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Embraer KC-390 prototype off runway at Gavião Peixoto test facility

Sat May 05, 2018 9:27 pm

Embraer says that its prototype KC-390 airlifted suffered “a runway excursion” at its Gavião Peixoto test facility. Company says crew was unhurt and deplaned safely. The airport has one of the longest runways in the world (was a Space Shuttle alternate strip). No word on damage.

https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/ ... 0984918017

Video of the aircraft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVqFSxoDbi4
 
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Re: Embraer KC-390 prototype off runway at Gavião Peixoto test facility

Sun May 06, 2018 7:13 am

ikolkyo wrote:


First Aid: taping over the decals.
( doesn't look damaged at all?)
Murphy is an optimist
 
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Re: Embraer KC-390 prototype off runway at Gavião Peixoto test facility

Sun May 06, 2018 8:49 am

WIederling wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:


First Aid: taping over the decals.
( doesn't look damaged at all?)


They are covering
G it up to avoid bad publicity
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Re: Embraer KC-390 prototype off runway at Gavião Peixoto test facility

Sun May 06, 2018 9:13 am

zeke wrote:
WIederling wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:


First Aid: taping over the decals.
( doesn't look damaged at all?)


They are covering
G it up to avoid bad publicity

ja, sarcasm doesn't carry over all too well on occasion. :-)
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Re: Embraer KC-390 prototype off runway at Gavião Peixoto test facility

Thu May 10, 2018 2:49 am

Doubt we’ll ever know what happened, but the aircraft appears to be extensively damaged. I wonder what the circumstances were, to overrun a 16,000 ft runway.
 
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Re: Embraer KC-390 prototype off runway at Gavião Peixoto test facility

Thu May 10, 2018 7:29 am

Seemed to have run over the end of the runway, skidded sideways and hit a fence?

But why indeed run over at 16,000 ft? Late abort? But even so...

(It would seem to have some information, given that we're talking about publicly traded companies.)
 
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Re: Embraer KC-390 prototype off runway at Gavião Peixoto test facility

Thu May 10, 2018 3:41 pm

AirlineCritic wrote:
Seemed to have run over the end of the runway, skidded sideways and hit a fence?

But why indeed run over at 16,000 ft? Late abort? But even so...

(It would seem to have some information, given that we're talking about publicly traded companies.)


Particularly in that it’s a publicly traded company making an aircraft on a democratic government contact right?
 
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Re: Embraer KC-390 prototype off runway at Gavião Peixoto test facility

Thu May 10, 2018 3:54 pm

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Re: Embraer KC-390 prototype off runway at Gavião Peixoto test facility

Thu May 10, 2018 6:30 pm

bigjku wrote:
AirlineCritic wrote:
Seemed to have run over the end of the runway, skidded sideways and hit a fence?

But why indeed run over at 16,000 ft? Late abort? But even so...

(It would seem to have some information, given that we're talking about publicly traded companies.)


Particularly in that it’s a publicly traded company making an aircraft on a democratic government contact right?


There is:

Source: https://embraer.com/global/en/news#/906346-communique

"Gavião Peixoto, Brazil, May 10, 2018

Embraer informs that after an initial evaluation of the KC-390, prototype 001, which was involved in an incident on May 05, when it experienced a runway excursion while performing ground tests at Embraer's Gavião Peixoto (SP) facility, extensive damage was identified on each of the three landing gear of the aircraft, as well as damage to the structure of the fuselage. Initial analyses indicate that the aircraft and all systems behaved normally, according to the design characteristics.

The Company is evaluating the planning schedule for the continuation of certification tests, including the possibility of transferring some tests to prototype 002 and to the first series aircraft, which are already in an advanced stage of assembly. Embraer maintains its forecast for the achievement of the Final Operational Capability, object of the final military certification of the aircraft, as well as the first delivery to the Brazilian Air Force, in the fourth quarter of 2018.

The Company has already initiated the investigation to find the causes of the incident and remains at the disposal of the aeronautical authorities."
 
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Re: Embraer KC-390 prototype off runway at Gavião Peixoto test facility

Thu May 10, 2018 7:10 pm

edu2703 wrote:
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wow, that landing gear is fucked up! All wheels wrenched away, shock absorbers and struts just torn right apart. This is not the result of some ordinary hard landing, something very violent happened here.
Earlier articles posted in the thread cited designers as saying that the design is made so that the gear assembly fails first, before the larger plane structures take damage. this is sound in principle, but perhaps the threshold for failing is set too low?
 
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Re: Embraer KC-390 prototype off runway at Gavião Peixoto test facility

Thu May 10, 2018 8:48 pm

Catfry wrote:
Earlier articles posted in the thread cited designers as saying that the design is made so that the gear assembly fails first, before the larger plane structures take damage. this is sound in principle, but perhaps the threshold for failing is set too low?


Or, it did its job, had its intended effect and helped prevent further damage.
 
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Re: Embraer KC-390 prototype off runway at Gavião Peixoto test facility

Thu May 10, 2018 9:09 pm

that's very true. However what were they DOING to cause such a last ditch structural emergency response? I will be very curious to see what emerges.

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