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BestWestern wrote:'The publication also knocked Trump for repeating an unsubstantiated assertion by a Fox News commentator that a British intelligence agency had helped Obama with wiretaps, while expressing wonder that he would stick to his position.
Flighty wrote:It seems DT got burned on this issue, and when he gets burned, he may learn something and that would be healthy for everybody.
330west wrote:Fake news! Those New York liberals don't know nuttin. How's your portfolio doing?
NIKV69 wrote:More propaganda and fearmongering designed to take people's eyes off the ball. You can call him fake all you want. Truth is he is the real deal and he is the president. If you want to infer that we shouldn't believe what he says and give him less credibility because the MSM says so you are just as mentally unhinged as they are.
NIKV69 wrote:More propaganda and fearmongering designed to take people's eyes off the ball. You can call him fake all you want. Truth is he is the real deal and he is the president. If you want to infer that we shouldn't believe what he says and give him less credibility because the MSM says so you are just as mentally unhinged as they are.
wingman wrote:well don't you think maybe there's something wrong with the sack itself?
seb146 wrote:Does not matter. An old rich white guy with an (R) behind his name who says he is great will be believed by some, no matter what. That is already being proven.
NIKV69 wrote:More propaganda and fearmongering designed to take people's eyes off the ball. You can call him fake all you want. Truth is he is the real deal and he is the president. If you want to infer that we shouldn't believe what he says and give him less credibility because the MSM says so you are just as mentally unhinged as they are.
BawliBooch wrote:NIKV69 wrote:More propaganda and fearmongering designed to take people's eyes off the ball. You can call him fake all you want. Truth is he is the real deal and he is the president. If you want to infer that we shouldn't believe what he says and give him less credibility because the MSM says so you are just as mentally unhinged as they are.
Agree! The liberal camp needs to smart-up in their campaign against DT if they need to win this battle. And they do, because America's future as a liberal democracy depends on it. So far the liberal media in the US has been scoring one self-goal after another. Ms.Maddow for example. Or Fareed Zakaria. They seem to be in total breakdown mode.
Get your act together people!
cpd wrote:America's future as a liberal democracy depends on the media?
cpd wrote:Think of it, 20 year terms, how good that would be. And all candidates in elections must be approved by the existing Government. It's a dream scenario.
BawliBooch wrote:NIKV69 wrote:More propaganda and fearmongering designed to take people's eyes off the ball. You can call him fake all you want. Truth is he is the real deal and he is the president. If you want to infer that we shouldn't believe what he says and give him less credibility because the MSM says so you are just as mentally unhinged as they are.
Agree! The liberal camp needs to smart-up in their campaign against DT if they need to win this battle. And they do, because America's future as a liberal democracy depends on it. So far the liberal media in the US has been scoring one self-goal after another. Ms.Maddow for example. Or Fareed Zakaria. They seem to be in total breakdown mode.
Get your act together people!
seb146 wrote:Translation:
use small words, hold constant rallies, degrade the opposition, call all doubters liars and enemies of the state. Worked well in Russia and Germany and North Korea and Iran. So much better than this silly democracy thing....
ltbewr wrote:The WSJ is the leading newspaper of 'Wall Street'. I suspect the editors fear that President Trump* may say or do something (even more than he has already) to destabilize the financial markets in the near to medium future. While the 'stock market' is going strong for now overall, it may weaken in the next few months due to decisions on foreign policy like the ban on access to the USA of citizens of certain countries or the 'laptop ban' on certain flights from the ME.
BawliBooch wrote:DT is smarter and more agile than most of us. We need to do some serious soul-searching.
BawliBooch wrote:cpd wrote:America's future as a liberal democracy depends on the media?
I like to see the media as the conscience keepers in society. We have a job as journalists to ensure that peoples rights stay protected. That their voices get heard. Especially the voices of the economically or otherwise deprived.
If the media wont take on a dictator trampling on the constitution and peoples freedoms who will?cpd wrote:Think of it, 20 year terms, how good that would be. And all candidates in elections must be approved by the existing Government. It's a dream scenario.
Sarcasm? I hope!
BawliBooch wrote:cpd wrote:Think of it, 20 year terms, how good that would be. And all candidates in elections must be approved by the existing Government. It's a dream scenario.
Sarcasm? I hope!
ltbewr wrote:The WSJ is the leading newspaper of 'Wall Street'. I suspect the editors fear that President Trump* may say or do something (even more than he has already) to destabilize the financial markets in the near to medium future. .
BawliBooch wrote:NIKV69 wrote:More propaganda and fearmongering designed to take people's eyes off the ball. You can call him fake all you want. Truth is he is the real deal and he is the president. If you want to infer that we shouldn't believe what he says and give him less credibility because the MSM says so you are just as mentally unhinged as they are.
Agree! The liberal camp needs to smart-up in their campaign against DT if they need to win this battle. And they do, because America's future as a liberal democracy depends on it. So far the liberal media in the US has been scoring one self-goal after another. Ms.Maddow for example. Or Fareed Zakaria. They seem to be in total breakdown mode.
Get your act together people!
Aesma wrote:BawliBooch wrote:NIKV69 wrote:More propaganda and fearmongering designed to take people's eyes off the ball. You can call him fake all you want. Truth is he is the real deal and he is the president. If you want to infer that we shouldn't believe what he says and give him less credibility because the MSM says so you are just as mentally unhinged as they are.
Agree! The liberal camp needs to smart-up in their campaign against DT if they need to win this battle. And they do, because America's future as a liberal democracy depends on it. So far the liberal media in the US has been scoring one self-goal after another. Ms.Maddow for example. Or Fareed Zakaria. They seem to be in total breakdown mode.
Get your act together people!
The WSJ is not in the liberal camp, that's why this is significant.
BestWestern wrote:A good example. Washington post and Fox News are now left of the government!
BawliBooch wrote:seb146 wrote:Translation:
use small words, hold constant rallies, degrade the opposition, call all doubters liars and enemies of the state. Worked well in Russia and Germany and North Korea and Iran. So much better than this silly democracy thing....
Add India to the list. I get called anti-national, libtard, Presstitute and so on every day!
But I concede that some of my colleagues in the US have not been smart enough in their approach. Making the same mistakes we made here in India.
DT is smarter and more agile than most of us. We need to do some serious soul-searching.
wingman wrote:So now the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal is also unhinged? All they're saying is the truth, the President cannot stop lying through his fucking teeth nearly every single day of the week and that that is in fact very damaging to the prospects of advancing the same conservative agenda that the Wall Street Journal has been dreaming of since the day Ron Ron left office. Just an FYI, the WSJ is about the most respected right-wing news organization in the country. They back the GOP nearly 100% and serve as a very cogent, even if I have to admit disagreeable to me personally, mouthpiece for conservative voters. But like any intelligent conservative they are admitting that the country has a problem in Trump. If anyone or anything is unhinged, it's him. When Comey and MI-6 say in plain English that our President is a lying sack of shit on the same morning and that same sack of shit and his press secretary double down on the shit sack later in the day, well don't you think maybe there's something wrong with the sack itself?
NIKV69 wrote:I am not a conservative. I am a moderate.
coolian2 wrote:NIKV69 wrote:I am not a conservative. I am a moderate.
Yet in another thread you claim "We won".
Hmmm?
NIKV69 wrote:coolian2 wrote:NIKV69 wrote:I am not a conservative. I am a moderate.
Yet in another thread you claim "We won".
Hmmm?
Google Joe Manchin then Google Kamala Harris.
Two Democrats two people who couldn't be more polar opposite. Until this country gets a third party I have to vote for one or the other.
tommy1808 wrote:I don´t think you get the point he was making. You claimed "We won", when only the very far, disconnected from reality, right has one. Which you included yourself in by saying "We".
best regards
Thomas
NIKV69 wrote:tommy1808 wrote:I don´t think you get the point he was making. You claimed "We won", when only the very far, disconnected from reality, right has one. Which you included yourself in by saying "We".
best regards
Thomas
No as usual you didn't get the point and tried to explain how you did by inventing a fake scenario. People in the middle and on the far right won because even though Trump wasn't their first choice they had to vote for him since Hillary would have been a disaster. It's why she lost. If Cuomo would have run I would have voted for him and so would all of the middle and he would have won. If you understood politics you would understand.