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Re: C-130 Crash Near SAV

Fri May 11, 2018 9:19 pm

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Slightly off course but I am curious as to why there were 9 people on the plane since it was going to Arizona to be retired. I was under the impression that the standard number of crew on a C-130 was 5.


5 seem's high even for a legacy C-130 (but I have no idea). On a J model it's obviously less than 5.

Maybe pilots needed hours so they were going to switch midflight? SPACE A maybe? No idea.
 
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Re: C-130 Crash Near SAV

Sat May 12, 2018 12:14 am

dfwjim1 wrote:
Slightly off course but I am curious as to why there were 9 people on the plane since it was going to Arizona to be retired. I was under the impression that the standard number of crew on a C-130 was 5.

When I was in the air force (which was not the US version), then any serviceman, private or general, might hitchhike on a C-47, C-54 or C-130 going in roughly the direction where he had private business during off duty time. Why not?

On a Friday afternoon, if a C-47 had to deliver a spare part to a base in the other end of the country, then it might be filled with privates going on weekend leave. Then they would use a C-47 which had wooden benches along the sides. It saved on train tickets.
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Re: C-130 Crash Near SAV

Sat May 12, 2018 12:34 pm

Andre3K wrote:
dfwjim1 wrote:
Slightly off course but I am curious as to why there were 9 people on the plane since it was going to Arizona to be retired. I was under the impression that the standard number of crew on a C-130 was 5.


5 seem's high even for a legacy C-130 (but I have no idea). On a J model it's obviously less than 5.

Maybe pilots needed hours so they were going to switch midflight? SPACE A maybe? No idea.


Not unusual for a C-130, even a J model, to take extra crew and some maintenance guys along on a long trip. Especially an old Herk like this one.
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Re: C-130 Crash Near SAV

Sat May 12, 2018 5:43 pm

zanl188 wrote:
Andre3K wrote:
dfwjim1 wrote:
Slightly off course but I am curious as to why there were 9 people on the plane since it was going to Arizona to be retired. I was under the impression that the standard number of crew on a C-130 was 5.


5 seem's high even for a legacy C-130 (but I have no idea). On a J model it's obviously less than 5.

Maybe pilots needed hours so they were going to switch midflight? SPACE A maybe? No idea.


Not unusual for a C-130, even a J model, to take extra crew and some maintenance guys along on a long trip. Especially an old Herk like this one.


That much is obvious but he was referring to the amount of STANDARD crew, not deadheading or any other random reason for them being there.
 
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Re: C-130 Crash Near SAV

Sat May 12, 2018 8:06 pm

Andre3K wrote:

That much is obvious but he was referring to the amount of STANDARD crew, not deadheading or any other random reason for them being there.


I spent a decade in the C-130 world. There's no such thing as a "standard" crew in day to day operations.
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Re: C-130 Crash Near SAV

Sat May 12, 2018 9:04 pm

Standard C-130 crew, all models prior to the J, was: aircraft commander, co-pilot, nav, engineer, loadmaster. Makes five by my count.


Gf
 
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Re: C-130 Crash Near SAV

Sat May 12, 2018 11:07 pm

When you lose an engine and there is no obstacle in front, shouldn't you level off right away ?
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Re: C-130 Crash Near SAV

Sun May 13, 2018 3:20 am

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
Standard C-130 crew, all models prior to the J, was: aircraft commander, co-pilot, nav, engineer, loadmaster. Makes five by my count.


Gf


Thank you, that's a solid answer right there.
 
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Re: C-130 Crash Near SAV

Sun May 13, 2018 7:47 am

I was on a USCG Herc that flew quite a ways on 2 engines on the same wing in 82 from Elmendorf to McCord. The two failures were for unrelated reasons, no matter how unlikely it's suppose to be.
One of the passengers was a survivor of the USCG C-130 CFIT at Attu a few weeks earlier.

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