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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:30 pm

Stitch wrote:
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Thats a plus for Germany, but its not a plus for Airbus, and my point is that Airbus may not want to get into bed with Germany on something else that they can complain about... :)


So what, Germany buys the KC-46A? :rotfl:


Luftwaffe would be equally annoying buying US stuff. ;)
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:49 am

Stitch wrote:
moo wrote:
Thats a plus for Germany, but its not a plus for Airbus, and my point is that Airbus may not want to get into bed with Germany on something else that they can complain about... :)


So what, Germany buys the KC-46A? :rotfl:


Can not do, impossible to buy something that never gets finished.
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:36 pm

Norway and Germany join the European tanker pool:

Norway, Germany sign MOU to join European refueling plane fleet using Airbus A330 tankers -- fleet to grow to 7 planes


https://twitter.com/R_Wall/status/880413892656209920
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:20 pm

And here is the press release:

Germany and Norway officially joined the European/NATO program to acquire Airbus A330 Multi-Role Tanker Transport aircraft along with Netherlands and Luxembourg.

...

The first two aircraft have already been ordered to be delivered from Airbus Defence and Space’s tanker conversion line at Getafe near Madrid in 2020. Five additional aircraft will now be ordered, and that order will include options for up to four further aircraft.


http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-re ... bourg.html
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:32 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
And here is the press release:

Germany and Norway officially joined the European/NATO program to acquire Airbus A330 Multi-Role Tanker Transport aircraft along with Netherlands and Luxembourg.

...

The first two aircraft have already been ordered to be delivered from Airbus Defence and Space’s tanker conversion line at Getafe near Madrid in 2020. Five additional aircraft will now be ordered, and that order will include options for up to four further aircraft.


http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-re ... bourg.html


Great news. The Norwegian Ministry of Defense made the decision a while back, but now it's formal. Seems like a great deal for smaller nations that need this capacity, but maintaining a small fleet of tanker-transports would be very expensive. I suppose the arrangement is very similar to the Strategic Airlift Capability operating the C-17s out of Papa Air Base in Hungary.
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:47 pm

Good news indeed. I think there's a good chance that the 4 options will be taken up. Plus additional.
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:06 pm

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Defence minister Jeanine Hennis-Plasschaert of the Netherlands, Defence minister Ursula von der Leyen of Germany, Secretary of State for Defense Francine Closener of Luxembourg and Defence minister Ine Marie Eriksen Søreide of Norway at signing
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:55 pm

Will they all be based at Eindhoven?
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:11 pm

Dutchy wrote:
Will they all be based at Eindhoven?


4 at Eindhoven, 3 in Germany https://www.defensie.nl/organisatie/luc ... -transport (in Dutch)
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:33 pm

Joolde wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Will they all be based at Eindhoven?


4 at Eindhoven, 3 in Germany https://www.defensie.nl/organisatie/luc ... -transport (in Dutch)


Thanks. So Belgium in 2018 will join, or sign a MOU at least. There should be more than seven craft. Where in Germany will they be based?

Investment for The Netherlands is within the bandwidth of 250m - 1bn (!), no shit, Ministry of Defense :D
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:13 am

Dutchy wrote:
Joolde wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Will they all be based at Eindhoven?


4 at Eindhoven, 3 in Germany https://www.defensie.nl/organisatie/luc ... -transport (in Dutch)


Thanks. So Belgium in 2018 will join, or sign a MOU at least. There should be more than seven craft. Where in Germany will they be based?

Investment for The Netherlands is within the bandwidth of 250m - 1bn (!), no shit, Ministry of Defense :D


The current 4 German A310MRTT are stationed at CGN, Wahn airbase. The frames are also used for transport operations as well as for the German government and are part of the EATC fleet.
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:23 pm

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Defence minister Jeanine Hennis-Plasschaert of the Netherlands, Defence minister Ursula von der Leyen of Germany, Secretary of State for Defense Francine Closener of Luxembourg and Defence minister Ine Marie Eriksen Søreide of Norway at signing


Cool pic... But

Better pic! :biggrin: (from Wikimedia)

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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:31 pm

Well this long range shot (airbase perimeter in Italy) cannot match the above for clarity, however when seeing it 6 years ago, I thought 'a 21st Century Boudica getting into a modern chariot'.
(Or in reality, Flt Lt Helen Seymour RAF).

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article ... 025552.jpg
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:18 pm

G'day

With the German air force being able to keep about a tenth of whatever they have bought operational that would be good news for Airbus. Say they need 5 tankers available reliably for vital operations they would have to order 50 units to achieve that goal, close to one year A330 production at present rates. Clearly they will blame Airbus for all their maintenance, logistics, political and other problems as they are doing with the A400, their choppers and whatever else they try to keep flying. Seems to me that no one else flying those same aircraft has problems to the same extent. The Germans even complain about the performance of the H+K rifles they bought and accepted per their own specifications (after years of usage they detected the rifles become less accurate as the barrel gets hot / has anyone heard of a gun where that is not the case?) - err, that's the army of course and not the air force. :crazy:

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Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:56 am

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G'day


One person: Ulla von der Lügen.

US think tank aligned and busy spending each of her changing ministries budget on PR to vie people into thinking that she does good work.
and additionally completely "Belehrungsresistent." ( no wonder: that would take away from her underhanded hidden agenda.)
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:01 pm

First French Air Force A330 MRTT (MSN 1735) completed conversion work at Getafe:

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https://twitter.com/AirbusDefence/statu ... 5976403968
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:24 pm

Former QF VH-EBH has been converted to MRTT:

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RAAF MRTT039 (A39-006) by galenburrows, on Flickr
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:25 pm

Does the MRTT also go through all the rework like the KC-46A? EMP hardening etc?
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:37 pm

Another angle of the first French Air Force A330 MRTT during a test flight above Toulouse:

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First French MRTT by José Luis Celada Euba, on Flickr
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:31 pm

Which aircraft of the French Airforce uses a boom? E-3? More? Or did they order it with a boom to be more flexible for other NATO a/c.
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