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Grizzly410
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Re: A400M Update

Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:12 pm

A French politic released a report on the French strategic airlift and a claim he made took my attention.

Il convient de mettre un terme définitif à l’illusion abondamment diffusée de « l’A400M, avion stratégique ».
Par sa capacité d’emport maximale (deux containers TC20 contre 11 pour l’Antonov 124), l’A400M avion ne peut être une solution pour le transport stratégique de fret. Il ne rivalisera jamais avec les gros porteurs, An-124 ou C5. Un Antonov 124 équivaut à 5 A400M


Rough translation, by me.
A400M is not a strategic airlifter and we need to stop consider it this way.
It can load 2 TC20 containers when an AN124 loads 11. It can't be a strategic airlifter. It will never compete against AN124 or C5. 1 AN124 lifts the same as 5 A400M.

http://www.francois.cornut-gentille.fr/ ... egique.pdf

I'm not sure why he see the needs to evaluate the airlift with TC20 containers. Is this a standard in military transport?
And this shouldn't come as a surprise that A400M is not in the same weight category than AN124 or C5, but claiming 1:5 when max payload come close to 1:3 seems exaggerated. Maybe range consideration change a lot the result and I'm not sure if the guy tries to manipulate numbers and discard A400M directly to suit his agenda (france too much dependent of the rusian/ukranian strategic airlift).

Any thoughts?
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Re: A400M Update

Thu May 18, 2017 6:21 pm

Any updates or news on this bad boy?
 
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Re: A400M Update

Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:48 pm

German AirForce received its 9th copy yesterday, MSN49 : 54+10
It's the 6th delivery of 2017.

Nothing more to report right now...
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Re: A400M Update

Thu Jun 01, 2017 4:22 pm

Grizzly410 wrote:
German AirForce received its 9th copy yesterday, MSN49 : 54+10
It's the 6th delivery of 2017.

Nothing more to report right now...


Regardless, thanks for the update, Grizzly410!
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Re: A400M Update

Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:00 pm

Grizzly410 wrote:
German AirForce received its 9th copy yesterday, MSN49 : 54+10
It's the 6th delivery of 2017.

Nothing more to report right now...


This won't speed up any time soon either as long as the German Air Force keeps refusing to take planes with tiny scratches on the painting of control panels. Makes you wonder if those people have ever seen how a military plane looks after its first mission. By the way, this same mentality causes the Berlin airport to be pushed back year after year. It's just ludicrous.
 
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Re: A400M Update

Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:59 am

aviationaware wrote:
This won't speed up any time soon either as long as the German Air Force keeps refusing to take planes with tiny scratches on the painting of control panels.
Believe it or not but although Germans are known for what you're describing, I heard they're not the pickiest A400M customer. (uncontested second, though)

I think you're wrong, GAF delivery are currently speeding up ! They will receive the most of 2017 delivery, already 2 and 7 more to come this year.
And I believe they're prepared for that because last month we saw MSN49 and its little sister MSN48 (both GAF) doing Customer Acceptance flights in the same period, indicating GAF have now two "acceptance team".

WhiIe I agree looking for scratches and cosmetic defect on military plane seems pointless, it seems to me that's part of the "game". I mean, the more the buyer team find defects the more it can negotiate discount, and as much as it can be ridiculous any scratch is a defect that can be negate by the OEM.
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Re: A400M Update

Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:27 pm

RAF is putting A400 crew through their low level training since early 2017, the Mach loop in Wales.

https://youtu.be/09l-Wc_33fk?t=2m2s
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Re: A400M Update

Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:56 am

Are all the missing capabilities still on track to be completed by next year?
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