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Salvageable B-29 in China Lake?

Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:40 am

Last night, I think I made a rather interesting discovery looking through China Lake on Google Maps. Originally, I was trying to look for just random planes sitting out in the desert but to my surprise, I found this squared off section with a couple of planes that I could somewhat recognize such as an F-14 but what really stuck out to me was that there were two remainders of B-29s. One has half of the fuselage missing with one intact wing and a third of the other wing missing while the other one has an intact fuselage with roughly a third of both wings missing (just after the engines) and intact horizontal stabilizers and tail (The tail is hard to tell but I could see a bit of the tail rising out of the engine.

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Re: Salvageable B-29 in China Lake?

Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:30 am

No F-14, that is an F-111. Can also see I think a Vigilante, E-6, an F-8 and a few others. I'm not convinced that is a B-29 either.
 
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Re: Salvageable B-29 in China Lake?

Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:53 am

It's not a B-29, it's a C-97 or KC-97.

The other one is a B-29, but it's in considerably poorer condition.
 
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Re: Salvageable B-29 in China Lake?

Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:01 am

I suspect the B-29s are long gone. My money says it's a B-50.
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Re: Salvageable B-29 in China Lake?

Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:54 pm

Ozair wrote:
No F-14, that is an F-111. Can also see I think a Vigilante, E-6, an F-8 and a few others. I'm not convinced that is a B-29 either.


The F-14 is the one with the with the wings closed (I think)
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Re: Salvageable B-29 in China Lake?

Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:56 pm

zanl188 wrote:
I suspect the B-29s are long gone. My money says it's a B-50.


If it's a B-50, I'd jump with joy because I'd love to see a sixth surviving and only flying B-50.
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Re: Salvageable B-29 in China Lake?

Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:22 pm

China lake was a big B-29 salvage area during the 60s to early 90s. Dozens of derelict[url][/url] B-29s were stowed there although they used some for target towing and other activities at the Naval Weapons Test Center. Most were eventually chopped up, but a few were saved and used as targets at the various ranges around China Lake.

The B-29 with the and aft fuselage chopped off, was called '"Here's Hopin" s/n 44-69729. You can find pictures of it and other info at: http://www.chinalakealumni.org/B-29/B29mo.htm

The recent completion of the restoration of the B-29 "Doc" was also parked there not far from "Here's Hoppin". It made it's first flight I believe just a few months ago since being taken out of the desert.

I have to agree with a previous poster that the northern most 4 engine aircraft does not quite look like a B-29 although there is an anomaly in the trailing edge of the wings image. Hard to tell. Here's a closer view:
http://www.google.com/maps/place/Naval+Air+Weapons+Station+-+China+Lake/@35.6774916,-117.6767169,133m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c1124b2c5e64d5:0xba9250134ea239e8!8m2!3d35.6890073!4d-117.6833066?hl=en

And Ozair is correct that is a F-111. However if you go here:http://www.google.com/maps/place/Naval+Air+Weapons+Station+-+China+Lake/@35.7319905,-117.572194,270m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c1124b2c5e64d5:0xba9250134ea239e8!8m2!3d35.6890073!4d-117.6833066?hl=en which is about 6 miles NE, you can count 9 F-14 airframes.
 
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Re: Salvageable B-29 in China Lake?

Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:24 am

RetiredWeasel wrote:
China lake was a big B-29 salvage area during the 60s to early 90s. Dozens of derelict[url][/url] B-29s were stowed there although they used some for target towing and other activities at the Naval Weapons Test Center. Most were eventually chopped up, but a few were saved and used as targets at the various ranges around China Lake.

The B-29 with the and aft fuselage chopped off, was called '"Here's Hopin" s/n 44-69729. You can find pictures of it and other info at: http://www.chinalakealumni.org/B-29/B29mo.htm

The recent completion of the restoration of the B-29 "Doc" was also parked there not far from "Here's Hoppin". It made it's first flight I believe just a few months ago since being taken out of the desert.

I have to agree with a previous poster that the northern most 4 engine aircraft does not quite look like a B-29 although there is an anomaly in the trailing edge of the wings image. Hard to tell. Here's a closer view:
http://www.google.com/maps/place/Naval+Air+Weapons+Station+-+China+Lake/@35.6774916,-117.6767169,133m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c1124b2c5e64d5:0xba9250134ea239e8!8m2!3d35.6890073!4d-117.6833066?hl=en



And Ozair is correct that is a F-111. However if you go here:http://www.google.com/maps/place/Naval+Air+Weapons+Station+-+China+Lake/@35.7319905,-117.572194,270m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c1124b2c5e64d5:0xba9250134ea239e8!8m2!3d35.6890073!4d-117.6833066?hl=en which is about 6 miles NE, you can count 9 F-14 airframes.



Well someone did say in the comments that there was a possible chance the 4 engine aircraft is a B-50 but the only reason I assumed it was B-29 was because of the nose on the cockpit which has a somewhat similar appearance to a B-29's but again, B-50's and B-29's are pretty much the same except for a few differences.
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Re: Salvageable B-29 in China Lake?

Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:43 am

Benjuhman wrote:
The F-14 is the one with the with the wings closed (I think)

The fuselage is different between an F-14 and an F-111 but the real giveaway is the single vertical stab.
 
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Re: Salvageable B-29 in China Lake?

Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:40 am

Ozair wrote:
Benjuhman wrote:
The F-14 is the one with the with the wings closed (I think)

The fuselage is different between an F-14 and an F-111 but the real giveaway is the single vertical stab.


Oh. I wish I realized that earlier now that I think about it.
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Re: Salvageable B-29 in China Lake?

Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:40 am

As I said earlier, the more complete aircraft with the tail still attached is a C-97 or KC-97 - it is in-fact KC-97 Stratofreighter s/n 52-2669.

Not a B-29, not a B-50.
 
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Re: Salvageable B-29 in China Lake?

Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:07 pm

moo wrote:
As I said earlier, the more complete aircraft with the tail still attached is a C-97 or KC-97 - it is in-fact KC-97 Stratofreighter s/n 52-2669.

Not a B-29, not a B-50.


Crap. Wish I realized that earlier.
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Re: Salvageable B-29 in China Lake?

Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:09 pm

I would suspect that anything salvageable on pretty much any B-29 (in any shape) at China Lake has already been picked clean by the FiFi and Doc crews ...
 
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Re: Salvageable B-29 in China Lake?

Thu May 11, 2017 11:29 pm

According to those I know who worked on Doc here in Wichita, there are no more salvageable B-29s left in the world.
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