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Comey Speaks

Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:56 pm

James Comey spoke to the House Intelligence Committee today, about several ongoing issues. Here was what we found out.

1. There is zero evidence that President Barack Obama wiretapped then-candidate Donald Trump. Comey said no president could order such a move without court approval.

2. The FBI is conducting an investigation into Russian activity during the 2016 U.S. Presidential election, and whether there was any collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign. Since the investigation is ongoing, Comey did not comment on any preliminary findings.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... d560201b3c
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Re: Comey Speaks

Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:06 pm

Well, then, maybe the President can stop flipping about, and tend to business.
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Re: Comey Speaks

Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:19 pm

Oh so news then. The president lied en the Russian connection is still being investigated.

A man with big hands might be inclined to offer an apology to the former president...........
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Re: Comey Speaks

Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:28 pm

As much as I favor his testimony, it still says a lot that he felt the need to comment on Clinton's emails and not Russian meddling and possible collusion with the Trump campaign.

But...but...her emails...
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Re: Comey Speaks

Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:58 pm

einsteinboricua wrote:
As much as I favor his testimony, it still says a lot that he felt the need to comment on Clinton's emails and not Russian meddling and possible collusion with the Trump campaign.


Yeah, it says that the investigation into her emails is pretty much done and finished, and that the investigation into Trump/Russia is still going strong and he's committed to doing it properly.

I didn't catch all of the hearing yesterday, but I did see Trey Gowdy's questions to Comey, which were all about finding out who was leaking information, including information about Flynn. Apparently if he'd had his way, an agent of a foreign country would still be the National Security Advisor to the president. That's shameful (and also ironic because he had zero problem leaking stuff about Hillary when he was doing an investigation on her).
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Re: Comey Speaks

Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:36 pm

Interestingly, before Comey's sworn testimony, the cheeto-in-chief felt the need to decry any reporting on it as "fake news."
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Re: Comey Speaks

Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:52 pm

sccutler wrote:
Well, then, maybe the President can stop flipping about, and tend to business.


Flipping about is what he does to distract everybody from his inability to tend to business...

seb146 wrote:
Interestingly, before Comey's sworn testimony, the cheeto-in-chief felt the need to decry any reporting on it as "fake news."


He was lying on twitter about a congressional hearing about his lies on twitter.

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Re: Comey Speaks

Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:22 pm

Is Trump becoming a lame duck president?
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Re: Comey Speaks

Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:43 pm

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Is Trump becoming a lame duck president?

That may be a good way to look at it. The Republicans intend to use him to get legislation that they want passed, but it appears that he has already used up any good will he might have had with them. He might wind up being the most powerless president in US history with both the Dems and the Republicans rejecting his influence.

That probably won't sit well with a person with as tyrannical of a personality as Trump has.
 
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Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:11 pm

salttee wrote:
The Republicans intend to use him to get legislation that they want passed, but it appears that he has already used up any good will he might have had with them.

Indeed...that appears to be the bargain struck with the GOP for a life-long Democrat and serial womanizer to be supported for POTUS. They'll stick with him until its politically expedient not to do so, like anything else in politics. I don't anticipate it will happen quickly, and that it will likely come from the Rust Belt, whose residents want their union-wage jobs back.

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He was lying on twitter about a congressional hearing about his lies on twitter.

Yeah...that made me dizzy watching him try to chase his tail.
 
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Re: Comey Speaks

Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:05 pm

Middle and lower middle income Rust Belt Trump voters are going to be wondering very soon how it came to pass that they voted against a coastal elite beholden to secret ties with the 1% only to vote for a real coastal elite even more beholden to the 1% and even possibly a hostile foreign government, all the while practicing hard core nepotism and taking away their healthcare. Poor bastards must be wondering already.
 
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Re: Comey Speaks

Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:24 pm

sccutler wrote:
Well, then, maybe the President can stop flipping about, and tend to business.


He has been, maybe if the media reported on it you would see it instead of the worthless propaganda that Maxine Waters is going to impeach him because the Russians stole the election. Which is the only thing getting reported.

Dutchy wrote:
Oh so news then. The president lied en the Russian connection is still being investigated.

A man with big hands might be inclined to offer an apology to the former president...........


LOL don't hold your breath waiting. Just as Reid didn't apologize for calling Romney a felon tax evader and admitted it won them the election. Politics is a contact sport and you need to stop living in the echo chamber.


BestWestern wrote:
Is Trump becoming a lame duck president?


This dog and pony show means nothing to the voters that decide a general election. Only the fringe people we see in threads here buy into this smoke and mirror tactic. How Trump handles the health care bill and any terrorism will tell us if he wins in 2020. If the health care bill is successful whoever runs against him in 2020 will suffer the same fate as Hillary.
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Re: Comey Speaks

Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:16 pm

BestWestern wrote:
Is Trump becoming a lame duck president?


Could be. With that in mind, I don't think it's right that he gets to nominate a person for SCOTUS, being his last year in office. :duck:
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Re: Comey Speaks

Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:16 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
LOL don't hold your breath waiting. Just as Reid didn't apologize for calling Romney a felon tax evader and admitted it won them the election. Politics is a contact sport and you need to stop living in the echo chamber.


No, watching from across the water, it is like looking a train wreck in slow motion, very entertaining indeed. It doesn't effect me personally, but I do think in the end it will harm the world because he won't invest in the climate, nor wil Pence when he becomes president.
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Re: Comey Speaks

Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:33 pm

Dutchy wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
LOL don't hold your breath waiting. Just as Reid didn't apologize for calling Romney a felon tax evader and admitted it won them the election. Politics is a contact sport and you need to stop living in the echo chamber.


No, watching from across the water, it is like looking a train wreck in slow motion, very entertaining indeed. It doesn't effect me personally, but I do think in the end it will harm the world because he won't invest in the climate, nor wil Pence when he becomes president.


It may affect you, Dutchy, more than you know. When you have a nutjob like this with the most powerful military at his disposal, it can affect everyone on the planet.
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Re: Comey Speaks

Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:47 pm

Hillis wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:
LOL don't hold your breath waiting. Just as Reid didn't apologize for calling Romney a felon tax evader and admitted it won them the election. Politics is a contact sport and you need to stop living in the echo chamber.


No, watching from across the water, it is like looking a train wreck in slow motion, very entertaining indeed. It doesn't effect me personally, but I do think in the end it will harm the world because he won't invest in the climate, nor wil Pence when he becomes president.


It may affect you, Dutchy, more than you know. When you have a nutjob like this with the most powerful military at his disposal, it can affect everyone on the planet.


Don't think the American military is that stupid and to follow this 'commander in chief' everywhere. In the end there stands professionals in the way of launching nuclear missiles.
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Re: Comey Speaks

Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:53 am

Dutchy wrote:
Hillis wrote:
Dutchy wrote:

No, watching from across the water, it is like looking a train wreck in slow motion, very entertaining indeed. It doesn't effect me personally, but I do think in the end it will harm the world because he won't invest in the climate, nor wil Pence when he becomes president.


It may affect you, Dutchy, more than you know. When you have a nutjob like this with the most powerful military at his disposal, it can affect everyone on the planet.


Don't think the American military is that stupid and to follow this 'commander in chief' everywhere. In the end there stands professionals in the way of launching nuclear missiles.


Personally, I really don't want to take that risk. We've seen far too many times in the past how the term "just following orders" has led to millons of deaths. He wouldn't need the whole military to back a nuclear order.
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Re: Comey Speaks

Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:24 am

This week in the Trump / Russia saga:

New allegations regarding Manafort's shady dealings with pro-Russians in Ukraine:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39348265

Meanwhile, Tillerson will skip a NATO meeting to go see his buddies in the Kremlin instead:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39339431

But I'm sure it's all just more coincidences...
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Re: Comey Speaks

Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:26 am

Dutchy wrote:
No, watching from across the water, it is like looking a train wreck in slow motion, very entertaining indeed. It doesn't effect me personally, but I do think in the end it will harm the world because he won't invest in the climate, nor wil Pence when he becomes president.


Oh yea I forgot, according to Gore we are all supposed to experiencing 120 degree temps. Guess the 3 inches of snow still on my lawn is an illusion. :hot:
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Re: Comey Speaks

Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:38 am

NIKV69 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
No, watching from across the water, it is like looking a train wreck in slow motion, very entertaining indeed. It doesn't effect me personally, but I do think in the end it will harm the world because he won't invest in the climate, nor wil Pence when he becomes president.


Oh yea I forgot, according to Gore we are all supposed to experiencing 120 degree temps. Guess the 3 inches of snow still on my lawn is an illusion. :hot:


And so we have someone else whom confuses climate change with weather. And really that is anecdotical proof, so it says exactly nothing. Read up so you don't make this kind of foolish mistakes ;)
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Re: Comey Speaks

Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:41 am

Hillis wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Hillis wrote:

It may affect you, Dutchy, more than you know. When you have a nutjob like this with the most powerful military at his disposal, it can affect everyone on the planet.


Don't think the American military is that stupid and to follow this 'commander in chief' everywhere. In the end there stands professionals in the way of launching nuclear missiles.


Personally, I really don't want to take that risk. We've seen far too many times in the past how the term "just following orders" has led to millons of deaths. He wouldn't need the whole military to back a nuclear order.


True, but I don't worry about something I have no influence over, that is a waste of energy :D
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Re: Comey Speaks

Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:26 pm

If the shoe were on the other foot, and it had been president Clinton who had been under investigation, would Republicans cooperate and confirm a SCOTUS nominee?

Who am I kidding? Of course not. They already made the case:
Richard Burr
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Ted Cruz

So...because Comey confirmed that there IS an investigation on the Trump campaign, it only makes sense that Democrats keep the seat open until the investigation is over. After all, during the campaign, Republicans themselves insisted that a president under investigation should not be allowed to appoint anyone. And they also insisted that the SCOTUS could operate with less than 9 members (according to them, there is precedent).

Waiting for our resident Trump supporters to tell me how I'm wrong though.
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Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:38 pm

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After all, during the campaign, Republicans themselves insisted that a president under investigation should not be allowed to appoint anyone.


They even said someone under FBI investigation is unqualified to be president. They should insist for Trump to step down right now....

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Re: Comey Speaks

Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:46 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
einsteinboricua wrote:
After all, during the campaign, Republicans themselves insisted that a president under investigation should not be allowed to appoint anyone.


They even said someone under FBI investigation is unqualified to be president. They should insist for Trump to step down right now....

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Fat chance of that happening. It was only valid to them if it involved a Democrat.
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Re: Comey Speaks

Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:47 pm

tommy1808 wrote:
einsteinboricua wrote:
After all, during the campaign, Republicans themselves insisted that a president under investigation should not be allowed to appoint anyone.


They even said someone under FBI investigation is unqualified to be president. They should insist for Trump to step down right now....

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Thomas, did you forget to read the fine print again? That only is the case if it is a Democratic president, for a Republican another set of rules applies.
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Re: Comey Speaks

Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:31 pm

Remember the classic mantra:

It's OK If You're A Republican (aka. IOKIYAR).
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Re: Comey Speaks

Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:53 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
No, watching from across the water, it is like looking a train wreck in slow motion, very entertaining indeed. It doesn't effect me personally, but I do think in the end it will harm the world because he won't invest in the climate, nor wil Pence when he becomes president.


Oh yea I forgot, according to Gore we are all supposed to experiencing 120 degree temps. Guess the 3 inches of snow still on my lawn is an illusion. :hot:



We did get those temperatures you talk about on Sydney. Hottest two days I've ever experienced. It was unbearably hot.

Thank goodness we did not have power shortages- the benefit of Sydney residents rushing to solar power to reduce power costs (nearly every second or third home has it).

I also remember during the holidays riding over 1000km during an incredibly hot week. So yes, the weather you speak of did occur.

Now, back to the discussion on Trump/Russia and the FBI...

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