters.
Most of the MP's were against it, May herself was against it.
The hard brexiters are running the show and the gutter Press are going on about how brexit will be the best thing ever and that Britain will suddenly become a great power again
seahawk wrote:Seems like the UK government expects them to stay in the UK.
Dutchy wrote:vrbarreto wrote:Dutchy wrote:
Most of the MP's were against it, May herself was against it.
The hard brexiters are running the show and the gutter Press are going on about how brexit will be the best thing ever and that Britain will suddenly become a great power again
Whom are those? Boris Johnson, who else? UKIP isn't a force to recon with, right?
JJJ wrote:[photoid][/photoid]seahawk wrote:Seems like the UK government expects them to stay in the UK.
By wishing really, really hard apparently.
vrbarreto wrote:There is a delusional bunch who think that Britain has the upper hand in any EU negotiation and that it can pick and choose what parts of the EU benefit it and keep those.
par13del wrote:So to be clear, the EU is allowed to remove its agencies DURING the two year negotiation period, but the UK must continue to meet all its obligations as a member during the two year period?
Its a question....
par13del wrote:So to be clear, the EU is allowed to remove its agencies DURING the two year negotiation period, but the UK must continue to meet all its obligations as a member during the two year period?
Its a question....
prebennorholm wrote:par13del wrote:So to be clear, the EU is allowed to remove its agencies DURING the two year negotiation period, but the UK must continue to meet all its obligations as a member during the two year period?
Its a question....
No, that's wrong. The EU is not ALLOWED to remove its agencies DURING the negotiation period. They MUST do so. If they haven't been removed by 2019, then it is a major failure by the EU which must be corrected ASAP, and those who are responsible for the delay shall be treated accordingly.
EU institutions have always been, and shall always be, placed in an EU country. That's not a negotiation issue. That's not open to negotiation at all. It's so obvious that.... no, I won't say more.
Ken777 wrote:TheUK is not in that powerful a position, but they are very important to the EU in some areas (like NATO) and they also have various investments in "EU companies" (like Airbus). These positions alone make the UK someone to respect and to avoid high levels of animosity that we are starting to see. UK politicians with a brain didn't want BRITEX, which should be noticed by EU politicians, EU politicians should also recognize there might be other departure votes in the future and work to hold EU countries (including the UK) close.
seahawk wrote:Typical blackmail by the EU.
Redd wrote:seahawk wrote:Typical blackmail by the EU.
So you think EU agencies should continue to operate in a non-EU country. And removing them is blackmail?
par13del wrote:So just as the EU has a responsibility to ensure that its institutions continue to function after the two year period so too does the UK who must now set up institutions to govern its country after they leave, and as a responsible government they must do so now.
A number of these will require money as new personnel must be hired, trained, facilities built and a host of other functions, how much of the UK's contribution to the EU can they now allocate to this development?
seahawk wrote:Who says the UK does want to leave EMA, as also EFTA states are using it.
vrbarreto wrote:
Nothing.. It was all supposed to go the NHS...
par13del wrote:So just as the EU has a responsibility to ensure that its institutions continue to function after the two year period so too does the UK who must now set up institutions to govern its country after they leave, and as a responsible government they must do so now.
A number of these will require money as new personnel must be hired, trained, facilities built and a host of other functions, how much of the UK's contribution to the EU can they now allocate to this development?
par13del wrote:So just as the EU has a responsibility to ensure that its institutions continue to function after the two year period so too does the UK who must now set up institutions to govern its country after they leave, and as a responsible government they must do so now.
A number of these will require money as new personnel must be hired, trained, facilities built and a host of other functions, how much of the UK's contribution to the EU can they now allocate to this development?
par13del wrote:What is relevant to the discussion is how many jobs are being moved out of the UK in the interim and how that affects the economy of the UK.
Unlike the cousins across the pond, government direct involvement in the economy by actual hires is much greater, so how many jobs are being lost, one would assume that until protections are in place, if the agency is staffed by UK citizens when moved what happens, do the UK staff go with them, or in best case, the agencies were staffed by non-UK citizens in which case the only hit to the economy is taxes and consumer purchases.
par13del wrote:Highly Paid, so I assume they make more than the 70k that Labour says are rich and not paying their fair share of tax....
Interesting...
Missed the rent question, how does one go about building your new house when the landlord says he wants the last months rent now, and will not give you the required credit reference to obtain the loan to build your house until you satisfy the bill, to which he has also added miscellaneous fees for possible damage before you leave....
Aesma wrote:par13del wrote:So just as the EU has a responsibility to ensure that its institutions continue to function after the two year period so too does the UK who must now set up institutions to govern its country after they leave, and as a responsible government they must do so now.
A number of these will require money as new personnel must be hired, trained, facilities built and a host of other functions, how much of the UK's contribution to the EU can they now allocate to this development?
Can you stop paying rent on your flat while you're building your new house ?
seahawk wrote:Or you just join the US system.
par13del wrote:A number of these will require money as new personnel must be hired, trained, facilities built and a host of other functions, how much of the UK's contribution to the EU can they now allocate to this development?
par13del wrote:So fine, one can then expect that the EU will also maintain all their obligations to the UK as a member for the next two years, obligations are a two way street.
If the EU decides to remove assets from a member state which has an economic impact that member has cause to ensure that the removal follows the rules already in place.
The UK is leaving and they must fund their exits, the issue that was being debated was whether the EU can just commence removing assets from the UK without following due process.