johns624 wrote:Last year, they announced a 10,000 ton nuclear powered destroyer, yet the largest naval ship they are currently building are <1000t corvettes because they don't even have the technology to build big gas turbines. That's what happens when you PO the Ukrainians.
Kiwirob wrote:Istand corrected (sort of). The 11356 are being built for the Indian Navy, not the Russian. They've only built one 22350 so far, as far as I can see. Still not much from a country that wants to be a world military power.Project 20380/85 covettes 2,000 tons
Project 11356 Frigates 3,600 tons
Project 22350 Frigates 4,500 tons
The marine gas turbine issue has been solved. Russian turbines are being used in the newer 11356 and 22350 vessels.
If you can build a turbine for a plane you can modify it for marine use. RR MT30 = RR Trent 800 or GE LM2500 = CF6.
johns624 wrote:BTW- How's the SU-57 and Armata tank coming along?
Kiwirob wrote:I'm seriously interested in your source. I don't see them listed on rusnavy.com or wiki (I know, not the best) and would like to keep abreast of naval matters.There are 6 11356’s being built for the Russian Navy, 3 are in service, 3 are under construction. The Indian ships are the Talwar Class, they have 6 in service, there was a deal signed for 4 more in 2016. Construction is to be split between Russia and India. There 2 22350’s launched and 4 more under construction.
Kiwirob wrote:There are 6 11356’s being built for the Russian Navy, 3 are in service, 3 are under construction. The Indian ships are the Talwar Class, they have 6 in service, there was a deal signed for 4 more in 2016. Construction is to be split between Russia and India. There 2 22350’s launched and 4 more under construction.
Kiwirob wrote:I don’t think the Indians are overly concerned about US sanctions, they just ordered 5 S400 systems and signed a contract for Iranian oil.
Aesma wrote:The shape of that thing doesn't scream high speed to me !
angad84 : looking into Kiwirob's claim I found Putin saying the new, not even operational yet, gas turbines Russia has developed in a couple of years to replace the Ukrainian ones are the best of the best, more powerful more fuel efficient etc.
Keep in mind Russia has not proven they can make competitive aircraft engines...
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