moo wrote:And what does Argentina expect from this posturing, other than coming across as antagonistic?
A prosecutor in Argentina asked a judge on Wednesday to open an investigation into allegations President Mauricio Macri improperly granted routes to Colombia's Avianca airlines, which recently purchased a company from his family.
Prosecutor Jorge Di Lello asked a judge to allow the probe of Macri, his father Franco Macri, and presidential aide Fernando De Andreis. They are accused of crimes including defrauding the state and influence peddling.
TWA772LR wrote:Sidebar, what would the Argentinians actually do with the Falklands that the British aren't doing now (if they actually were to acquire them through peaceful or forceful means)? To my understanding, there isn't much there...
angad84 wrote:TWA772LR wrote:Sidebar, what would the Argentinians actually do with the Falklands that the British aren't doing now (if they actually were to acquire them through peaceful or forceful means)? To my understanding, there isn't much there...
They are needed for strategic sheep purposes...
https://youtu.be/6omQ5JjjLsE?t=436
Dutchy wrote:angad84 wrote:TWA772LR wrote:Sidebar, what would the Argentinians actually do with the Falklands that the British aren't doing now (if they actually were to acquire them through peaceful or forceful means)? To my understanding, there isn't much there...
They are needed for strategic sheep purposes...
https://youtu.be/6omQ5JjjLsE?t=436
What is the claim of Argentina on the Falklands? As I understand it Argentina never owned the Falklands. And I even think the UK were the first to have settlers there.
Dutchy wrote:angad84 wrote:TWA772LR wrote:Sidebar, what would the Argentinians actually do with the Falklands that the British aren't doing now (if they actually were to acquire them through peaceful or forceful means)? To my understanding, there isn't much there...
They are needed for strategic sheep purposes...
https://youtu.be/6omQ5JjjLsE?t=436
What is the claim of Argentina on the Falklands? As I understand it Argentina never owned the Falklands. And I even think the UK were the first to have settlers there.
TWA772LR wrote:Dutchy wrote:angad84 wrote:
What is the claim of Argentina on the Falklands? As I understand it Argentina never owned the Falklands. And I even think the UK were the first to have settlers there.
I know a lot of the Falklands War was for Argentina to show it had clout in the world by trying to pick on a major world power. My high school history teacher actually claimed that Argentina could probably bought the islands from the British because of all the nothing that is there. I can see their mindset being, "These islands are so far away from London, and there's nothing there. Let's flex our muscles to show how serious we are." Well, when you attack a nuclear power that has trained for the past 35 years to annihilate another nuclear power, a swift and decisive defeat is guaranteed.
They have an interesting history. Settled by the French and British, then Spain kicked them out, then the British came back and held off Argentina (in the 1800s), Spain, and even Germany in WWI.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... nd_Islands
The Brits are supposedly looking for oil around the islands too, today.
Dutchy wrote:What is the claim of Argentina on the Falklands? As I understand it Argentina never owned the Falklands. And I even think the UK were the first to have settlers there.
VSMUT wrote:Dutchy wrote:What is the claim of Argentina on the Falklands? As I understand it Argentina never owned the Falklands. And I even think the UK were the first to have settlers there.
Actually, France was the first country with settlers there, with the British moving in the year after. Then France ceded the islands to Spain, who kicked out the British. Then the Spanish empire broke up, and Argentina inherited the Falklands. The Falklands were inhabited by a small colony of Argentines, but when Argentina started confiscating US fishing vessels, the USS Lexington retaliated by evicting all Argentine settlers on the Falklands and burning the settlement. The British then resettled the islands immediately islands after that and have been there ever since.
johns624 wrote:I've read quite a bit on the Falklands War and learned something new recently. One author (ex-military) claimed that the main reason that the Brits took the invasion so seriously was because of the Russians. Remember, at that time the Cold War was in full bloom. With the UK being the 3rd most powerful member of NATO, if they did nothing, it would give the Russians the idea that they had more options in Europe because the Brits weren't resolute.
VSMUT wrote:johns624 wrote:I've read quite a bit on the Falklands War and learned something new recently. One author (ex-military) claimed that the main reason that the Brits took the invasion so seriously was because of the Russians. Remember, at that time the Cold War was in full bloom. With the UK being the 3rd most powerful member of NATO, if they did nothing, it would give the Russians the idea that they had more options in Europe because the Brits weren't resolute.
Only partially true. It wasn't the Russians in particular, but just as much any nation interested in taking over some British colony, possession etc. It was just as much a signal to the US State Department who sided with Argentina in 1982, and who eagerly backed the Guatemalan plans to annex British Honduras in 1972, as well as sending a signal to the entire world that the UK was to be taken seriously.
BTW, a curious note that some books have noted is that Soviets may actually have helped the British during the Falklands. Pretty early on in the war before the British navy had even set sail, the Argies got a submarine scare when they detected one operating near the Falklands. A Soviet representative to the UN hinted at that being a Soviet action. The USSR didn't have a very fond relationship with Argentina either.
olle wrote:Right now Argentina waits for the UK-EU negotiations to see if UK will move to WTO rules. They wait happily for that negotiations...
TWA772LR wrote:I know a lot of the Falklands War was for Argentina to show it had clout in the world by trying to pick on a major world power.
tommy1808 wrote:TWA772LR wrote:I know a lot of the Falklands War was for Argentina to show it had clout in the world by trying to pick on a major world power.
...and they where not expecting a reaction from the UK, considering they just aborted starting a war with Chile after realizing that would be costly, if they could even manage to win.
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Thomas