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‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:06 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... ost&wpmk=1

Perhaps Vlad could lend him a spare IL96?
 
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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:19 am

Doesn't he have a VIP IL-62?
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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:05 pm

Seabear wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/air-force-un-as-north-koreas-leader-steps-onto-international-stage-a-question-over-his-ability-to-fly/2018/04/09/08c265e2-3c08-11e8-8d53-eba0ed2371cc_story.html?utm_term=.cc3c586d3a3e&wpisrc=nl_az_most&wpmk=1

Perhaps Vlad could lend him a spare IL96?

Slightly OT, has a head of state ever flown in another head of states aircraft before?
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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:00 pm

Well, for somewhere around the region, Sukhoi's wingleted SBJ is good enough...less than stellar safety record notwithstanding..... :wink2: .....

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Available in a generic Government layout or can be custom ordered with a luxurious interior like this..... :cloudnine: .....

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:cheerful: For TPAC or European missions, another potential candidate for Airbus' 251t GLIDER..... :airplane:
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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:47 am

Of course, their Dear Leader could always opt for CRAIC's CR-929..... :eyepopping: .....

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Or wait for Ilyushin's new, long-range, twin-engine Il-96 widebody variant..... :arrow:

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... 96-445788/

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"United Aircraft says that Ilyushin, which heads its transport division, is 'looking into' a potential twin-engined design 'to continue the life of the Il-96 aircraft'.

The PD-35 would have a baseline thrust of more than 77,000lb, twice that of the PS-90A1, and Aviadvigatel has indicated that the powerplant family could extend to thrusts of 100,000lb.

Ilyushin says the PD-35 will emerge by 2025 and that it is working on a project which would consist of two PD-35s in a configuration which would reduce fuel consumption and maintenance costs.

United Aircraft is already developing a twin-engined long-haul aircraft, designated the CRAIC CR929, in co-operation with Chinese airframer Comac. The company stresses that this project is separate to Ilyushin's future Il-96 considerations."
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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:58 am

TWA772LR wrote:
Seabear wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/air-force-un-as-north-koreas-leader-steps-onto-international-stage-a-question-over-his-ability-to-fly/2018/04/09/08c265e2-3c08-11e8-8d53-eba0ed2371cc_story.html?utm_term=.cc3c586d3a3e&wpisrc=nl_az_most&wpmk=1

Perhaps Vlad could lend him a spare IL96?

Slightly OT, has a head of state ever flown in another head of states aircraft before?


Yup. More often than you think, actually.

In Cold War times it was "normal" that the USSR would fly around leaders of Banana Republics of Africa.

In recent years, pretty much any time that Chavez or Maduro of Venezuela flew anywhere to Europe, he would use Cubana's IL-96.
Plus there was a few times when Putin or Medvedev would fly with another head of state aboard on the IL-96. Silvio Berlusconi of Italy got to ride it several times.
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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:37 pm

Recently Emmanuel Macron's Falcon 7X was in a collision in Sénégal, so he rode a presidential A319CJ with the senegalese president. Incidentally this was a former French presidential aircraft, before Sarkozy upgraded to an A330.
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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:50 pm

Aesma wrote:
Recently Emmanuel Macron's Falcon 7X was in a collision in Sénégal, so he rode a presidential A319CJ with the senegalese president. Incidentally this was a former French presidential aircraft, before Sarkozy upgraded to an A330.

They should just ask Airbus to install engines and certificate the glider in #4 above...then send it to completions to replace the damaged Falcon. :airplane: MACPrime! :cheerful:
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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:15 pm

Nothing :?: Back to AF 'UN'.....perhaps the SSJ-75 with 'saberlets' would be more apropos..... :airplane: .....

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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:17 am

TWA772LR wrote:
Seabear wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/air-force-un-as-north-koreas-leader-steps-onto-international-stage-a-question-over-his-ability-to-fly/2018/04/09/08c265e2-3c08-11e8-8d53-eba0ed2371cc_story.html?utm_term=.cc3c586d3a3e&wpisrc=nl_az_most&wpmk=1

Perhaps Vlad could lend him a spare IL96?

Slightly OT, has a head of state ever flown in another head of states aircraft before?

Reading about the history of government aircraft in the UK I found, that they changed their mind all the time, so they had no aircraft for many years and at one point, the prime minister had to charter an African 744 for a trip:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -oil-plane
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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:42 am

As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly


What a childish topic.

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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:39 pm

If the current option is good enough for a Sam Chui trip report it's good enough for Rocket Man. And judging by Air Koryo's stewardesses I can only imagine the talent patrolling Air Force Un. If DJ Trumpet gets lured inside we could have an international incident on our hands.
 
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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:11 pm

Is there a decrepit TU-154 available somewhere?
 
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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Sat May 05, 2018 6:32 am

There are 3 Ilyushin Il-62M aircraft operated as VIP transports for the KPAF. I don't understand the point of this thread?
 
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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Sat May 05, 2018 9:12 pm

Melbourne wrote:
I don't understand the point of this thread?


American propaganda in the same style as "hur hur, he fat" :roll:

I for one think that arriving on a massive private train is way cooler and a very stately way to arrive for meeting with the US President. Any talk of the meeting happening in the US is nonsense anyway. It will happen on neutral ground. Wherever they go, it will almost certainly be within a fuel stops distance from Russia or China.
 
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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Sat May 05, 2018 9:25 pm

VSMUT wrote:
Melbourne wrote:
I don't understand the point of this thread?


American propaganda in the same style as "hur hur, he fat" :roll:

I for one think that arriving on a massive private train is way cooler and a very stately way to arrive for meeting with the US President. Any talk of the meeting happening in the US is nonsense anyway. It will happen on neutral ground. Wherever they go, it will almost certainly be within a fuel stops distance from Russia or China.


99% sure it's been set for the DMZ between the two Koreas....
 
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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Sun May 06, 2018 4:29 am

VSMUT wrote:
Melbourne wrote:
I don't understand the point of this thread?


American propaganda in the same style as "hur hur, he fat" :roll:

I for one think that arriving on a massive private train is way cooler and a very stately way to arrive for meeting with the US President. Any talk of the meeting happening in the US is nonsense anyway. It will happen on neutral ground. Wherever they go, it will almost certainly be within a fuel stops distance from Russia or China.

FWIW proposed sites include (in addition to the above) Mongolia, Singapore and Switzerland. The first 2 are within Il62 range, while Switzerland would involve a stop in Russia (to meet with P-Daddy) or China (to meet with Xi (snappy name not found)).
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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Sun May 06, 2018 5:36 am

TWA772LR wrote:
VSMUT wrote:
Melbourne wrote:
I don't understand the point of this thread?


American propaganda in the same style as "hur hur, he fat" :roll:

I for one think that arriving on a massive private train is way cooler and a very stately way to arrive for meeting with the US President. Any talk of the meeting happening in the US is nonsense anyway. It will happen on neutral ground. Wherever they go, it will almost certainly be within a fuel stops distance from Russia or China.

FWIW proposed sites include (in addition to the above) Mongolia, Singapore and Switzerland. The first 2 are within Il62 range, while Switzerland would involve a stop in Russia (to meet with P-Daddy) or China (to meet with Xi (snappy name not found)).


Well Air Koryo served Europe for many years using the Il-62M, not to mention the fact Zurich was host to the very same VIP il-62M that is being used now most likely carrying Kim Jong Un as well as he did live in the past.
 
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Thu May 10, 2018 5:35 pm

The meeting will be occurring on June 12th in Singapore. FNJ-SIN is 2557 NM
 
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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Tue May 22, 2018 8:49 pm

Runs on vodka.....and twinkies...or ho ho's it looks like..
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Re: ‘Air Force Un’: As North Korea’s leader steps onto international stage, a question over his ability to fly

Thu May 24, 2018 3:55 pm

jonnyclam123 wrote:
The meeting will be occurring on June 12th in Singapore. FNJ-SIN is 2557 NM


Or not.

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