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Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:49 pm

Well I seem to have convinced some one in the French BEA!

Merry Christmas to one and all.
 
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Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:48 pm

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Well I seem to have convinced some one in the French BEA!

Merry Christmas to one and all.


Mary Christmas, and well done, loking forward to read it in an official document form the BEA.........
Many happy landings, greetings from The Netherlands!
 
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Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:00 pm

Surprised JT610 hasn't been added to Spyhunter's radar.
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:10 pm

Happy New Year everyone!

JT610 has indeed been on my radar. Sounds like a pitot tube issue, BUT, if it was pitots, what caused them to fail? There's more than one on a 737 Max!

As always I have an open mind (this is NOT an invitation to 777Jet to make a sarcastic comment!!) and I would welcome people's views.

It's important to connect dots - Indonesia has been under pressure, therefore sabotage cannot be ruled out. Pilot error seems improbable - it seems like the crew were following their instruments.

This is where things get a bit controversial in the airliner community. Pilots are trained to trust their instruments. I had a little bit of blind flying training (we don't have to say 'persons with visual difficulties flying training' do we?) and that's how I was taught by my QFIs. The advice is usually correct. We all know how easy it is to become disorientated in cloud or at night.

The problem is that following your training blindly, no pun intended, can get you and your passengers killed. Instrument failure is not unknown, as in that crash at Basel (a DC-9, wasn't it?). More to the point current training makes the saboteur's job easier. All you have to do is sabotage the instruments and you get the plane.

I worked, informally, on the Smolensk Air Disaster, a classic case of pressure instrument sabotage, in that case via the Air Data Computer, using the same method used by GO2 at Staines (Papa India).

Until we get the DVD and its client agencies like GO2 sorted, and take sabotage off the table, my recommendation is that pilots should be trained in counter-sabotage techniques. Specifically pilots should be taught to use their judgment and reject what their instruments are telling them in a proper case,using back-up instruments where necessary. Radar altimeters are a classic example - use of the their radar altimeter would have saved the UN Air Command pilots at Ndola. (There's nothing in the latest conspiracy theory by the way - the Belgian pilot in question was nowhere near Ndola that night.)

Pilots typically lack intelligence expertise, just as intelligence analysts typically lack aviation expertise. The answer is a multi-disciplinary approach, recognising that each community has a common aim p the safety of air navigation.

Anybody who thinks that I don't care about aviation safety doesn't know me, or my father for that matter (he was an air traffic controller at Eagle Farm and Garbutt in the 60s and 70s). Aviation is in my blood.
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:31 pm

Sigh... how to put this delicately?

Go away and join a conspiracy theory forum.
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:16 pm

Spyhunter wrote:
JT610 has indeed been on my radar.


My comment was meant to be sarcastic, but you go ahead and do you. Oh look you did.


Sounds like a pitot tube issue, BUT, if it was pitots, what caused them to fail? There's more than one on a 737 Max!


Wrong. Angle of Airflow (AOA) sensors, not Pitot tubes. (Despite them having flushed the Pitot system in their maintenance actions)

As always I have an open mind (this is NOT an invitation to 777Jet to make a sarcastic comment!!) and I would welcome people's views.
I guess I won't make a sarcastic comment either then..

It's important to connect dots - Indonesia has been under pressure, therefore sabotage cannot be ruled out. Pilot error seems improbable - it seems like the crew were following their instruments.


In this assertion you have far more supporters in this forum than you probably have in the past (just go look at the post in the other forum and all the tin foil hat comments). Despite it being completely unsubstantiated.. Though, open mind right?

This is where things get a bit controversial in the airliner community...


The rest is just gibberish. Pilots are trained to fly the plane, they don't need to know to look for sabotage, they need to know how to fly. If the airplane isn't behaving the way it is supposed to, as was the case in JT610, then they are supposed to know how to disable all automatic inputs and fly manually. It appears they failed to do that. Fortunately we have the CVR so we will know for certain in due time.

And with that, I say good day sir. (In Fez's voice)
 
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Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:30 am

Will everyone please stop feeding the troll and maybe he'll go away for good.
 
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Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:48 am

salttee wrote:
Will everyone please stop feeding the troll and maybe he'll go away for good.


He just keeps reviving his own thread, hoping for attention.

I think he loves the attention... unjustified as it is...

:roll:
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Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:21 am

Guys, be nice.
The (international) New Year is just over, and the Lunar New Year is looming round the corner.
Wishing everybody happy and safe flights.
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Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:43 am

salttee wrote:
Will everyone please stop feeding the troll and maybe he'll go away for good.



If you don't like to read about his theories, there is one simple solution: don't read them. Nobody is forcing your hand to read this thread 8-)
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Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:53 pm

Dutchy wrote:
salttee wrote:
Will everyone please stop feeding the troll and maybe he'll go away for good.



If you don't like to read about his theories, there is one simple solution: don't read them. Nobody is forcing your hand to read this thread 8-)

They are not theories Dutchy, they are bullshit. That's what you seem to like to wallow in; you always grope for the meaningless, no matter the topic. Nothing could be more meaningless on the subject of MH-370 than the drivel in this thread. So, I'm not surprised that you eat it up.
 
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Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:56 pm

salttee wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
salttee wrote:
Will everyone please stop feeding the troll and maybe he'll go away for good.



If you don't like to read about his theories, there is one simple solution: don't read them. Nobody is forcing your hand to read this thread 8-)

They are not theories Dutchy, they are bullshit. That's what you seem to like to wallow in; you always grope for the meaningless, no matter the topic. Nothing could be more meaningless on the subject of MH-370 than the drivel in this thread. So, I'm not surprised that you eat it up.


Ah so you result in insulting me.
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Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:10 pm

Dutchy wrote:
salttee wrote:
Dutchy wrote:


If you don't like to read about his theories, there is one simple solution: don't read them. Nobody is forcing your hand to read this thread 8-)

They are not theories Dutchy, they are bullshit. That's what you seem to like to wallow in; you always grope for the meaningless, no matter the topic. Nothing could be more meaningless on the subject of MH-370 than the drivel in this thread. So, I'm not surprised that you eat it up.


Ah so you result in insulting me.
Does the truth hurt? Spyhunter is an author of pulp fiction; he tests his crap here. You mistake what he writes for honest theories, just as you mistake the propaganda Russian trolls write for honest opinion.

If you don't like what I write there is one simple solution: don't read it.
 
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Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:16 pm

salttee wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
salttee wrote:
They are not theories Dutchy, they are bullshit. That's what you seem to like to wallow in; you always grope for the meaningless, no matter the topic. Nothing could be more meaningless on the subject of MH-370 than the drivel in this thread. So, I'm not surprised that you eat it up.


Ah so you result in insulting me.
Does the truth hurt? Spyhunter is an author of pulp fiction; he tests his crap here. You mistake what he writes for honest theories, just as you mistake the propaganda Russian trolls write for honest opinion.

If you don't like what I write there is one simple solution: don't read it.


Haha, The truth doesn't hurt, it never does. Uneducated guesses/snap judgments about some other persons might lead to disaster. ;)

Hint: If you truly read this thread you would know what I think about Spyhunter's theories, they are great entertainment :spin:
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Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:22 pm

I don't read this thread. The first few posts a few years ago was plenty. I generally don't read your posts either.
 
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Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:17 pm

alfa164 wrote:
salttee wrote:
Will everyone please stop feeding the troll and maybe he'll go away for good.


He just keeps reviving his own thread, hoping for attention.

I think he loves the attention... unjustified as it is...

:roll:


Speaking of attention, how did his attempt at clearing the child-pornography case go? Obviously he didn't achieve anything, because all the articles are still there without redactions.

BTW, doesn't the site have a policy on people convicted for child pornography?
 
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Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:27 pm

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I don't read this thread. The first few posts a few years ago was plenty. I generally don't read your posts either.

Well, if you had read some of the posts then you would have seen that Dutchy is one of the more vocal posters against Spyhunter.

But why let easily verifiable facts get in the way of a good grudge heh?

Your post does sum up your problem. You assume someone is wrong, and that's where it ends. Try looking up some facts for a change.
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Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:11 pm

petertenthije wrote:
salttee wrote:
I don't read this thread. The first few posts a few years ago was plenty. I generally don't read your posts either.

Well, if you had read some of the posts then you would have seen that Dutchy is one of the more vocal posters against Spyhunter.

But why let easily verifiable facts get in the way of a good grudge heh?

Your post does sum up your problem. You assume someone is wrong, and that's where it ends. Try looking up some facts for a change.

My initial post in this string stated that if we ignored the troll he might go away. Arguing with a troll is usually referred to as "feeding" the troll. It gives the troll attention and allows him a platform to re-state the message he or she is trying to sell.

This troll is exploiting the people who argue against him, just as this troll is exploiting a tragedy where 239 people died and just as he exploits this forum where people come to converse about their real interests and views. This exploitation offends me whenever it comes into my view, therefore I lobby against it in the only reasonable and potentially effective way I know: asking people to refrain from feeding the troll.
 
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Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:26 pm

In answer to Blueberry Wheats I don't do conspiracy theories! I'm an intelligence analyst, not a conspiracy theorist, indeed I debunk a number of conspiracy theories in my book, including the one about the Ndola DC-6B crash, which has just had a recent airing.

No one has come up with an answer to the late Captain Jan Bartelski's analysis of the failings of UN Air Command and the lack of airmanship, with respect, of the crew. Conspiracy theorists tend to maintain a fixed view in defiance of the facts, rather like those pushing the SIO theory in relation to MH370. The Katangan Fouga Magisters lacked both the range to reach Ndola and an AI radar for night interception, so could not have shot down the DC-6 at night. Suggesting possible names for the pilots doesn't deal with these facts.

Dealing with trpmb6's points, he/she may well be right re the AOA indicators, although AOA's are typically fed through an air data computer, introducing a vulnerability.

With respect he/she elides manual and instrument flying. You can fly a plane manually in IFR conditions, just as you can fly a plane on autopilot in VFR conditions. My point is that existing pilot training makes airliners vulnerable to sabotage, because pilots are too trusting of their instruments and are following them right into terrain. Of course this is controversial and goes against current thinking - my point is that current thinking is dangerously wrong.

Ad hominem attacks are the weakest form of argument, alfa 164.

I've never concealed my summary conviction in England in 2014 for making indecent images of children in New Zealand in 2011, for which I received a three year supervision order, which expired in 2017. The conviction has been referred to the Home Secretary by my solicitors, with a view to a Royal Pardon, and to the Criminal Cases Review Commission, with a view to referring the conviction to the Crown Court.

In order to obtain the conviction it was necessary to conceal material information from the court. In particular the prosecution concealed the serial number of my laptop hard drive and the country of manufacture of the memory stick on which the images were found. They were joined in this deception by SanDisk and Dell Inc, but SanDIsk have backed away since they were taken over by Western Digital Corporation and Dell have backed away since the election of Donald Trump.

I was denied the right to cross-examine both the Dell and SanDisk witnesses by the trial and appeal courts, with respect, at the insistence of the Crown Prosecution Service, who refused to call the witnesses, going back on an assurance given by prosecuting counsel at the appeal hearing, presided over by HH Judge Karen Holt, who herself was later indicted and acquitted for computer misuse.

The prosecution has effectively collapsed. The rozzers have been caught out by a code on the outside of the memory stick, which turns out to have been manufactured after I am supposed to have acquired it! Moreover SanDisk have now admitted that a second code, the significance of which was concealed from the trial and appeal courts, would have given the country of manufacture.

Neither the memory stick nor laptop used to convict me had my fingerprints and DNA on it. Thames Valley Police were so concerned about the negative fingerprint and DNA results that they chose to conceal them from the CPS, myself and the court, which was of course serious police misconduct. (I only found out about the negative tests because the rozzers told MI5).

Dell and the CPS concealed the existence of Dell's service website, which had data about my laptop's hard drive on it. The website was tampered with, apparently at the request of the Obama Administration, who later ordered the FBI to stop an inquiry into a prosecution lie about the FBI at my bomb hoax trial. (The FBI backed down and agreed to suspend their investigation.) It now transpires that the hard drive used to convict me was an aftermarket item, probably sold after the original was seized. Its warranty expiry date was 18 months after my laptop's warranty expired.

There is no answer to these points, which have been made in a series of expert's reports by a forensic scientist. Neither the CPS nor the Bar Standards Board has served an expert's report in reply.

The timing of the allegation is also instructive. The police claim to have seen the images on first examination but they kept quiet about them for 8 months - that doesn't happen in genuine cases. The allegation was only raised after the security minister at the Foreign Office confirmed to the media that there HAD been a nuclear threat to the London Olympics. It was prosecuted very nervously - I wasn't arrested, offered a caution (which I rejected, since they weren't my images) and the police computer technician conceded that she could not date the images, i.e. she accepted that they could have been placed on the memory stick after the police raided my home. She also conceded that I could not have known that they were on my memory stick, since they could only be seen with specialist software not on sale to the general public.

The images allegation is and always was junk, with every respect to Thames Valley Police and the CPS. The conviction was achieved through gross deception of the court and the fabrication of material evidence. TVP's evidence exhibits handling procedures were a disgrace, The hard drive apparently wasn't even bagged, as a result of which there is no chain of evidence.

There are also constitutional issues - the police raided my home and barrister's chambers without a warrant. An unreported Divisional Court ruling against the CPS that a solicitor's office could not be raided without a warrant was suppressed from both myself and the court, which amounted with respect to gross prosecutorial misconduct.

If you want to bash my character you're probably better off trying something else!
 
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Before anyone even asks how I could have been tried in England for an offence said to have been committed in its entirety in New Zealand, the answer is that the English courts lacked jurisdiction. The arrogance of the CPS with respect knew no bounds. The prosecution was a wilful interference with the sovereignty of New Zealand and amounted to a violation by the United Kingdom of both international law and the Statute of Westminster.

The New Zealand Crown Law Officers were made aware by me of the prosecution. The New Zealand authorities, very sensibly with respect, wanted nothing to do with the case. New Zealand Police didn't even commence an investigation, no doubt aware that the memory stick with the images on never went anywhere near New Zealand. NZP would of course have been familiar with NZ quarantine regulations, which made a nonsense of the prosecution case, since they undermined the timeline.

The legal reasoning with respect of District Judge Vickers and Judge Holt by which they assumed jurisdiction over New Zealand is so weak it scarcely deserves to be called reasoning. In particular it ignored 175 years of binding authority to the effect that general words in an act of Parliament will not suffice to justify a breach of international law. DJ Vickers retired early, not long after the case, and rightly so with respect. Mr Justice Blake, who refused a judicial review, also retired early, as indeed did the judge in the bomb hoax trial, HH Judge McCreath.
 
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Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:39 am

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In answer to Blueberry Wheats I don't do conspiracy theories! I'm an intelligence analyst, not a conspiracy theorist, indeed I debunk a number of conspiracy theories in my book, including the one about the Ndola DC-6B crash,

Self proclaimed intelligence analyst, convicted hoaxer, disgraced professional and grandiose, highfalutin fantasist.

Conspiracy theorists tend to maintain a fixed view in defiance of the facts, rather like those pushing the SIO theory in relation to MH370.

Sounds rather like your self publicised views on the matter and all the rest of the vile, deluded, self proclaimed 'expert opinion' you churn out.

I've never concealed my summary conviction in England in 2014 for making indecent images of children in New Zealand in 2011, for which I received a three year supervision order, which expired in 2017. The conviction has been referred to the Home Secretary by my solicitors, with a view to a Royal Pardon, and to the Criminal Cases Review Commission, with a view to referring the conviction to the Crown Court.

Fantasyland, your appeal was outright unsuccessful. You seem to have forgotten to mention the five year Sexual Offences Prevention Order that was also handed down (that's still in effect isn't it?) and having to sign the Violent and Sex Offenders Register.


the rest of it

I refer you back to the first reply of the post.
 
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Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:16 pm

SOPO expires in the next few weeks, ChrisKen! You haven't engaged with my points - a conviction based on fabricated evidence is worthless, or are you saying that it is appropriate for the police to manufacture evidence, conceal evidence damaging to their case and mislead the court? Where do you live? North Korea? Sounds like you favour North Korean standards in the criminal justice system!

In the meantime I continue to practise law, albeit only as a consultant, and challenge my disbarment. In fact I've been advising an airline pilot this week! No names, no pack drill, of course.

You might be interested to know, 'ChrisKen' that I have taught intelligence studies, at master's level. Generally speaking the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, the Pentagon and the NSA don't let fantasists through their doors. How many times have you been invited in to the Pentagon to discuss intelligence matters?

Again I make the point that some posters seem more interested in abuse and ad hominem attacks, rather than dealing forensically with my arguments. Very frankly, those who have pushed the SIO theory vociferously (in fairness, some, like Dutchy, have adopted the theory in good faith and dealt rationally with the arguments against it) are starting to look silly. MH370 never went anywhere the SIO and that is why extensive sonar searches, including using military sonar, have failed to find the wreckage.

The capabilities of modern side-scan sonar were on display only this week, with the location of the wreckage of the Piper Malibu carrying an Argentine footballer on his way to Rhoose from Nantes. Ironically it was found by David Mearns, who rather rudely rejected my warning that shareholder funds were at risk by searching the SIO for MH370 on a success only basis. Thankfully for the shareholders wiser heads prevailed!

However, I don't take things personally. I don't like David, with respect, but I don't doubt his competence in his chosen field and will always give credit where it's due. His search for the PA-46-310P was professionally conducted and produced quick results, bringing some closure for the families.

I am sorry to say that I cannot say the same for the AAIB's investigation. It's almost as if they didn't want to find the plane. Having found it they evidently have some nervousness as to what they might find. There is no reason at all why the wreckage could not be recovered. The fuselage is largely intact and I gather lies in not much more than 15 fathoms of water. Every accident investigator knows the importance of examining the wreckage, in fact it's usually the starting point. Photos, not least underwater photos, are no substitute.

What are the AAIB worried about? I'm unimpressed by the theories being pushed in the media, such as engine failure. How would engine failure prevent a Mayday call? The Malibu has a battery, like all modern aircraft. I'm sure they didn't swing the prop to start her at Nantes! Then there's the missing pilot. What happened to the poor chap? So far we know he wasn't wearing a parachute - seeing the pilot wearing a parachute tends to put punters off! The cabin windows appear to be intact, so it's unlikely the pilot fell out of the aircraft. In any event we have no body, and there was an extensive search, professionally and properly conducted by Guernsey Police, when the plane was reported missing.

Too early to call this one!
 
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Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:44 pm

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Conspiracy theorists tend to maintain a fixed view in defiance of the facts, rather like those pushing the SIO theory in relation to MH370.


Remind me again of the facts behind your South China Sea theory. I don't recall specific evidence being presented, only your theories.

Spyhunter wrote:
The capabilities of modern side-scan sonar were on display only this week, with the location of the wreckage of the Piper Malibu carrying an Argentine footballer on his way to Rhoose from Nantes.

They also had a very good idea of where to look - it was found within a half mile of its last know location, at a depth of about 220 feet. Much different than the circumstances faced in the MH370 search.

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I am sorry to say that I cannot say the same for the AAIB's investigation. It's almost as if they didn't want to find the plane. Having found it they evidently have some nervousness as to what they might find. There is no reason at all why the wreckage could not be recovered. The fuselage is largely intact and I gather lies in not much more than 15 fathoms of water. Every accident investigator knows the importance of examining the wreckage, in fact it's usually the starting point. Photos, not least underwater photos, are no substitute.

They did recover Sala's remains, but poor weather in the area caused them to stop further recovery efforts at this time. That's not to say they won't continue when weather improves.

Spyhunter wrote:
What are the AAIB worried about? I'm unimpressed by the theories being pushed in the media, such as engine failure. How would engine failure prevent a Mayday call? The Malibu has a battery, like all modern aircraft. I'm sure they didn't swing the prop to start her at Nantes! Then there's the missing pilot. What happened to the poor chap? So far we know he wasn't wearing a parachute - seeing the pilot wearing a parachute tends to put punters off! The cabin windows appear to be intact, so it's unlikely the pilot fell out of the aircraft. In any event we have no body, and there was an extensive search, professionally and properly conducted by Guernsey Police, when the plane was reported missing.


From the one published photo I've seen, it looks as if the rear passenger door on the port side of the fuselage is open/missing - you can see it just ahead of the N-number on the fuselage, in fact, the "N" part of the number is missing due to the opening. I haven't seen other photos, so there is no telling if there are other openings in the the fuselage where the pilot's body may have exited during the crash or subsequent sinking of the airframe. Until the aircraft is recovered and examined, you can't tell what caused the crash. It may have had an engine failure, and the pilot got focused on dealing with that, lost control and went down before making a Mayday call - remember, it's "Aviate, Navigate, Communicate" so letting someone know he has a problem is not high on the list of things to do.
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Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:41 am

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SOPO expires in the next few weeks, ChrisKen! You haven't engaged with my points - a conviction based on fabricated evidence is worthless, or are you saying that it is appropriate for the police to manufacture evidence, conceal evidence damaging to their case and mislead the court? Where do you live? North Korea? Sounds like you favour North Korean standards in the criminal justice system!

Why must I engage your points regarding your appeal? I have no way to verify their validity, nor do I self proclaim grandiose expertise to pontificate on the matter. You have presumably presented these points and the evidence to support them or at least provide reasonable doubt, to/in a court of law during the appeals process. That court declined your appeal and upheld the conviction.

Stating you're attempting to obtain a Royal Pardon all sounds rather grand (a well established theme) but you, I and the dog next door all know it doesn't actually overturn the conviction and the probability of you actually obtaining one is politely put, extremely low.

Thanks for confirming the Sexual Offences Prevention Order was also handed down as part of sentence pertaining to your conviction and that is still in effect today. Nothing regarding your VISO register status though. Although to be fair, I only specifically asked about the SOPO.
As for the rest, neither asked for nor relevant to the question asked, the first sentence was sufficient.



You might be interested to know, 'ChrisKen' that I have taught intelligence studies, at master's level. Generally speaking the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, the Pentagon and the NSA don't let fantasists through their doors. How many times have you been invited in to the Pentagon to discuss intelligence matters?

Bully for you old chap! Any evidence of this other than your own self published claims or grandiose beliefs?
The security clearances I currently hold or have held previously are quite frankly none of your business. I've no desire nor need to engage in a colloquial 'pissing contest' with you, and I will certainly not kowtow to the poor attempts at belittling or intimidation you often employ when responding (against the forum's rules I believe).
Having seen many who get to go through those doors, you may wish to revise that statement.


Again I make the point that some posters seem more interested in abuse and ad hominem attacks, rather than dealing forensically with my arguments.

Maybe some are, maybe some aren't, you aren't averse to using such tactics yourself. In the case of the original post made above, I can assure you I wasn't interested in or attempting either. I merely queried some of your response to others regarding certain factual events surrounding your conviction and adjusted others to reflect their self proclaimed status rather than the grandiose, highfalutin fantasy version. Perhaps that last bit was approaching something naughty (forum wise) when taken in isolation, but one read of your many 'articles' or posts should quickly reveal it's not an unreasonable conclusion to arrive at. They were also your own words in court.

For the latter part of the quote: Again I will state that I have very little interest in engaging with your arguments, and I have made it quite clear as to why. Namely my opinion of you and your conspiracy theories, which you do nothing to sway. In fact the more long winded guff filled posts you make, especially like those above, the more you reinforce those opinions.
Why on earth are you yakking on about the SIO, Sonars, a Piper Malibu and the AAIB being involved in some sort of ludicrous cover up? It was neither asked for nor in the slightest bit relevant to our brief interaction. We can all take a guess though, as you relish any opportunity to shoehorn in your outlandish claims or raise your so-called notoriety.

Very frankly, those who have pushed the SIO theory vociferously (in fairness, some, like Dutchy, have adopted the theory in good faith and dealt rationally with the arguments against it) are starting to look silly. MH370 never went anywhere the SIO and that is why extensive sonar searches, including using military sonar, have failed to find the wreckage.

Again, neither asked for, nor relevant to the interaction. However, just for fun I will indulge you on some of the points in your latest reply.
You consistently over-estimate the capabilities of today's technology, especially when it's being operating at (and very much beyond) it's limits. You also seem to forget 'semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit' when presenting your fantasies/conspiracy theories/expert opinion, call them what you will. Quasi scientific terms, grand claims, statements contrary to established facts, moving of goalposts and falsehoods all sound pretty grand, and may stroke your ego but they don't prove a sausage.

The capabilities of modern side-scan sonar were on display only this week, with the location of the wreckage of the Piper Malibu carrying an Argentine footballer on his way to Rhoose from Nantes. Ironically it was found by David Mearns, who rather rudely rejected my warning that shareholder funds were at risk by searching the SIO for MH370 on a success only basis.

Again, neither asked for or relevant.

Indulgence: Yes a side scan sonar can give reasonably decent definition in the 67 metres of water and flat bottomed seabed that the Malibu was found. It also helps the area's wrecks are comparatively well mapped. However, you yet again severely over-estimate it's capabilities if you think the same definition can be returned in the abyssal waters 4,500 metres down. You'll also note, the probable area being searched was a mere 4 square miles and the aircraft was whooping 0.6 miles from it's last known position.
AF447's wreckage was eventually found after many searches, with a relatively small probable area of 80-250 sq miles, at the extremes of the equipment's physical limits (3,980 metres), a whole two years after the crash. The aircraft was found within 30 miles of it's last known position, in a resting spot that had been 'searched' many times over using many different techniques before it was actually found there.
MH370's rather large probable area (25,000 sq miles) in the SIO utterly dwarfs that of AF447's and is at least 600 metres deeper. It's last known position at 02:22MYC is 6 hours stale as the aircraft has been confirmed to still be in flight at 08:10MYC. It sent it's final piece of data at 08:19MYC. There's still another 50 odd minutes before the 09:15 handshake after that, where it's airborne status is unknown. If it's ever found it is highly likely to be over 2,000 miles from it's last known position. A needle in a haystack is very much an understatement, even with technology at the forefront of today's capabilities.

It's not a case of dragging a fish through the water (autonomous or otherwise) and a lovely image of an aircraft magically appearing that it's often thought to be by the layman. It's slow, tedious, drawn out and often downright difficult to interpret the resulting images (even if it's still largely intact).


I am sorry to say that I cannot say the same for the AAIB's investigation. It's almost as if they didn't want to find the plane.

Of course they wanted to find the plane. Unfortunately, there's these annoying things called budgets, resources and how best to use them to contend with along with established procedure.. While it'd be lovely to solve every mystery, in the real world you have to stack the benefits up against the cost, resources and effort required. A reasonable search was made, focused quite correctly on survivability and then reasonably beyond for wreckage/bodies for probable cause. The investigation can continue using all the other methods, techniques and data available. While the aircraft is nice to have, it's not the be and end all of an investigation.

There is no reason at all why the wreckage could not be recovered.

Those professionals and experts in the respective fields of operation that are actually on the scene and armed with all the details would seemingly disagree somewhat.
There's good reasons why it hasn't been recovered thus far. The initial attempt to physically recover the wreck failed due strong currents around the site & the surface weather. The weather then beat them back to port. If you hadn't noticed it's been pretty grim and is forecast to continue being so.

The fuselage is largely intact and I gather lies in not much more than 15 fathoms of water.

You'll find it's in well over double your '15 fathoms of water'. 67 metres, or 220 ft if you prefer, is 36.6 fathoms. Your frequent disregard, confusion or liberal bending of established facts to suit is concerning.

Every accident investigator knows the importance of examining the wreckage, in fact it's usually the starting point. Photos, not least underwater photos, are no substitute.

Yes it's often the starting point, when they have it. Guess what? They do. The wreck has been photographed and recorded in effective detail, enough detail for the AAIB to postpone recovering the wreck for the time being (not that they can do so due to the extremely poor weather and sea conditions currently found in the channel). By definition that makes the photos a substitute. If they feel the need to recover it later on in the investigation, they can do so. More importantly do so in better weather conditions.

Congratulations, you've under estimated technology for a change. The quality of under water high definition photographs and video available these days is nifty so these images of the wreck do indeed make a very reasonable substitute while it can't be recovered.
It's strange how you flip flop between advanced modern technologies being unsuitable (close up high resolution photograph & video is poor) or the best thing since sliced bread (grainy deep sea side sonar smudges) depending on which reinforces your frankly bizarre claims.

Having found it they evidently have some nervousness as to what they might find.

Why would they be worried about conducting their investigation? Why would you assume they are nervous based on the current verifiable facts available, other than fantastical conspiracy theories of your own making?

What are the AAIB worried about?

Not a great deal as the AAIB being worried would appear to be entirely in your own conspiracist's fantasy.

I'm unimpressed by the theories being pushed in the media, such as engine failure. How would engine failure prevent a Mayday call? The Malibu has a battery, like all modern aircraft. I'm sure they didn't swing the prop to start her at Nantes!

AVIATE, NAVIGATE, COMMUNICATE for starters. It's very much near the bottom of a list pilot's priorities.
There's a whole plethora of reasons a mayday call wasn't radioed if it was an engine failure or indeed any other failure. Moreso when operating single pilot.
To completely write off engine failure due to a lack of a mayday radio call and the aircraft possessing a battery is amateur in the extreme. To throw in a conspiracy theory on top of it is simply fantastical nonsense.

Then there's the missing pilot. What happened to the poor chap? So far we know he wasn't wearing a parachute - seeing the pilot wearing a parachute tends to put punters off!

No one knows, that's why he's missing. Very droll regarding the parachute. He's likely to been have ejected from the aircraft, somehow managed to (fully/partially) self evacuate at some point during the proceedings or since the aircraft is at the bottom of the rough sea, on a site with strong currents, he's been removed via water action.

The cabin windows appear to be intact, so it's unlikely the pilot fell out of the aircraft.

And you've established this how?
One single image of the aircraft on the seabed has been released. You see the left side (damaged) rear section in which there's a partial view of an open rear door and the sole cabin window that should be visible is definitely no longer intact as it's been utterly mangled. The date stamp on that image and it's release date precede that of the ultimately successful attempts to recover Mr Sala's body.

In any event we have no body, and there was an extensive search, professionally and properly conducted by Guernsey Police, when the plane was reported missing.

Ever tried spotting something as small as a human on the sea's surface? It's hard enough to someone sporting a bright orange life jacket with their head and shoulders above it with arms waving frantically, leave alone a corpse at best, floating just below the surface in rough conditions. The body could conceivable be hundreds of miles out into the Atlantic by now. By the same token, it could be mere 50ft away from the wreck site.

I notice, this particular search has been 'extensively, professionally and properly conducted' while all the others have seemingly not been (according to you), would this be because it suits your agenda?

The mysterious missing body indeed! Is this soon to be dramatically revealed as having been stealthily rescue of a DVD agent, involving the DVD submarine that's carrying a warhead from the Kursk, which was previously planted at ground zero, and in London, whilst en-route to it's new target Tokyo, in a plot to detonate and bury the Olympic Stadium in Haribo as a homage to their previous attack on Aberfan? Ah but why 'off' Mr Sala? Of course Sala had to be removed, he'd stumbled upon this plot after consuming some of a Nigerian drug runner's tainted packet of dolly mixtures that were being used to keep Maddy sedated somewhere in a unknown Moroccan town. Absurd isn't it? Although it must be true because a DVD trained hamster left an encoded message in Jeremy Corbyn's copy of the little red book during the Wrekin Young Socialist party of 1967, which one of my high level contacts has recently decoded. I apologise as I digress. Of course no one in their right mind would believe any of this, would they?

Too early to call this one!

The first thing you've said reference the to this event with any merit.

Agreed, it's is too early. The press, armchair experts and conspiracy theorists can speculate all they want, the vast majority will expose themselves as foolish.
All the relevant parties investigating are armed with far better data, facts, figures, details and investigating tools. Let them get on with investigating without having to deal with the crackpots.

I know you'll disagree with this last bit.
They (AAIB & others involved) are there to investigate it, figure out the probable cause and then make recommendations to help avoid it being repeated, improving aviation safety throughout the industry. Strangely enough, they're not there to cover stuff up, involve themselves nefarious shenanigans or even attempt to make conspiracy theorist looks foolish. That last one they mange that all by themselves.


With that said; I'm really not interested in any further discussion with you regards any of your conspiracy theories. Feel free not to respond, I won't be offended, indeed not doing so would be the mark of a gentleman and garner you one small notch back up the ladder of respectability.

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Will everyone please stop feeding the troll and maybe he'll go away for good.


Honestly, I find his ramblings far more entertaining than all the Trump threads that fills the Non-Aviation forum!

If Trump wasn't president I'd agree with you, but he is - so relax, let Mike Shrimpton ramble all he wants!
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Re: MH370 & MH17: Spyhunter theories for his fans

Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:07 pm

Thank you the Flying Disk!

I do try and respond to posts, Chris Ken, but I don't bully or belitle, nor do I rush to conclusions. I commented on the Malibu crash as a fresh topic.

Staying with the Malibu, you speak as though I had never heard of "Aviate, Navigate, Communicate". I have actually flown aircraft, or were you not aware of that? I am NOT suggesting that a Mayday call would be the pilot's first priority. That would be avoiding a stall and stabilising the plane at the best possible glide speed, confirming and noting his position, followed by going through the inflight engine restart checklist. He would also no doubt need to reassure his passenger and make sure that he was strapped in tight. All of this would be instinctive for an experienced pilot.

A pilot in an emergency, which this was, also knows that he or she needs to get a Mayday call out asap, and squawk 7700 (surely a Malibu would have a transponder?) A Mayday call and 7700 squawk brings in ATC assistance, including a diversion vector. When over the sea, with a possible ditching, it allows accurate information to be relayed to Air Sea Rescue. Yes it's difficult to spot a body in the water, and yes I have spoken with wartime Coastal Command pilots about how difficult air sea rescues are. All the more important to get a Mayday call and 7700 squawk out. We don't even know if Sala could swim.

The plane was at its cruising altitude, and the Malibu is pressurised. It was not planning to refuel in the Channel Islands and there is no reason to suppose it had descended from its cruise altitude when the engine failed. It is a fair point to ask why the missing pilot failed to get a Mayday or 7700 out.

Re wreckage depth, I said "I gather" - I wasn't expressing a concluded view. I agree it was just over 36 fathoms. It's still not particularly deep.

An area of high pressure has moved into the Channel Islands in the last few days. The Met report looks pretty good to me, save for some early morning mist. I haven't heard anything about a search for the missing pilot or an attempt to recover the wreckage. I ask again, why the are AAIB dragging their heels, in what is a high-profile incident?

Where is the pilot's body? It should have drifted ashore by now. Usually a body lost at sea in littoral waters will drift onto shore after about 7 days. Bodies don't normally sink unless they're weighted down, something once pointed out to me by an MI6 wetwork specialist tasked with taking out an IRA gunrunner.

Since I am not alleging foul play in this case, the valuable maxim you quote has no application. It's of limited application in the law anyway, since the onus of proof is often reversed. It is in my Bar disciplinary proceedings, eg - I have to prove I was wrongly convicted.

Regular readers will know that contrary to ChrisKen's low opinion of me, I do in fact acknowledge good points. Moose takes just such a point re the door - it does appear to have been opened. I am not sure however that this doesn't deepen the mystery. We have an open door, a missing pilot and no body!

Fair points are also taken re the cabin windows. We can't see it all, but we can see suggests a controlled ditching. Of course we will know more when the wreckage is raised, but nobody seems to be in a rush to do that.

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