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Italian F-35 plans in danger after the election

Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:27 pm

At the recent Italian elections, the 5 star movement, a populist party, managed to win 32% of the votes, becoming by far the biggest political party in Italy.

The party has long been against what they consider excessive public spending, and has long had it's sights on the F-35 which they consider a massive waste of public finances. With approximately a third of all Italian votes, chances of them taking office as part of a government coalition are pretty high. And even if they don't, they gained twice as many votes as the next biggest party, so even the opposition will be hard pressed to ignore the call from the voters.

In May a parliament member for the 5 star movement, Tatiana Basilio stated "There will be no ifs or buts about leaving the F-35 program". The party is strongly in favour of focusing on the Eurofighter Typhoon only.

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Re: Italian F-35 plans in danger after the election

Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:56 pm

The Italian election results are interesting, and in line with the "populist" political wave going over Europe at this time.

I don't think the F-35 plans are in jeopardy though, as Italy is one of three places where the F-35 is being produced (as far as I know). The program provides a lot of high technology jobs. Political parties always say a lot of things during the elections, but when they take their seats reality sets in and they are always forced to reconsider many of their promises.
 
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Re: Italian F-35 plans in danger after the election

Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:30 pm

JetBuddy wrote:
The Italian election results are interesting, and in line with the "populist" political wave going over Europe at this time.

I don't think the F-35 plans are in jeopardy though, as Italy is one of three places where the F-35 is being produced (as far as I know). The program provides a lot of high technology jobs. Political parties always say a lot of things during the elections, but when they take their seats reality sets in and they are always forced to reconsider many of their promises.


These people aren't your ordinary politicians though (they forbid career politicians among other things), and they have stated their hostility towards the F-35 since 2013 at least. They seek to end politically created jobs like the F-35 project, that's more or less one of the main points of the party.
 
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Re: Italian F-35 plans in danger after the election

Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:42 pm

VSMUT wrote:
These people aren't your ordinary politicians though (they forbid career politicians among other things), and they have stated their hostility towards the F-35 since 2013 at least. They seek to end politically created jobs like the F-35 project, that's more or less one of the main points of the party.

They can do it of course. And then pay the penalty. There is an actual contract in place with monetary penalties. They pay and lose jobs.

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Re: Italian F-35 plans in danger after the election

Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:14 am

VSMUT wrote:
At the recent Italian elections, the 5 star movement, a populist party, managed to win 32% of the votes, becoming by far the biggest political party in Italy.

The party has long been against what they consider excessive public spending, and has long had it's sights on the F-35 which they consider a massive waste of public finances. With approximately a third of all Italian votes, chances of them taking office as part of a government coalition are pretty high. And even if they don't, they gained twice as many votes as the next biggest party, so even the opposition will be hard pressed to ignore the call from the voters.

In May a parliament member for the 5 star movement, Tatiana Basilio stated "There will be no ifs or buts about leaving the F-35 program". The party is strongly in favour of focusing on the Eurofighter Typhoon only.

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Still, I don't think this is particularly noteworthy. Military aircraft always have four dimensions to their performance, the fourth one being politics. If one aircraft is seen to be supported or aligned with a particular side of politics, then it is in grave danger if the other sides should win power in an election. Cost is less important than politics.

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