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Air Force 1 trip to Singapore flight plan

Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:28 pm

Obviously a 747-200 can't fly DC-Singapore non-stop, so what do you think they'll do? Refuel mid-air.... or make a stop somewhere?
 
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Re: Air Force 1 trip to Singapore flight plan

Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:33 pm

Anchorage?
 
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Re: Air Force 1 trip to Singapore flight plan

Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:50 pm

Make a stop.
 
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Re: Air Force 1 trip to Singapore flight plan

Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:53 pm

It would have to be HNL. Guam is out of the range of Air Force One.

Edit: But now that I think about it ANC or NRT would make for a way shorter trip.
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Re: Air Force 1 trip to Singapore flight plan

Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:37 am

In the past AF1 used ELmendorf and Yokota as refueling stops. Basically the military equivalent of ANC and NRT.
 
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Re: Air Force 1 trip to Singapore flight plan

Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:13 am

Has AF1 never been to SIN before?
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Re: Air Force 1 trip to Singapore flight plan

Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:53 am

Is AF1 ever refuelled inflight when the President is on board?
 
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Re: Air Force 1 trip to Singapore flight plan

Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:39 pm

Another route would be ADW-HNL-UAM-SIN. Longest leg is the ADW-HNL, but easily done.

AF-1 has never refueled in flight with POTUS onboard.
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Re: Air Force 1 trip to Singapore flight plan

Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:21 pm

aviationaware wrote:
Is AF1 ever refuelled inflight when the President is on board?


No
 
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Re: Air Force 1 trip to Singapore flight plan

Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:41 pm

jetwet1 wrote:
aviationaware wrote:
Is AF1 ever refuelled inflight when the President is on board?


No

Refuelling is practiced in the E-4B as well. The mechanism on the AF1 jets might be in working order but it remains practically unused since new.

IIRC apart from the obvious risk to the VC-25 there is also the risk of scratching the paint, so they use the other planes to practice.
 
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Re: Air Force 1 trip to Singapore flight plan

Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:17 pm

rj777 wrote:
Obviously a 747-200 can't fly DC-Singapore non-stop, so what do you think they'll do? Refuel mid-air.... or make a stop somewhere?


Hickam Air Force Base, pretty much HNL, but better in terms of security.
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Re: Air Force 1 trip to Singapore flight plan

Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:44 pm

I do not think they would fly the long way around.
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Re: Air Force 1 trip to Singapore flight plan

Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:34 pm

Is AF1 ever refuelled inflight when the President is on board?


In another thread here it was claimed that President Carter had been onboard some E-4A in 1978 that received fuel in flight. Callsign should have been AF-1 shouldn't it?

Somewhere else I read a rumor that one flight by President George W Bush to Iraq or Afghanistan (?) got refueled in flight. That was a surprise visit to some then high risk area and they didn't want to spoil the surprise before hand for security. Don't know if this is true.
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Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:35 pm

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Re: Air Force 1 trip to Singapore flight plan

Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:37 pm

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Noshow wrote:
Is AF1 ever refuelled inflight when the President is on board?


In another thread here it was claimed that President Carter had been onboard some E-4A in 1978 that received fuel in flight. Callsign should have been AF-1 shouldn't it?

Somewhere else I read a rumor that one flight by President George W Bush to Iraq or Afghanistan (?) got refueled in flight. That was a surprise visit to some then high risk area and they didn't want to spoil the surprise before hand for security. Don't know if this is true.


No, didn’t in-flight refuel on the secret trip to Baghdad.
 
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Re: Air Force 1 trip to Singapore flight plan

Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:41 pm

Noshow wrote:
Is AF1 ever refuelled inflight when the President is on board?


In another thread here it was claimed that President Carter had been onboard some E-4A in 1978 that received fuel in flight. Callsign should have been AF-1 shouldn't it?

Somewhere else I read a rumor that one flight by President George W Bush to Iraq or Afghanistan (?) got refueled in flight. That was a surprise visit to some then high risk area and they didn't want to spoil the surprise before hand for security. Don't know if this is true.


Both are true. Presidents Carter and Bush-43 have been aboard an aircraft being refueled inflight. Carter aboard an E-4B (call sign was AF-1) and Bush-43 were both refueled by KC-135s aboard the VC-25A. Bush got refueled twice, outbound and inbound. There were two KC-135Rs (plus airborne spares, I'm sure) in each refueling off loading about 100,000 lbs. each for a total of 200,000 outbound (Atlantic) and 200,000 lbs. inbound (Mediterranean). Carter took on about 50,000 lbs. from a single KC-135A just off the coast of NAS Norfolk.


Bush-43 was on a trip to his Texas ranch and snuck away during the Thanksgiving weekend to feed troops in Iraq Thanksgiving dinner.
 
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Re: Air Force 1 trip to Singapore flight plan

Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:25 am

Is there not another thread on this? The departure was from La Baie, Quebec, following the G7 summit, and it took the Atlantic route. I previously saw that the refueling stop would be Ramstein, but it's now reported as Crete: https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1005603848801546240

Air Force One landed at US Naval Activity at Souda Bay on the Greek island of Crete at 03:08 EEST (local time). We expect to be on the ground here for refueling for about 90 minutes. @W7VOA @WHPublicPool
 
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Re: Air Force 1 trip to Singapore flight plan

Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:37 pm

Wouldn't they stick to military faculties when it comes to refueling? YOW-SIN via Europe seems such a waste. EDF seems more reasonable. But when you're spending someone elses :dollarsign: :dollarsign: it's easy to throw it away.
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