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Re: F-35 news thread

Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:13 am

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Hey, Siri, How Do You Fly An F-35?

As the U.S. Air Force faces a growing pilot shortage, a small team of airmen is looking to revolutionize pilot training by substituting virtual reality for flying time and supplementing human instructors with artificial intelligence (AI). Starting in February, a class of 20 students—15 officers and five enlisted airmen—will begin an experimental pilot training course developed by Lt. Col. Eric Frahm and a small team at the Air Force’s Strategic Development Planning and ...

http://aviationweek.com/combat-aircraft/hey-siri-how-do-you-fly-f-35

The article is more about VR training of aircrew and the potential to replace some components of the flight training syllabus than about the F-35.


Talk to any relevant fighter guy and that idea is laughed out of the room. Actually, the line from Full Metal Jacket is relevant here...."Choke yourself".

I see no reason the USAF shouldn't look to include greater and better fidelity simulators within their training syllabus and in the end that is what the article is talking about. Sure it doesn't replace flight experience but we are clearly at a point now where the simulators are available that match reality close enough that this can be done. For example the first time any pilot flies an F-35 they do so solo, than is vastly different to a generation ago and is possible because of the technology level of the simulators.
 
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Re: F-35 news thread

Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:32 pm

Norway to Procure F-35, P-8 Aircraft From Lockheed, Boeing

Norwegian Prime Minister Erna Solberg has said the country intends to buy additional F-35 jets from Lockheed Martin and P-8 maritime surveillance planes from Boeing, FOX Business reported Wednesday.

The first three of the 52 ordered F-35 units were delivered in November 2017.

A Lockheed representative said to FOX that Norway has supported the F-35 effort since developmental phases.

Prime Minister Erna Solberg said that the economic relationship between the Norway and the U.S. is being strengthened, the report noted.

The F-35 integrates stealth, speed and network-linking capacities to participate in modern aerial combat.

The P-8 is a naval aircraft designed to perform anti-submarine warfare, reconnaissance and intelligence operations.

https://blog.executivebiz.com/2018/01/norway-to-purchase-f-35-p-8-aircraft-from-boeing-lockheed-martin/
 
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Re: F-35 news thread

Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:25 pm

21ST CENTURY MILITARY POWER: CHANGING THE HARD AND SOFT POWER CALCULUS

An F-35 squadron can carry inherent within it an electronic attack force, a missile defense tracking capability, a mapping capability for the ground forces, ISR and C2 capabilities for the deployed force and do so in a compact deployment package.

In addition, an F-35 fleet can empower Air Defense Artillery (ADA), whether Aegis afloat or Patriots and THAAD Batteries, the concept of establishing air dominance is moving in a synergistic direction.

An F-35 EW capability along with it’s AA and AG capability will introduce innovate tactics in the SEAD mission.

Concurrently, the F-35 will empower U.S. and Allied ADA situational awareness. The current engagement of the IDF employment of their Irion Dome in conjunction with aviation attacks is a demonstration of this type of emerging partnership being forged in battle.

To get a similar capability today into the Area of Interest would require a diversified and complex aerial fleet, whose very size would create a political statement, which one might really not want to make.

With an F-35 enabled ground insertion force, a smaller force with significant lethality and flexibility could be deployed until it is no longer needed for it is about air-enabled ground forces. A tiltrotar enabled assault force with top cover from a 360 degree operational F-35 fleet, whether USMC, USN, USAF or allied can allow for the kind of flexibility necessary for 21st century warfare and operational realities.

http://www.sldinfo.com/21st-century-mil ... -calculus/

The F-35 specifics are above but a lot more in the article itself.
 
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Re: F-35 news thread

Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:32 am

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Norway to Procure F-35, P-8 Aircraft From Lockheed, Boeing

Norwegian Prime Minister Erna Solberg has said the country intends to buy additional F-35 jets from Lockheed Martin and P-8 maritime surveillance planes from Boeing, FOX Business reported Wednesday.

The first three of the 52 ordered F-35 units were delivered in November 2017.

A Lockheed representative said to FOX that Norway has supported the F-35 effort since developmental phases.

Prime Minister Erna Solberg said that the economic relationship between the Norway and the U.S. is being strengthened, the report noted.

The F-35 integrates stealth, speed and network-linking capacities to participate in modern aerial combat.

The P-8 is a naval aircraft designed to perform anti-submarine warfare, reconnaissance and intelligence operations.

https://blog.executivebiz.com/2018/01/norway-to-purchase-f-35-p-8-aircraft-from-boeing-lockheed-martin/



Just to be clear, Norway has no plans of buying more than the 52 F-35's and 5 P-8,s already ordered. Fox is just late to the table here ;-)
 
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Re: F-35 news thread

Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:25 am

Mortyman wrote:
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Norway to Procure F-35, P-8 Aircraft From Lockheed, Boeing

Norwegian Prime Minister Erna Solberg has said the country intends to buy additional F-35 jets from Lockheed Martin and P-8 maritime surveillance planes from Boeing, FOX Business reported Wednesday.

The first three of the 52 ordered F-35 units were delivered in November 2017.

A Lockheed representative said to FOX that Norway has supported the F-35 effort since developmental phases.

Prime Minister Erna Solberg said that the economic relationship between the Norway and the U.S. is being strengthened, the report noted.

The F-35 integrates stealth, speed and network-linking capacities to participate in modern aerial combat.

The P-8 is a naval aircraft designed to perform anti-submarine warfare, reconnaissance and intelligence operations.

https://blog.executivebiz.com/2018/01/norway-to-purchase-f-35-p-8-aircraft-from-boeing-lockheed-martin/



Just to be clear, Norway has no plans of buying more than the 52 F-35's and 5 P-8,s already ordered. Fox is just late to the table here ;-)

Yeah, I interpreted the statement as we have bought the first few and will be buying more, not an increase to the overall total but a continuation of the current procurement plan.
 
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Re: F-35 news thread

Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:34 am

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CX747 wrote:
Ozair wrote:
Hey, Siri, How Do You Fly An F-35?


http://aviationweek.com/combat-aircraft/hey-siri-how-do-you-fly-f-35

The article is more about VR training of aircrew and the potential to replace some components of the flight training syllabus than about the F-35.


Talk to any relevant fighter guy and that idea is laughed out of the room. Actually, the line from Full Metal Jacket is relevant here...."Choke yourself".

I see no reason the USAF shouldn't look to include greater and better fidelity simulators within their training syllabus and in the end that is what the article is talking about. Sure it doesn't replace flight experience but we are clearly at a point now where the simulators are available that match reality close enough that this can be done. For example the first time any pilot flies an F-35 they do so solo, than is vastly different to a generation ago and is possible because of the technology level of the simulators.


I can't agree with that and neither can those that teach others how to fly fighters. This is a bad idea and will get people killed.
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Re: F-35 news thread

Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:11 am

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Ozair wrote:
CX747 wrote:

Talk to any relevant fighter guy and that idea is laughed out of the room. Actually, the line from Full Metal Jacket is relevant here...."Choke yourself".

I see no reason the USAF shouldn't look to include greater and better fidelity simulators within their training syllabus and in the end that is what the article is talking about. Sure it doesn't replace flight experience but we are clearly at a point now where the simulators are available that match reality close enough that this can be done. For example the first time any pilot flies an F-35 they do so solo, than is vastly different to a generation ago and is possible because of the technology level of the simulators.


I can't agree with that and neither can those that teach others how to fly fighters. This is a bad idea and will get people killed.

Which part don't you agree with, more and enhanced simulator time or F-35 solo flights?
 
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Re: F-35 news thread

Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:33 pm

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CX747 wrote:
Ozair wrote:
I see no reason the USAF shouldn't look to include greater and better fidelity simulators within their training syllabus and in the end that is what the article is talking about. Sure it doesn't replace flight experience but we are clearly at a point now where the simulators are available that match reality close enough that this can be done. For example the first time any pilot flies an F-35 they do so solo, than is vastly different to a generation ago and is possible because of the technology level of the simulators.


I can't agree with that and neither can those that teach others how to fly fighters. This is a bad idea and will get people killed.

Which part don't you agree with, more and enhanced simulator time or F-35 solo flights?


We could argue semantics but any F-14 or A-10 guy going for his first ride in 1981 was "solo". Simulators are fine, any massive usage in lieu of flight time at that level (F-35 etc) is watering down abilities and in the end puts greater pressure on frontline squadrons who have guys show up incapable of performing and potentially making smoking holes in the ground.
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Re: F-35 news thread

Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:24 pm

Who would win in a fight between F-35 and cheaper Gripen?

The Lockheed F-35 Lightning has been drawing a lot of press – and orders from across the world. According to a Lockheed website, 14 countries either have orders in or are looking at buying the Lightning. But another cheaper jet is making waves.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/gear-tech/who-would-win-in-a-fight-between-f-35-and-cheaper-gripen

Not sure this even qualifies as news but posting nonetheless...
 
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Re: F-35 news thread

Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:27 pm

FIFTH GENERATION AIR C2 AND ISR

In his paper, Lt. Col. Hoeben looks at the co-evolution of C2, ISR and the coming of the F-35 as a fleet air combat asset.

“The goal of 5th Generation Air C2 and ISR is to adjust military actions better as the situation unfolds and thus reach better and quicker effects and objectives…..”

http://www.sldinfo.com/fifth-generation-air-c2-and-isr/
 
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Re: F-35 news thread

Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:43 pm

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We could argue semantics but any F-14 or A-10 guy going for his first ride in 1981 was "solo". Simulators are fine, any massive usage in lieu of flight time at that level (F-35 etc) is watering down abilities and in the end puts greater pressure on frontline squadrons who have guys show up incapable of performing and potentially making smoking holes in the ground.

So how many hours do you consider is watering down? We see most F-35 operators are looking at somewhere around 100-150 hours of actual flight time and another 100+ of simulator time. One of the key reasons for this is actually proficiency of aircrew.

Right now there is no threat range on earth that can accurately simulate the number and capability of threats a 5th gen fighter will face. Being able to throw exceptionally challenging scenarios via simulation is key to future training and allowing aircrew to train to use the full extent of the respective aircraft. Aircrew literally cannot fly those scenarios in real life. Additionally, sims are linked together and aircrew can now conduct large scale ops in formations in a very cost effective way. That doesn’t replace actual experience at Red Flag or Talisman Sabre but supplements those exercises.

Everyone in the community knows a pilot needs to fly but a pilot today is not just about his hands and feet. He needs to manage a weapon system and tactically apply that weapon system, and the weapons systems of those flying with him. To do that he needs to train for all the scenarios he may potentially face, some of those he can do in the air, some he can only do in the sim.
 
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Re: F-35 news thread

Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:17 pm

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Well this idea at least has been around for years:

And I do believe it is in it's design parameters.

Correct, another image which is from 2011. The Drive is pretty low on editorial credibility though, the site is very focused on click bait articles, so I don't put a lot of stock in their info but I am trying to post all articles here in the thread, not just positive ones or those from credible sites.

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and this one which shows the plan for Blk 4 weapons integration. The below is old and has changed though the JPO appears to have received permission to start Blk 4 work immediately and not wait for formal OT&E certification. Much of the weapon integration work can be done now and it seems pointless to wait until a formal Blk 4 window opens.

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Tugger wrote:
And just for fun, I found this and think it is interesting enough to post here, others who know more than I can tell me if it is useful or useless.
http://www.dept.aoe.vt.edu/~mason/Mason_f/F35ASpr11.pdf

Tugg

A decent overview although some stuff in there that is now outdated, I'm also not a fan of drag calculations like that, too many assumptions.


Time marches on but the F-35 has yet to prove itself in real world scenarios. I'd love to see how the F-35 would compare to an updated F-14D or the Tomcat 21. Or what it will truly bring to the fight when called upon to haul iron 6+ hours one way. I fear a reality that we saw in 2001 when F-14As were leading the fight into Astan, not the F/A-18Cs.

At the time, an F-14A was a proven and reliable aircraft with well-trained crews which offered very little (if any) disadvantage over an F-18. That's a completely different scenario than using a 5th-gen F-35 over a legacy F-14.

What exactly are you concerned about in such a hypothetical mission for the F-35?

As far as "what it would truly bring to the fight" - uh, stealth for starters. :lol: I feel like people are down-playing that advantage these days - it has the singular capability of completely transforming a given mission profile and success rate. I mean, you could get into sensor-fusion and all the other stuff, but I'm not sure what mission profile you're talking about. First-strike? Air-to-air? First-strike capability basically requires stealth (if one were to "dominate" an opponent at least - I'm sure an F-14 would still do quite well conventionally) and as far as air-to-air is concerned, a flight of multiple F-35s in communication with each other provides a level of SA that the F-14 could never achieve.

Anyways this isn't really fair, I love the F-14 to death, but you just can't pitch 50-year-old technology against something that's basically half-composite, half-computer - neither of which even existed when the Tomcat was developed! (okay, primitive.. but you get my point)

Also, saying the F-35 has yet to prove itself is a strange statement.. we spend billions developing ICBMs, but the Minuteman-III (and every other ICBM) has yet to prove itself. ;) Isn't that the entire point of defense spending? I believe (like the F-15) that the majority of the F-35s combat experience will likely be with a foreign nation.
 
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Re: F-35 news thread

Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:23 am

Surface Navy Working to Bring Firepower Over the Horizon Through Networking, F-35 Integration

The surface Navy is looking to capitalize on recent successes increasing ships’ offensive range and lethality, with the next task being added sensing and targeting capabilities to support its new weaponry.


Rear Adm. Ronald Boxall, the Navy’s director of surface warfare (N96), said the Navy is looking for ways to do long-range intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance, and targeting (ISR-T) as a next step following recent advances in implementing the distributed lethality concept — where surface ships are better armed and conduct disaggregated operations to complicate the enemy’s targeting.

“We used to be able to say, ‘hey, we’d target out to the range of our helicopters,’” Boxall said at last week’s Surface Navy Association annual symposium.
“Now we’re looking, as our weapons’ range gets very long, the next order of effect is how do we target out to those very long ranges?”

Combinations of surface ships, unmanned systems, submarines, and aircraft are all being tried to determine how best expand range, Boxall’s counterpart, director of expeditionary warfare Marine Corps Maj. Gen. David Coffman (OPNAV N95) said, citing recent technology improvements such as the SPY-6 Air and Missile Defense Radar (AMDR) and maritime strike Tomahawk missiles as enablers of this new range.

Boxall cited as examples the Littoral Combat Ship, which has already tested an over-the-horizon missile that the service plans to field “over the summer,” and the Maritime Strike Tomahawk, which “we’re going to continue to field that going forward. Everybody who has vertical cell, if you have that you can field this.”

A key enabler going forward will be the Marine Corps’ Lockheed Martin F-35B Lighting II Joint Strike Fighters (JSF), which will be integrated into amphibious ready group (ARG) operations this year. Amphibious assault ships’ flight decks have already been upgraded to support F-35B operations, Coffman said, and now the operators will learn to use the planes to help the Navy and Marine Corps team fight farther inland.

Coffman said he wants to get away from the idea Navy ships are just busses that transport Marines. Instead, he wants Marines embarked on the ships to be an integrated part of the what he said was the “fight to get to the fight.”

He cited the new USS America (LHA-6), an amphibious assault ship that does not have a well deck to deliver Marines ashore via surface connector. Instead, the ship can carry more F-35B aircraft and the offensive firepower and computing power they bring, and more rotary wing aircraft to bring Marines ashore from further distances away from threats in the sea or on land.

“No one else on the planet can do what we can do in scope and scale in the littoral battlespace or in warfighting from the sea,” Coffman said. “That’s just the facts.”

https://news.usni.org/2018/01/16/30631
 
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Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:27 am

USAF awards for two F-35 instructors of the Italian Air Force

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Luke AFB, Arizona. Last week during a short ceremony, Maggiore Salvatore L., an Italian instructor pilot at the 62nd Fighter Squadron, was awarded the "AETC Safety Award 2017". The AETC (Air Education and Training Command) is the Command of the US Air Force that deals with the training of all personnel, both navigating and technical-logistic.

The "Safety Award" is awarded every year to the pilot who, in real situations, has been more distinguished in flight safety for having demonstrated expertise, technical skills, knowledge of the procedures and, last but not least, cold blood in avoiding a flight problem potentially serious. Specifically, Maggiore L., during one of the training flights, was essential in providing timely assistance to its leader during an emergency, "guiding" him to the landing that took place in complete safety.

The same ceremony was also awarded to Major Luca V. as the best instructor, with the rank of Senior Officer, for the fourth quarter of 2017: "Instructor Pilot of the Quarter (Field Grade Officer)".

The two awards are a confirmation of the human and professional skills expressed by Italian pilots at the American base: last year, in fact, the then Captain Giuseppe A., today Maggiore, received the same recognition among the Lower Officials, "Instructor Pilot of the Quarter (Company Grade Officer) ", qualifying later, unique among the Italians," instructor instructor ".

The detachment of Luke (Arizona), where the Italian personnel operates, is headed by the Italian Military Representation based in Eglin (Florida), an inter-agency reality reporting directly to the JSF Program Management of the General Secretariat of Defense.

It is Eglin's RMI that deals with the training of all Italian military personnel (pilots, technicians and maintenance personnel of the Italian Air Force and the Navy) destined to operate on the F-35 aircraft, in its two versions: "A" conventional take-off and "B" with a short take-off and vertical landing, of which Italy has decided to equip itself.

http://www.aviation-report.com/riconoscimenti-usaf-per-due-piloti-istruttori-f-35-aeronautica-militare-italiana/
 
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Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:34 am

Fighter Challenge in Europe - Scientist: Neighbors' F-35 Decisions Affect Finland

A long article in Finnish that talks about the future Finnish HX fighter competition and how the F-35 sits currently in Europe. Google translated version below.

The Finnish Defense Ministry is preparing to send an invitation to five different fighter dispensers in the so-called HX project. Finland is not in Europe alone with its slicers.
Belgium is preparing to make a decision this year and Germany at the same time as Finland, ie by 2021 at the latest. Poland and Switzerland are also launching acquisitions.

In recent years, Britain, the Netherlands, Italy, Norway and Denmark have already reached the American machine Lockheed Martin F-35, which has been offered to Finland as well.

-If the new F-35 project has joined the new countries and also the Nordic countries, then it certainly will influence the thinking. It is likely to lower the price of machinery even if production volumes increase, according to Matti Pesu, visiting researcher at the Finnish Institute of International Affairs, in a New Finland interview.

There have been accusations of political games in the context of European fighter disputes. Washing, however, believes that in Finland, the solution will mainly be done with regard to performance and price, and not, for example, with political partnerships.

The HX project can somewhat reflect on this Hornet acquisition of the 1990s. However, in my opinion I went to more technical performance than above, says Washing.

The decree of the 1992 decision on encrypted documents has already been published after 25 years of confidentiality. A summary of the acquisitions was provided to the Esko Aho (central) government, which shows that the various options were scored accurately in different areas. The Hornet fighter was a clear winner of the comparison.


Washing stresses that the biggest political solution in the Finnish HX project has actually been made. To consider when no Russian machine emerged, unlike the 1990s fighter competition.

Now, the HX project has five different types of aircraft, two of which are F18 Superhornet and F35 Lightning II - American. Gripen E is a machine made in Sweden. In addition, there is the French Dassault Rafale and the Eurofighter Typhoon born in English as a co-operation.


And even if it was a performance-friendly Russian machine, this would not be a Russian machine. The parties involved are politically acceptable.

While the fighter auctioning emphasizes military performance and price, it is openly provided by the Ministry of Defense on its web site that they are not the only decisive factors. The horizontal issue also emphasizes the involvement of domestic industry, security of supply and security policy implications.

As far as policy is concerned, Wash believes that the French are Dassault and BAE Systems in English.

-This is where Sweden and the United States are going over European competitors. Cooperation with both Sweden and the United States has the highest political weight. It weighs a bit. But I do believe that here is considered the price and the total package.

Other European fighter bullets have been accused of louder political gameplay. One year ago, Super Hornet, Boeing, challenged the Danish state for its fighter solution. In the view of the company, the assessment of the various fighters was not fair and Denmark did not open the final documents.

In Belgium, the conditions of the tender have been estimated to have been specifically designed for F-35 selection. That is why Boeing pulled the Super Hornets early in the Belgian race. The Swedish government, on the other hand, decided to withdraw the Saab Gripen fighters from the competition last July. It argues that Belgium required such "operational aid" that could not be given a political mandate. Sweden did not specify what it meant.

Belgium is part of the NATO Nuclear Sharing Program and there are American nuclear bombs in the country, even though the country is not really a nuclear weapon. Its fighters are prepared to carry nuclear bombs and Belgium wants to retain this capability in the future. Impact on Gripen has been considered by the Defense Aerospace.

The Belgian fighter game was re-launched by France's last September proposal for the Rafale offered to Finland. France and Dassault propose, in addition to trade, a "comprehensive partnership" with reference to Dassault's Belgian subcontractors and defense co-operation.

The US F-35 fighter has also emerged in Germany. In November last year, the country became a little shaky when the Air Force Commander Karl Müllner was interpreted for the flagrant fighter. According to him, Germany needs a machine equipped with abrasive properties that is ready to be "drawn directly from the shelf" in 2025.

Germany wants to launch 115 Panavia Tornado fighters, the first of which was launched in 1979. The Air Force is also using the Eurofighter Typhoons offered to Finland. Both machines have emerged as a European co-operation and manufactured in England and Germany. The German Defense Defense Minister rush to say, after Müllner's comments, that the primary option for Germany is still Eurofighter.

Germany and France announced last summer that countries are planning to design a new European fighter.

-German's current Tornado machines are so old and in poor condition that the country has a bit of a hurry in purchases. When the F-35 has been developed for a long time, it looks like a pre-packaged package than a joint planning between Germany and France, which does not yet know anything, Pesu says

https://www.uusisuomi.fi/kotimaa/239566-havittajakisa-kaynnissa-euroopassa-tutkija-naapureiden-f-35-paatokset-vaikuttanevat
 
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Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:38 am

The most expensive fighter in the world

The fighter jet F-35 is the most expensive and controversial armament project in the world. Its stealth function causes it to be barely visible on the radar. In addition, the expensive machine can drop nuclear weapons.

https://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/flug-mit-der-f-35-das-teuerste-kampfflugzeug-der-welt-id7849446.html
 
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Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:20 pm

Defence Secretary Lands Brand New F-35 Jet... Sort Of

The British engineering and expertise that's helped develop F-35 B Lightning II aircraft was celebrated in London today.

The F35 may be an American airframe, but when it is delivered to the Royal Navy and the Royal Air Force later this year, inside will be a huge host of British developed kit.

Today, the Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson tried his hand at flying and landing the brand-new F-35 fighter jet- via a simulator.

At an event held at the Institute for Engineering and Technology, the cockpit demonstrator gave the Mr Williamson a feel for flying the new aircraft.

He practiced landing and taking off from the nation’s flagship to be, the HMS Queen Elizabeth.

After flying the jet demonstrator, Mr Williamson said: “The F-35 is the most advanced and dynamic fighter aircraft in our history, and will defend this country from terrorists, collect crucial intelligence, and safeguard our national interests from those who seek to do us harm.”

https://www.forces.net/news/defence-secretary-lands-brand-new-f-35-jet-sort

Additional reporting on the same event here,

Defence Secretary, MPs and US Ambassador try their hand at ‘flying’ an F-35 jet

MPs, lords and the US ambassador have all tried their hand at flying one of Britain’s new multi-million pound stealth fighter jets by climbing into the cockpit of a flight simulator.

Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson was among those who experienced the cutting-edge technology, even practising landing and taking off from a computer-generated HMS Queen Elizabeth.

He was guided through the process on Wednesday by Squadron Leader Andy Edgell and Lieutenant Commander Adam Hogg, two of the UK’s F-35 pilots putting the jet through its paces in the US.

Speaking after flying in the simulator, at an event at the Institute for Engineering and Technology in London, Mr Williamson said: “These pioneering stealth jets will protect British lives as we face intensifying and evolving threats at home and abroad.

“The F-35 is the most advanced and dynamic fighter aircraft in our history, and will defend this country from terrorists, collect crucial intelligence, and safeguard our national interests from those who seek to do us harm.”

The UK’s £9.1 billion programme to buy 48 of the F-35’s, the world’s most advanced fighter jet, over the next decade, has come under fire over capability and expense.


https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/defence-secretary-mps-and-us-ambassador-try-their-hand-at-flying-an-f35-jet-36500664.html
 
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Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:34 pm

What we need is a plan, not delusions

Excessive expectations have also arisen in terms of the strategic gains that Athens can secure in return. There is talk about buying a small number of F-35 fighter jets or the acquisition of secondhand F-15s.

Greek-American lobby officials with knowledge of Congress’s and the Pentagon’s intentions say that expectations of this magnitude are unlikely to be matched, while adding that “Greece cannot be a new Israel for the United States. They are two completely different cases.”

Nevertheless, relations between the two countries in the area of defense are at a very good point.

http://www.ekathimerini.com/224979/opinion/ekathimerini/comment/what-we-need-is-a-plan-not-delusions

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Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos