And, check out the very final scene in the film, the shot where the camera rises above the T-tail and the movie ends. The MD-80 has different shaped elevators on the horizontal stabilizers; port and starboard are not identical. Was this actually a feature of the MD-80 or was something just slapped ...
Jump to postWow, so incredibly sad. I have never worked at an airport or around aircraft like this so I don't have the slightest clue, but is it possible that a human adult can be sucked into an engine at idle power (assuming it was at idle)? Even if it can, I'd imagine you'd literally have to walk right up to ...
Jump to postVery solid and well built the A320 is I agree, however I think the reason we see the aircraft mostly intact isn’t because of how it’s built, but more so because of how it hit the fire truck as well as how high the A320 sits off the ground. The wing mostly went completely over the fire truck breaking...
Jump to postSo just based on videos and the fact that the entire wing still appears to be attached, I think it was several key things that happened here. The fact that the A320 sits fairly high off the ground and the fire truck may have stayed completely under the wing. Had it been a lower plane like a 737 or s...
Jump to postWow, absolutely insane week in aviation and with all the camera out there these days anytime something like this happens you know there will be high quality footage. Always chilling to see stuff like this. I still can’t stop thinking of that B17 midair footage.
Jump to postI looked a numerous times and it looks like the strike is near the wing root. The forward fuselage and wing stay together and the tail breaks off, the join at the aft wall of the bomb bay being the break point. Yeah, here are the high res photos I was talking about. If you scroll down he posts them...
Jump to postAfter seeing all the videos, I initially thought that the collision more or less just split the B17 just aft of the wings and the pilots were well forward of the collision point. After seeing some very high resolution photos from in front of the aircraft, the B17's fuselage was destroyed nearly all ...
Jump to postQuestion: Is airshow choreography performance soley in coordination with the other pilots or is there also a master ATC that can at lease call out altitude similarities and impending similar anamolies into pilot headsets as added guidance?? I know that would cut into the rightfully earned ego of sk...
Jump to postHoly shit wtf!!! The last time I got this kinda feeling was when I saw that National Cargo 747 crash video. Absolutely insane and brutally chilling to see.
Jump to postMan o man. I’ve been into aviation all my life and know how well aircraft are built and how much they are designed to handle, but after seeing those two in cabin videos, if I had to go through that I don’t know if you’d ever get me back on an airplane. Absolutely insane what those pilots flew through.
Jump to postI dunno, looks bad ass to me and I was also never a huge fan of the mustard livery. All you guys nitpicking window frames or painted flap fairings.....who really cares, it doesn't have to be an exact replica. Just how AA didn't do exact replicas of their retrojets.
Jump to postAll mis-shaped and clumsy looking, so it's one of the reasons the 737 is not a particularly good looking airplane. So bottom line, the engines are critical to the overall look of a commercial airplane. Looks are subjective. I’ve always thought that the 737 NG and later models were very sleek lookin...
Jump to postSo do we have any ideas where he put it down yet? Actually landed it….crashed it into a field…or into a Walmart or whatever it was he was claiming?
Jump to postReplacing a wing on a passenger jet is not a small operation ... sure the manufacturer has a procedure for doing so (as well as all associated part #s you'd have to order) ... but time/effort/cost? It's like a bent frame on a car : you go buy a new/used car. So with that in mind, here's a question ...
Jump to postLove the quote above where a mechanic blames the pilots…..then video comes out showing they absolutely greased the landing lol. Try again buddy. Is there an actual video of the moment it actually touched down? because the video we see is just a little bit before the flare, and then the aftermath. Y...
Jump to postLove the quote above where a mechanic blames the pilots…..then video comes out showing they absolutely greased the landing lol. Try again buddy.
Jump to postWow, well that spotter landing video sums up that landing. Very nice landing and basically greased it down. So that eliminates a hard landing being a cause of the gear collapse.
Jump to postStrange that the in cabin landing video seems to not show the actual touch down. You see short final, then you can see the video resume after touchdown. That stinks as I really wanted to see if the gear collapse occurred because of a really hard landing. Anyone else notice the video seems to have cu...
Jump to postWow that was a pretty rough ride at the end there. Glad everyone is ok. At the start of the video it does appear the left wing is already fairly low or on the ground.
Jump to postNot gonna lie, that 767 “bandit” looks much nicer than that single stripe 787.
Jump to postOuffff, that must have been a rough experience. To be on an aircraft that had both engines and gear ripped off, rear section of fuselage cracked and crumbled, then to top it off throw some fire in there.
Jump to postI know as far as enroute airspace the busiest in the U.S. is by far the southeast. Atlanta, Jacksonville, and Miami centers are moving a LOT of aircraft. The amount of aircraft coming to and from FL is astonishing these days.
Jump to postThe right thrust reverser was visibly in use in the video, and the left engine had no reverser open. I noticed smoke from the wheels was being pushed back by the left engine. So hot take right here- what if the pilots treated both engines equally, and engaged both reversers in the flight deck and a...
Jump to postI’ve seen multiple times in this thread where people mention brakes “locking up”. Correct me if I’m wrong, but a wheel should never lock up on a commercial airliner correct? They have advanced anti-skid systems to prevent this. So here when we see all the smoke coming from the tires I assumed that’s...
Jump to postUsually asymmetric thrust isn’t much of a problem but in combination with other issues it might have contributed to the right turn. On this picture you’ll be able make out the right thrust reverser being deployed whereas the left one isn’t: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220408/e174c7af4a5186c9...
Jump to postInteresting, I wonder why it made that right turn into the ditch or if the hydraulic issue also effected the nose gear in some way, or if that was turned the entire time and it finally got traction which is what caused the turn. Too bad, that plane was so close to being stopped on the pavement. Glad...
Jump to postHow does a plane lose the trailing edge of a winglet in cruise?! Since whatever did that likely also cause the crash (the probability of losing the winglet and crashing for different, completely unrelated, reasons is so small we may well discard it I think) I wonder what event could cause this? Sep...
Jump to postLooking at the flight path pictures, I’m trying to wrap my head around how a commercial airliner the size of a 738 can go from a nearly vertical descent from cruise, back into a climb without essentially completely coming apart. You’d think to recover from that kind of speed and dive would take an i...
Jump to postIn reference to the thing about engine piece found 10km away. Major engine failures are probably pretty rare at this phase of flight right? Even if they didn’t start the initial descent yet, it would have not been at a very high power setting right?
Jump to postMore info from the 4th press conference: - A fragment of suspected aircraft wreckage was found 10km+ from the crash site, size about 130x10cm. - Wow, now that’s something new. Will be interesting to know what it is. Most likely the tail was ripped off. On the footage when it crashed it was shot fro...
Jump to postOne possibility does occur to me. If the pilot flying collapsed at the controls resulting in a nosedive. The other pilots managed, (after a struggle) to get him out of his seat. They then made a botched recovery and stalled the plane. Seriously, just stop with this. How many different collapsing on...
Jump to postNOBODY that I have seen on here has pointed out that the thing, on its own, isn't going to go straight down. As the airspeed increases in the dive, the natural tendency of the aircraft would be to start to nose-up, if no flight control inputs are made. There have been several posts. One person did ...
Jump to postOh my gosh, can we pllleeaasse stop posting the “is it possible” posts. Yes, at this point literally ANYTHING is possible.
Jump to postStudying the pictures a little more, does it look as if the explosion originated inside the front of the aircraft? In the nose section laying on the ground I’m seeing metal parts pushed outward. No clue if this was a device dropped or launched from another aircraft or not, but if it wasn’t, it almos...
Jump to postWell that video certainly confirmed everything. Very sad to see such a machine in that state, everything else about the war goes without saying. Surprised to see the fire stopped and appears to have been contained mostly in front of the wings. Who knows, maybe someday the fuselage (or the front sect...
Jump to postEdu2703, what are you seeing that I’m not in this quick clip? We already know it was damaged, but people keep throwing around the term “destroyed” and we don’t know if that’s the case yet, unless you’re seeing something I’m not.
Jump to postGlad to hear the AN225 is still in one piece, for now.
Jump to postCool story.. Back in the late 90’s I was in college at ERAU in Daytona. My mother worked for a major airline and I guess they had a 757 which was chartered from DFW to MCO. She called me since I wasn’t far in Daytona and said do you want to go for a ride? Without hesitation I hopped in the car and h...
Jump to postWe watch every Thanksgiving. Always been one of our favorites. As mentioned yes STL pretty much always had that many wide bodies. Anytime I flew through there the end of C (I believe it was) always had a 747 or two there, L1011's, and 767's. Then eventually 757's parked throughout as well. None avia...
Jump to postThe zero gravity 722 still flies regularly as far as I know from central FL area. Saw it on my radar scope the other day.
Jump to postThis is what I don’t get about this or the AmeriStar accident. It sounds like 60Kt wind is a problem. But in flight they encounter 500Kt airspeed. I know there has to be a reason the wind matters, but it doesn’t make sense to me. You can have a sheer of 100Kts in flight too, why wouldn’t that creat...
Jump to postWow, to me this seems like such a bad way to design this system to where wind can literally bend parts and cause this to happen. What blows my mind more is how has this issue not caused so many more takeoff accidents? With how many t-tail DC9/MD80/717 tails are stickin way up into the wind for decad...
Jump to postOk that’s pretty much what I assumed. Thanks for the info. So this one apparently didn’t fly for 10 months, and had significant work done somewhat recently. That seems downright negligent for this aircraft to attempted to be flown with passengers, some of them children? Wow
Jump to postIF it is true that the aircraft had not been flown in 10 months, is that normal for its first flight to be done with passengers? I’ll be honest if I boarded an aircraft and they told me this thing hasn’t left the ground in nearly a year I’d be a little concerned.
Jump to postDoes anyone know what’s up with the Virgin A350 that’s currently enroute from London to JAX? VS629
Edit: Disregard, a friend figured it out and told me the Jacksonville Jaguars played Miami in London.
This summer, we implemented the new metroplex routes in and out of Florida which look all beautiful on paper, but I’m in reality though have absolutely no room for disruptions. SIDs, STARS, and enroute airways are separated by 6 miles. Which the whole goal was to run essentially triple the amount o...
Jump to postThis really doesn't clear things up at all. "ZJX often gets backlash from the command center," sounds like "We're gonna show them this time, we'll just shut down." The bottom line is that ZJX was unable to provide service. When was the last time this happened? There have been AT...
Jump to postEverything people are hearing about a "walkout" at ZJX or whatever is nothing more than rumors and simply not true. On Friday ZJX experienced a very difficult day due to many factors, some of which were mentioned above. Staffing has been low around the country, some facilities worse than o...
Jump to postYeah that’s not pretty. The amount of stress that wing had to have taken to make the entire plane twist to the left like that must have been pretty extreme. No clue what those pilots were looking at because it certainly wasn’t the area around them.
Jump to postAbsolutely incredible! I cannot for the life of me figure out how that damage was done to the Metroliner and didn’t take out the entire tail section. I’d love to see exactly what orientation that Cirrus was in to be able to carve out a chunk like that, but manage to leave the tail mostly untouched.
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