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Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:08 am

Wrong the history of the DVD goes much further back. Only because the name changed in late 1942, it does not mean that the organisation does to reach further back. In fact you can trace it back to at least 1865..
 
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Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:33 am

seahawk wrote:
Wrong the history of the DVD goes much further back. Only because the name changed in late 1942, it does not mean that the organisation does to reach further back. In fact you can trace it back to at least 1865..


1865? Don't you see the link goes much deeper than that? It could be that the DVD (and its pre esters) are actually a front organization and they get their orders from a group which remains hidden and they are still hidden from Spyhunter.
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Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:20 pm

Was the DVD behind the US military Herc that went down today in Mississippi?
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Re: MH370 & MH17: Spyhunter theories for his fans

Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:25 pm

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Was the DVD behind the US military Herc that went down today in Mississippi?

There's no such thing as an aircraft accident... :shock:
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Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:37 pm

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Was the DVD behind the US military Herc that went down today in Mississippi?

It was secretly airplane parts retrieved from Japan. Details are sketchy, but it might have been from Amy Johnson's plane.
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Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:18 pm

The lowest form of wit, PT!

I can't comment on the Herc which went down, although I'm sorry to hear it. There are such things as aircraft accidents - my thesis is that many crashes are also caused deliberately, more than you might suppose.

Seahawk is quite right, with respect, re the history of the DVD. It brought together existing German intelligence organisations, including the Gestapo and the Abwehr. There was also clearly a black organisation behind them, and it goes way back into the 19th century. The DVD as such however was only formed in 1943 and was a merger of an existing covert agency and the overt intelligence structures of the Third Reich.

The DVD's ethical standards are essentially those of the agencies it replaced. If anything, the Gestapo were nicer.

I can take a joke as well as the next man, but these boys play for keeps. I hope that none of my critics ever find themselves and their passengers on the receiving end of a DVD op, like poor Captain Dubois on AF447. Having hundreds of innocent civilians aboard is no greater protection than being innocent was for the people of Guernica.
 
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Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:23 am

What a Doozy of thread this is.
 
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Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:04 pm

Thanks! Of course there are many quality contributors to this thread.

I hope no one will mind my mentioning my little win over Tokyo over Amelia Earhart, the American aviatrix they shot down in 1937. She once drove an SS1 Jaguar by the way (albeit that the Jag name only came in after the war). I think it just sold at auction. She had fine taste - the SS1 was a handsome automobile.

Tokyo claimed the photo released by the History Channel of Amelia and Fred Noonan, plus the fuselage of their Electra, taken by an ONI agent at Jaluit Atoll in 1937, was really taken in 1935. The problem, as I pointed out in Sunday, is that the ship towing the barge with the plane on it has been identified as the IJN Koshu, and she wasn't commissioned until 1937!

I identified the Koshu as one of two IJN warships involved in the retrieval of the Electra in 2014.

There is no doubt the Electra was shot down, on my analysis by Claudes from the Akagi, which was allegedly in dry-dock in July 1937, only she wasn't.
 
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Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:19 pm

Your bottle of Scotch is on its way, Dutchy! Just a small one, I'm afraid, as there are limits to the size you can post from the UK, a fresh discovery for me.

I hope nobody is flying to Pyongyang in the next few weeks! Should be able to avoid a war, and if there is one it should be conventional only, with a win for the Good Guys. Thankfully, with President Trump in power, there won't be a silly Eisenhower-style truce.
 
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Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:22 pm

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The lowest form of wit, PT!

I can't comment on the Herc which went down, although I'm sorry to hear it. There are such things as aircraft accidents - my thesis is that many crashes are also caused deliberately, more than you might suppose.

Seahawk is quite right, with respect, re the history of the DVD. It brought together existing German intelligence organisations, including the Gestapo and the Abwehr. There was also clearly a black organisation behind them, and it goes way back into the 19th century. The DVD as such however was only formed in 1943 and was a merger of an existing covert agency and the overt intelligence structures of the Third Reich.

The DVD's ethical standards are essentially those of the agencies it replaced. If anything, the Gestapo were nicer.

I can take a joke as well as the next man, but these boys play for keeps. I hope that none of my critics ever find themselves and their passengers on the receiving end of a DVD op, like poor Captain Dubois on AF447. Having hundreds of innocent civilians aboard is no greater protection than being innocent was for the people of Guernica.


I wonder if the DVD are part of the Rothschild covert empire, they need a dark organisation to carry out works which they can't be linked to.
 
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Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:13 pm

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Your bottle of Scotch is on its way, Dutchy!

:thumbsup: In time for Dutchy to toast to the launch of my book in September, the exact date of which is awaiting the confirmation of the distinguished Guest of Honor.
Now very busy with the planning and a thousand & one details. My VVIP & VIP guest list will be quite impressive (where a mundane book launch is concerned)....if it tracks to plan. :smile:
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Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:00 pm

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Your bottle of Scotch is on its way, Dutchy! .


Ah great, no trip to the Baltics for you in the foreseeable future?
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Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:01 pm

neutrino wrote:
Spyhunter wrote:
Your bottle of Scotch is on its way, Dutchy!

:thumbsup: In time for Dutchy to toast to the launch of my book in September, the exact date of which is awaiting the confirmation of the distinguished Guest of Honor.
Now very busy with the planning and a thousand & one details. My VVIP & VIP guest list will be quite impressive (where a mundane book launch is concerned)....if it tracks to plan. :smile:


Sure will, are you going to send me an autographed copy?
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Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:12 pm

The planned trip to Latvia never went ahead, I'm afraid. I'm off to FInland on Saturday, but not driving through Holland!

In answer to Kiwirob, there are three branches of the Rothschild family: the British branch,who are nice and tend to have steam trains in the garden, the French Rothschilds, who are not so nice but maintain a good cellar and the German Rothschilds, who are an absolute shower, I'm afraid. The German branch has long been associated with German intelligence.
 
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Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:58 pm

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The planned trip to Latvia never went ahead, I'm afraid. I'm off to FInland on Saturday, but not driving through Holland!


Too bad :D
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Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:57 am

Dutchy wrote:
neutrino wrote:
Spyhunter wrote:
Your bottle of Scotch is on its way, Dutchy!

:thumbsup: In time for Dutchy to toast to the launch of my book in September, the exact date of which is awaiting the confirmation of the distinguished Guest of Honor.
Now very busy with the planning and a thousand & one details. My VVIP & VIP guest list will be quite impressive (where a mundane book launch is concerned)....if it tracks to plan. :smile:


Sure will, are you going to send me an autographed copy?

Ok, since you are the first to ask, but only if you promise in advance that you won't be bored by my sometimes non-sensible scribbling and TRY to read all 90,000 words.
You will have to take care of the freight or courier costs yourself though. It's about 28 x 28 x 2cm and 1.3kg.
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Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:19 am

neutrino wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
neutrino wrote:
:thumbsup: In time for Dutchy to toast to the launch of my book in September, the exact date of which is awaiting the confirmation of the distinguished Guest of Honor.
Now very busy with the planning and a thousand & one details. My VVIP & VIP guest list will be quite impressive (where a mundane book launch is concerned)....if it tracks to plan. :smile:


Sure will, are you going to send me an autographed copy?

Ok, since you are the first to ask, but only if you promise in advance that you won't be bored by my sometimes non-sensible scribbling and TRY to read all 90,000 words.
You will have to take care of the freight or courier costs yourself though. It's about 28 x 28 x 2cm and 1.3kg.


Send you a PM :D
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Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:24 am

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Different DVD, BlueberryWheats! Since the DVD were established in 1943 they clearly had nothing to do with the Amelia shoot-down.


The DVD has access to a time machine. This was later adapted into a novel ( Vatikan/SJ swapped in for the DVD to not become a "target"
by the author who also cloaked his name. )
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Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:51 pm

Let's keep our feet on the ground Wlederling! It's difficult enough as it is discussing intelligence topics!

Time machines are not possible. The historic record rules out any possibility of interference with the timeline, so travelling backwards in time can safely be ruled out, even if the possibility permits entertaining TV and movie scripts. If you want to travel back in time you have to watch the Dave channel, or look at old photos, or go visit a museum.

Travelling forwards in time raises fewer theoretical obstacles and since we do not know the future we have no evidence, either way. I would rule it out as well however, since future time has yet to happen. I do not see how you can travel to a destination which does not yet exist - it would like trying to catch a flight to Idlewild in 1948.

The German agent Einstein managed to steer physics in the wrong direction with his space/time continuum nonsense, in which he cannot possibly have believed. Space and Time are two different concepts.
 
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Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:46 am

Spyhunter wrote:
The planned trip to Latvia never went ahead, I'm afraid. I'm off to FInland on Saturday, but not driving through Holland!

In answer to Kiwirob, there are three branches of the Rothschild family: the British branch,who are nice and tend to have steam trains in the garden, the French Rothschilds, who are not so nice but maintain a good cellar and the German Rothschilds, who are an absolute shower, I'm afraid. The German branch has long been associated with German intelligence.

The British Rothschilds stole from Germany its highest form of intelligence, represented by Ernst Mayr.

Then we Americans, in typical capitalist fashion, stole Dr. Mayr and much of the Rothschild's collections at bankruptcy prices. They now reside at the American Museum of Narural History (New York) and at Harvard, where Mayr was director of the Museum of Comparative Zoology.

Sorry if this is seen as a bit off-topic.
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Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:37 am

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The historic record rules out any possibility of interference with the timeline


But if our timeline has been altered so would our historic records & understanding of our history. Without temporal shielding protecting us from changes in the timeline we would never know.

I think Wiederling is on to some something. It certainly explains how the DVD has been able to stay hidden for so long. Any discovery can be fixed by going back in time to prevent it !

The potential is mind boggling. We can all be manipulated & steered by the DVD without ever knowing it !!
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Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:53 pm

governments and intel agencies are manipulated by the DVD,but not time!

Historic records would only change AFTER history had been altered. Records written before the alteration would not be affected. This if the French went back in time today to reverse the result of Trafalgar records already published would not be affected, only accounts written after today.
 
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Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:22 pm

I respectfully disagree, a change at a point in our timeline affects everything that has happend after that specific point.

If the outcome of Trafalgar would be altered into a loss for Nelson & his fleet no one would subsequently have been able to record it as a victory for us to read about today. To us the victory would simply have never happened. And as such we would never be the wiser that it may have been any different then we now think we know.

We certainly should not put it past the DVD to also manipulate time & history as we have known it ! We can not underestimate them again.
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Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:38 pm

Ah, this is the conundrum! If 1805 were altered next week does the alteration happen back in 1805 or in 2017? I say 2017 - 212 years of human history can't be wiped out by a machine. You can travel through space, but you can't travel through time.
 
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You can travel through space, but you can't travel through time.

Have you studied airline schedules?
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Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:00 am

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Ah, this is the conundrum! If 1805 were altered next week does the alteration happen back in 1805 or in 2017? I say 2017 - 212 years of human history can't be wiped out by a machine. You can travel through space, but you can't travel through time.


I beg to differ. Surely you're familiar with the work Zurück in die Zukunft which postulates that history will be changed and the only one who will realize the change is the person that caused it?
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Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:53 pm

Obviously DVD agents will go from 2017 back to 1805, prevent Nelson from getting to his ship & then return to 2017. After this, to us in 2017, Nelson would have at best been recorded in history as the officer that was supposed to be there but was not. No conundrum, merely cause & effect like ripples in a pond.

Unless you are a double agent trying to steer us away from finding out the DVD really has this technologically ?
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Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:56 pm

Not Lt-General Bob Patterson USAF ret'd by any chance? If so, hi Bob!

It's partly because Germany lost WW1 and WW2 that we know they have not got time-travel technology! The whole concept seems to me to belong to science-fiction. I know it makes for great scripts, as in Star Trek IV, but it is impossible, in my opinion.

The scientific basis - the so-called space-time continuum - rests on the published work of a German spy, Albert Einstein, who has been discredited over the speed of light being a limiting velocity, albeit not officially. Einstein, like almost all German agents, acted in bad faith. Nothing he said should be accepted unless other scientists have verified it.

The conundrum is whether a change to history takes place in the historic time-line or the real time-line. I maintain that an attempt to change the outcome of the Battle of Trafalgar next week by going back in time to 1805 would happen next week, not in 1805. 1805 happened 212 years ago. Nothing which happened in 1805 can now be altered. Time is immutable and a wholly different concept from space.

When we travel faster than light we will get where we are going very quickly, but time will not slow down. An interstellar craft travelling 10 light years at 10C will arrive at its destination one year after departure, a bit like some United Airlines flights (one year after departure, that is!).
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