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Quoting KarelXWB (Thread starter): there are 179 KC-46 Tankers and about 50 other 767 aircraft in backlog. With a production rate of 2 frames per month, the 767 line will be open for the next 10 years. |
Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 1): It will be good seeing these here in New Hampshire in several years' time. |
Quoting awacsooner (Reply 2): I thought these were gonna be assembled at Tinker |
Quoting KarelXWB (Thread starter): Employees in Wichita recently began production on the first Boeing KC-46 Tanker parts, destined to be integrated into the forward fuselage section of the aircraft. |
Quoting KarelXWB (Thread starter): Here are some interesting numbers: there are 179 KC-46 Tankers and about 50 other 767 aircraft in backlog. With a production rate of 2 frames per month, the 767 line will be open for the next 10 years. |
Quoting redflyer (Reply 3): That's assuming no more orders come in |
Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 8): If this program is executed anywhere near as efficiently as the P-8 Poseidon program, follow on orders shouldn't be a problem at all. |
Quoting bikerthai (Reply 9): Yes and no. The P-8 does not have a real competitor. The KC-46 does. And as been discussed previously, foreign air forces may have different requirements that may drive them to a larger A330 |
Quoting bikerthai (Reply 9): The P-8 does not have a real competitor |
Quoting Stitch (Reply 11): Israel is a pretty safe choice as well, I would think, to replace their 707 tankers with the KC-46. |
Quoting Stitch (Reply 13): Ah yes, forgot about the one IAI is doing for Columbia. So yes, an IAI KC-767 makes sense. |
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 14): Israel is getting KC-135Rs from the USAF. |
Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 10): Lockheed Martin has proposed new build P-3s both to the U.S. Navy as well as international customers. |
Quoting cargotanker (Reply 15): Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 14):Israel is getting KC-135Rs from the USAF. Any more info out there on this? How many KC-135s? When are they being delivered? I read somewhere it was R models, so which US base has to cough up a few of their R models for the IDF? How much did they cost or was it a freebie? I haven't found much about this. |
Quoting cargotanker (Reply 15): I don't think the IAI 767 has a boom option, only wing pods. IDF needs a boom for its F-15s and F-16s. |
Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 10): Lockheed Martin has proposed new build P-3s both to the U.S. Navy as well as international customers. |
Quoting columba (Reply 16): Yes but the P3 even new build would be real competitor for the P8, too small and too old of a design. |
Quoting awacsooner (Reply 2): I thought these were gonna be assembled at Tinker |
Quoting TWAL1011727 (Reply 27): A Tinker - Tanker ? |
Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 26): The second tanker is in final assembly. http://boeing.mediaroom.com/Boeing-B...embling-2nd-KC-46A-Tanker-Aircraft |
Quoting cfmitch56 (Reply 33): Also wondering what the official Boeing civilian model designation will be... B767-2C? |
Quoting cfmitch56 (Reply 36): Anyone know if the KC-46 program has a customer code assigned to it? The C-32's are all second hand, and the P-8 and YAL-1 had their own program-specific customer codes. |
Quoting cfmitch56 (Reply 36): Anyone know if the KC-46 program has a customer code assigned to it? The C-32's are all second hand, and the P-8 and YAL-1 had their own program-specific customer codes. |
Quoting bikerthai (Reply 37): If I understand your question correctly, the customer code that Boeing Commercial Airplane assigns to these KC-46 would be similar to the ones assigned to the P-8 which is designated to The Boeing Company. This is because the frame is delivered to Boeing Defense System which does the the Mission Installation before delivering to the Air Force. |
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 17): Israel may also want receptacles installed to take on fuel from the IDF KC-707s. |
Quote: Boeing [NYSE: BA] officially began assembling the second KC-46A Tanker this week as workers loaded the aircraft’s wing spar into an Automated Spar Assembly Tool. ... The first test aircraft is expected to roll out of the factory in January 2014, while the second is scheduled to leave the factory in March. Boeing plans to fly the fully provisioned tanker for the first time in early 2015 and make the first delivery in 2016. The company expects to build and deliver the first 18 KC-46As by 2017 and a total of 179 by 2027 if all options under the contract are exercised. “We’re exactly where we want to be right now,” said Maureen Dougherty, Boeing vice president and KC-46 Tanker program manager. “One year from now, all four test aircraft will be out of the factory, and the first two will be flying.” |
Quoting infiniti329 (Reply 39): USAF KC-135s can recive fuel via boom |
Quoting checksixx (Reply 43): Quoting infiniti329 (Reply 39): USAF KC-135s can recive fuel via boom No, they can't. |
Quoting garysted (Reply 23): Hopefully not complicating matters, but just to clarify what I said in the previous posts, but a very small number of USAF KC-135R's do have the boom receptacle fitted and are usually referred to as KC-135R/ARR's. I believe - and I'm sure some of the other posters could clarifiy - that it's only about 6/7 and they're all at McConnell. These were aircraft that were converted to other configurations and fitted for AAR, and were then converted back to the KC-135R standard. Again, I'm sure others have more detailed info. |
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 41): Actually all KC-135s can receive fuel inflight. The process is called reverse refueling and is only accomplished in an emergency. The Boom Operator makes a contact with a large/heavy receiver (B-52, other C-135 type, E-3, C-5, etc.), the receiver pressurizes his refueling system and the Boom Operator holds the retract lever slightly in the retract position to open the fuel by-pass valve and fuel is pumped only into the aft body fuel tank. The 'on-load' depends on how much fuel is in the forward body fuel tank so the aft CG limit isn't exceeded. Before the refueling the Boom Operator must compute how much fuel to on-load into the aft body fuel tank before the refueling is accomplished. Once fuel begins showing in the aft body tank, the pilot can begin burning that new fuel. |
Quoting checksixx (Reply 45): I'm aware of the previous discussions you mentioned...a small number compared to the fleet and the statement they can receive fuel via boom is NOT a commonly accepted practice. |
Quoting Aviaponcho (Reply 47): Wasn't it supposed to be 2 m longer than 767-200 ? |