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Re: A400M Update

Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:21 am

Problem? No problem. Just a discussion largely triggered by #419 above.
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Re: A400M Update

Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:56 am

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Yes, so? Military hardware is also a source of innovation money spend locally. You have seen it with the KC-45 saga, unacceptable for US politicians that the European a/c was chosen. So what is the problem here?


The "problem" is the 17 million posts here stating that capacities of one aircraft over the other was/is the driver behind the choices made in the US-tanker or the EU-transport competitions.

Personally, as a taxpayer I would not mind governments buying tried-and-tested off-the-shelf products from an ally, but I understand that sometimes in the long term it is better to "overspend" on a new local product to drive home-town innovation.

Let's just call a spade a spade.
 
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Re: A400M Update

Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:13 pm

Dutchy wrote:
Yes, so? Military hardware is also a source of innovation money spend locally. You have seen it with the KC-45 saga, unacceptable for US politicians that the European a/c was chosen. So what is the problem here?

There is no problem with it, as long as you recognize it. You also have to recognize that in addition to internal innovation/success, you can have internal failures in the development and that not every program setback is the result of some grand foreign conspiracy against the program.
 
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Re: A400M Update

Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:14 pm

Slug71 wrote:
Slug71 wrote:
GRIVely wrote:
Any A400M's involved in Caribbean hurricane relief? Seems like it would be a good mission for them.


Yup. RAF has been sending them to the Caribbean.
Seen on twitter.


http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41213399


Looks like the French have also sent at least one over too. Saw a clip on twitter where a Puma helo and other supplies were being unloaded.


Just seen a post on Twitter that German A400Ms are assisting the Dutch in the Caribbean too.
 
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Re: A400M Update

Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:39 pm

Slug71 wrote:
Slug71 wrote:
Slug71 wrote:

Yup. RAF has been sending them to the Caribbean.
Seen on twitter.


http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41213399


Looks like the French have also sent at least one over too. Saw a clip on twitter where a Puma helo and other supplies were being unloaded.


Just seen a post on Twitter that German A400Ms are assisting the Dutch in the Caribbean too.


Nice to see the EU members helping each other out.
Many happy landings, greetings from The Netherlands!
 
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Re: A400M Update

Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:17 pm

This current spate of operations will help show just how desirable it is to have a mixed fleet of capabilities. ALL the transport aircraft, working together.

The bigger, long ranged C-17 and A330 Voyagers, to shift in bulk. A400M and Hercules to get the supplies and capabilities into needed locations. Anyone who is splitting hairs and going "mine is bigger than yours!" isn't getting the lessons of this disaster, which are that the whole cross-platform and cross-national fleet can work together in harmony leveraging individual abilities of the aircraft where needed.

I would like to see more C-17s in the mix but too late now. They are desirable but also a little expensive so orders were limited. McDD offered to build the RAF a C-17K with RB211-535E4 engines at one stage....
 
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Re: A400M Update

Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:26 am

The program reaches a new milestone as Airbus is delivering its 50th A400M aircraft today.

Airbus A3400M -180 54 54+11 Luftwaffe delivery 27sep17 SVQ-ETNW ex A4M054
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Re: A400M Update

Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:40 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
The program reaches a new milestone as Airbus is delivering its 50th A400M aircraft today.

Airbus A3400M -180 54 54+11 Luftwaffe delivery 27sep17 SVQ-ETNW ex A4M054


Congrats to the Luftwaffe and Airbus. Wonder if this frame includes the "Pack 2" PGB?
 
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Re: A400M Update

Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:44 am

MSN 59 has been delivered:

Airbus A400M -180 59 54+13 Luftwaffe delivery 29sep17 SVQ-ETNW ex A4M059
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Re: A400M Update

Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:02 pm

Funnily enough the SAAF rated the C160 better than the C130 during the 20 year Border War.
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Re: A400M Update

Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:14 pm

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Funnily enough the SAAF rated the C160 better than the C130 during the 20 year Border War.

I think it really depends on what you use for which mission. We can easily sort some of the modern transporters by size, and therefore capability. On the low end we have the C235 and the C-5 on the other. For troop insertion/extraction and supplies the smaller, more versatile frame is obviously better suited. For transoceanic invasions you really want the largest you can get. It does not surprise me that the SAAF preferred the simpler, smaller C160 in their regional conflict. Similarly, the A400 may work in one place (Germany) but does not meet the requirements of another (USA).
 
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Re: A400M Update

Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:36 pm

French A400M flies first operational mission (tactical) to Niger

A French air force A400M transport aircraft has carried out its first operational mission to Niger, carrying helicopters, freight and personnel directly from France onto a semi-prepared dirt landing strip.


http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?o ... Itemid=110

And,

Airbus defense unit freezes capex, may miss cash goals

Airbus Defence and Space has frozen capital spending and urged its 34,000 staff to take “drastic measures” to save cash as it faces the prospect of missing 2017 cash targets by hundreds of millions of euros, according to a memo seen by Reuters.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-airb ... SKBN1CA0RY

And,

Thales to supply additional A400M flight simulators for French and German forces

Thales has been contracted by Airbus to supply additional A400M full-flight simulators (FFS) for the French and German airforces. The two new simulators will be used to train A400M crews in complex missions such as in-flight refuelling and low-level tactical operations in a safe environment.


http://www.airforce-technology.com/news ... ry-5941585
 
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Re: A400M Update

Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:39 pm

Pioneers: MTU and German Armed Forces Conclude Maintenance Framework Agreement to Support the TP400-D6 Engine for the A400M Fleet


http://www.aviationpros.com/press_relea ... 400m-fleet

Hopefully this will help keep their A400M's in the air.
 
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Re: A400M Update

Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:04 pm

Next delivery:

Airbus A400M -180 58 ZM416 Royal Air Force delivery 17oct17 SVQ-BZZ ex A4M058
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Re: A400M Update

Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:42 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Next delivery:

Airbus A400M -180 58 ZM416 Royal Air Force delivery 17oct17 SVQ-BZZ ex A4M058


That was quick. Two weeks after the last delivery!
 
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Re: A400M Update

Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:52 pm

It seems very difficult to determine the first flight dates for the A400?
 
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Re: A400M Update

Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:38 pm

Next delivery:

Airbus A400M -180 60 ZM417 Royal Air Force delivery 19oct17 SVQ-BZZ ex A4M060
What we leave behind is not as important as how we've lived.
 
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Re: A400M Update

Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:21 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Next delivery:

Airbus A400M -180 60 ZM417 Royal Air Force delivery 19oct17 SVQ-BZZ ex A4M060


Wow! This has to be the quickest run of deliveries? I'm guessing these birds were sitting around waiting for the PGB fix?
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