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B-1 Fleet Grounded

Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:39 pm

The B-1 Fleet has been grounded as the result of an ejection seat malfunction on 1 May. The aircraft involved made an emergency landing at Midland TX (MAF) after an ejection hatch blew. It is unknown if the ejection sequence had been initiated and the seat failed or just what happened. The grounding appears to be until the ejection seats, fleet-wide are corrected.

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Re: B-1 Fleet Grounded

Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:17 am

Word around MAF is a bird strike lead to an engine fire which spread rapidly to the nearby engine. With double engine failure and lots of fire damage, the commander gave ejection order. First sequence blew the hatch off but seat did not eject. At this point the crew decided to try and wrestle to the ground rather than proceed with ejection sequencing and leave their fellow crew to die. Note the ejection rocket was armed/live ... not exactly the best of situation for the airman strapped to it ... or the first responders. Supposedly there was concern it would fire off with touchdown forces/shaking.

Apparently there were known issues with these particular ejection rockets fleet wide. Seems this incident is the straw that broke that camel’s back finally (thankfully before more deaths and the skill and luck of this particular crew)

Last I heard was to expect write-off due to the level of damage.
 
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Re: B-1 Fleet Grounded

Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:42 am

Okcflyer wrote:
Note the ejection rocket was armed/live ... not exactly the best of situation for the airman strapped to it ... or the first responders. Supposedly there was concern it would fire off with touchdown forces/shaking.


Would be a huge surprise, but given that these are zero/zero seats they should be fine. But if they go off while you unstrap....

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Re: B-1 Fleet Grounded

Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:50 pm

So if this write off, any idea if they'll pull another from the boneyard to replace it? They pulled a BUFF out recently so I assume they will do the same with a Bone.
 
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Re: B-1 Fleet Grounded

Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:09 am

Okcflyer wrote:
Word around MAF is a bird strike lead to an engine fire which spread rapidly to the nearby engine. With double engine failure and lots of fire damage, the commander gave ejection order. First sequence blew the hatch off but seat did not eject. At this point the crew decided to try and wrestle to the ground rather than proceed with ejection sequencing and leave their fellow crew to die. Note the ejection rocket was armed/live ... not exactly the best of situation for the airman strapped to it ... or the first responders. Supposedly there was concern it would fire off with touchdown forces/shaking.

Apparently there were known issues with these particular ejection rockets fleet wide. Seems this incident is the straw that broke that camel’s back finally (thankfully before more deaths and the skill and luck of this particular crew)

Last I heard was to expect write-off due to the level of damage.


You clearly cannot be referencing the May 1 emergency landing...
 
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Re: B-1 Fleet Grounded

Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:29 am

checksixx wrote:
Okcflyer wrote:
Word around MAF is a bird strike lead to an engine fire which spread rapidly to the nearby engine. With double engine failure and lots of fire damage, the commander gave ejection order. First sequence blew the hatch off but seat did not eject. At this point the crew decided to try and wrestle to the ground rather than proceed with ejection sequencing and leave their fellow crew to die. Note the ejection rocket was armed/live ... not exactly the best of situation for the airman strapped to it ... or the first responders. Supposedly there was concern it would fire off with touchdown forces/shaking.

Apparently there were known issues with these particular ejection rockets fleet wide. Seems this incident is the straw that broke that camel’s back finally (thankfully before more deaths and the skill and luck of this particular crew)

Last I heard was to expect write-off due to the level of damage.


You clearly cannot be referencing the May 1 emergency landing...


Just repeating what I heard ... and I made it clear it didn’t come from a confirmed or official source.

FWIW: the offensive ordinance officer is the first to go in the manual eject sequence. The escape hatch above this position was missing on landing. Engine fire was confirmed by local media. Maybe someday we’ll know the fine details but the story I repeated was shared about 3 weeks ago with heavy focus on the ejection charge issue. I didn’t share the story until the news broke about the fleet being grounded which admittedly caught me a bit off guard given the conversation a couples weeks prior.

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