I know Dassault probably doesn't want to get back into the airliner game for obvious reasons, but one wonders whether someone who had capital and the ability to quickly design a new wing might be interested in a license-built Falcon as a regional jet platform. The cabin dimensions work, it's a matu...
Jump to postI know Dassault probably doesn't want to get back into the airliner game for obvious reasons, but one wonders whether someone who had capital and the ability to quickly design a new wing might be interested in a license-built Falcon as a regional jet platform. The cabin dimensions work, it's a matur...
Jump to postThe Tu-104 might qualify, at least it was the first twin jet. It was first delivered to Aeroflot in 1956. The second twin jet ever to enter service was the Sud-Aviation Caravelle which entered service in 1959. The Tu-104 was slightly bigger than the Caravelle though. For most of its life, the Tu-10...
Jump to postThe Tu-104 might qualify, at least it was the first twin jet. It was first delivered to Aeroflot in 1956. The second twin jet ever to enter service was the Sud-Aviation Caravelle which entered service in 1959. The Tu-104 was slightly bigger than the Caravelle though. For most of its life, the Tu-10...
Jump to postReally surprised they haven't gone in already. DTW should've come before IAD, the fact that hasn't been the case makes me question whether it'll happen at all. Late to the party on this, but IAD-KEF has been one of FI's best routes to North America. Pre-pandemic it was 2x daily, often on 753 or 763...
Jump to postWe can’t sleep on PLAY, still a good chance DTW ends up with 2 airlines serving KEF (and beyond). They’re going to go where they find the money, and WOW showed competence at DTW. Really surprised they haven't gone in already. DTW should've come before IAD, the fact that hasn't been the case makes m...
Jump to postI've come to CHA a few times in the past few months and have noticed an SY flight (from Lexington, I believe). I can't find any more information about it, so I figure it's a charter or cargo? I find it pretty strange as I don't see anything about it but see an SY plane quite often It's likely for t...
Jump to postWatching the video, didn't it possibly hit TWO vehicles? There's one that looks to be hit by the left wing, but there's a second ground vehicle that appears to be on the same runway that disappears behind the right side of the plane and then into the smoke cloud, which is more consistent with the co...
Jump to postNah, their Delta lives are over. As victims in our American society, politics will be a wide open field for them. I find it almost unbelievable just how stupid people can be when it comes importing stuff like this. Granted we have a wide open floodgate for illegal/illicit drugs here in the US, alon...
Jump to postMakes sense. If NEA ruling proposes remedies/slot divestitures for example I would think AA/B6 can simply counter by proposing a smaller NEA whereby AA holds onto more of its slots and perhaps portions instead relegated to codeshares rather than domestic JV. The ploy might be to push final NEA reso...
Jump to postI do appreciate your insight and corrections! Since you have taken a stance that the gov't will take a hard, stringent look at this, what then in your opinion does B6 have going for it? And would NEA approval, approval that would give B6 added relevance like a major airline does in terms of frequen...
Jump to postOk, then. So by that logic: NEA will not be APPROVED That will be the litmus test of the administration. Wrong again, because that is not a Clayton Act case. It's not a merger. It's a Sherman Act Section 1 case, which has a different legal standard. The two cases have a business linkage - and the r...
Jump to postI agree, taking out a ULCC is a substantial risk as part of any merger proposal. B6 is counting on the hope that the DOJ will not pass on the opportunity to bring more substantial competition to the increasing market power of the US3 through a larger, full-service network created by the acquisition...
Jump to postAirlines wouldn't just eliminate economy fare buckets even if ULCCs now would become extinct. IMO there IS a market for economy tickets and some people are at the line of either traveling by air or driving or just want to know they travel as cheaply as possible. ULCCs didn't create that market, the...
Jump to postHopefully, Team jetBlue can make a compelling case that more competition is not always better, and in the case of aviation has led to negative consequences for many consumers. Competition among regional carriers has led to them effectively shutting down and leaving many smaller communities without ...
Jump to postI get how the DOJ wants to be pro-consumer and less pro-big business but in this case, if the merger fails the winners will be the big 4, not the consumer. And the “basic fare” product is offered by every airline in the USA so hard to see how consumers are forced to pay for more than what they need...
Jump to postIt's the standard argument most anyone in their position would lead with. But the standard counter-arguments - as you noted - are that NK is more of a "maverick" competitor (as the agencies love that term) than B6 and is therefore a competitive force far beyond its size and that more comp...
Jump to postThere is quite a bit of emotion involved in this proposed merger. If nothing else, it will show us definitively what the DOJ can, and cannot do, regarding mergers. The DOJ still has to win its case in court, no matter what they may have stated publicly. As far as I know, the parties haven't even co...
Jump to postI guess time will tell. Interesting that the DOJ allows their lawyers to share information on internet message boards.. but hey what do I know.. I suppose you didn't read my post above. But since you apparently think this is some state secret, here's the DOJ Antitrust Division head saying it public...
Jump to postNot only that but NK has barely any big presence in the NE. And the only real possibly “monopoly” that this merger would have would be in South Florida, where AA basically runs the airport down the road. The idea that the DOJ will protect consumers by keeping alive an ULCC is laughable. This is wha...
Jump to postI do 100% agree with you that nobody in this thread seems to remember Delta exists. They compete on every route that they can where B6 sees any success out of BOS/LGA/JFK, they have the largest presence of any US airline at JFK, an entire terminal at LGA (only carrier with that), second largest pre...
Jump to postThis merge will have disastrous effects for consumers and must be stopped. And for the first time, I’m pretty confident an airline merger will finally be stopped. I doubt it is ever approved. Sure, the DOJ allowed T-Mobile/Sprint the biggest phone companies to merge. Most recently WN/FL, but when B...
Jump to postWhy exactly is DL not mentioned? Given all the other major airlines that are, I don't see how DL would be left out. It's LCCs plus airlines with nearby hubs. DL's nearest hub is 800 miles away. This isn't the era for 800-mile flights on 50-seat RJs. Delta stopped flying ATL-GRK in January 2018. The...
Jump to postBoeing757100 wrote:Why exactly is DL not mentioned? Given all the other major airlines that are, I don't see how DL would be left out.
Mostly I’m trying to explore smaller cities that aren’t going to have any real connections elsewhere and aren’t hubs. Routes like LHR-CLT or Amman to DTW make sense given CLT and DTW are hubs and the passengers on these flights are likely to connect to another destination. Those aren’t really what ...
Jump to postFun link But useless since DOT was recognized by all parties as the authority to approve the NEA. Of course DOJ can still sue But they must feel a bit silly internally suing When they’ve allowed massively larger local market share dominance across the nation. It’s not a great precedent when you all...
Jump to postAny chance? Sure. Any realistic chance? No. As the poster above me noted, AA barely serves IAD. And some of those are downright silly: For example, DEN would compete with hub to hub on UA, plus WN (with its own huge base at DEN), plus UA and F9 on DCA. Some of the rest are 2,000 miles + with no appr...
Jump to postTo balance the argument there are of course many new markets AA entered that they wouldn't have otherwise. AA could probably prove that regardless of the NEA they would have discontinued JFK-LAS at one point, in fact it was already a route with an unstable history. I do wonder if the biggest thing ...
Jump to postWhat, did they try to avoid getting ripped off by a car salesman?
Awful crime, but sadly it's pretty commonplace in America these days. To be honest, I'm not even sure why this is national news at this point. We're past the shock value of children being shot for no reason.
If the finder of fact determines that AA and B6 have in fact coordinated to reduce output or divide markets - and there is at least some evidence that they have, starting with AA's decision to cut routes like JFK-LAS - that's it. They lose. As a matter of law, per se violations are not subject to a...
Jump to postMy point is that in many cases, flying to points west destinations other than the large airports like LAX, SFO, SAN requires a two stop trip as opposed to a one stop. Using Delta generally requires stops in ATL and SLC. AA usually requires stops CLT and DFW or PHX. UA generally requires stops in OR...
Jump to postDoes anyone actually believe the NEA will be able to survive this? It’s looking pretty bleak. I'll be interested to see what evidence the DOJ provides to prove the NEA itself is anti-competitive. So far everything they've proved is other actions are anti-competitive and shouldn't have been approved...
Jump to postIt’s a shame that Virginia thinks traveling is just limited to those in the Richmond Norfolk markets. Contrary to popular belief, the state does extend beyond the western border of Henrico County to Roanoke and points beyond. It would be nice to see a ROA - DFW segment from AA for those traveling t...
Jump to postIt’s a shame that Virginia thinks traveling is just limited to those in the Richmond Norfolk markets. Contrary to popular belief, the state does extend beyond the western border of Henrico County to Roanoke and points beyond. It would be nice to see a ROA - DFW segment from AA for those traveling t...
Jump to postJust curious... My dad witnessed two: The 1960 TWA and United collision in New York City, and a Dorado Wings crash off SJU in 1981. My mom also witnessed the Dorado Wings one. The former, well you all know it wasn't, mildly put, that good. The latter, thank God no one died. Oh and my aunt witnessed...
Jump to postI like WN and I do fly them, but here are the reasons I don't do so frequently: 1) WN doesn't serve my home city. It does fly extensively to my two backup options, which are both ~2 hour drives. 2) I fly a lot of TATL, and WN is useless for that. Further, that flying builds up a lot of loyalty with ...
Jump to postTalk about sticking your foot in your mouth. Without having any inside information here, I suspect he didn't have much choice but to admit those things on the stand. The DOJ has massive numbers of internal documents from both parties as a result of their subpoenas and he probably already admitted t...
Jump to postVasu Raja has some other interesting admissions American Airlines Group Inc.’s top commercial officer didn’t hold back at an antitrust trial focused on the carrier’s alliance with JetBlue Airways Corp.: Less competition has been a boon to the bottom line. “Consolidation has been good for us,” Vasu ...
Jump to postIf this deal falls through, what moves does AA have left in NY? They have an operation that is smaller than the other NY hub carriers and is barely profitable, if at all. Would AA cut their losses and redeploy these assets elsewhere (CLT DFW AUS)? Also a long shot, but maybe they trade their slots/...
Jump to postThe clothing thing is because most clothes are made in Asia. We also get them here in France (along with US high school, US college themed clothes), it's quite annoying, and I'm pretty sure it's copyright infringement. MLS in the US has a chance to grow because of latinos immigrating to the US, and...
Jump to postThe clothing thing is because most clothes are made in Asia. We also get them here in France (along with US high school, US college themed clothes), it's quite annoying, and I'm pretty sure it's copyright infringement. MLS in the US has a chance to grow because of latinos immigrating to the US, and...
Jump to postCompetitive reasons. If you think that PDX is odd you might want to add AUS, SAT and RDU to that list, similar position. "Competitive reasons" is pretty much a non-answer. It's a competitive industry. Everything is done for competitive reasons. RDU and PDX seem odder in UA's network for l...
Jump to postArcticFlyer wrote:AS has a lounge in JFK despite it being pretty much an outstation. My guess is they are trying to attract premium travelers to the west coast.
I can't be the only person seeing this thread and thinking even €1200 round trip for 21,000 km of flight is still ridiculously cheap.
Jump to postAll 29 gates wouldn’t be available until 2028ish, as that is when Concourse A is scheduled to be finished. There will still be 40 gates for everyone else, including a whole satellite concourse. That’s plenty of room for what other carriers will realistically do here. That's precisely my point, thou...
Jump to post29 gates would be a lot of real estate for a non-base station. I would be shocked if there was not a base here within the next 5 years. With Nashville's growth rate, it'd be a pretty appealing position to be in. I'm a little surprised so much new real estate is going to WN given the overall constra...
Jump to post29 gates would be a lot of real estate for a non-base station. I would be shocked if there was not a base here within the next 5 years. With Nashville's growth rate, it'd be a pretty appealing position to be in. I'm a little surprised so much new real estate is going to WN given the overall constra...
Jump to postNice job, Jshank. Some of those will be easy to move from the maybe column. For example, DL is a clear #1 at SAV and AA plus its regionals is also half again as big as WN is there.
Jump to postThe mistake in the first word of the thread title makes my head hurt. The plural of "airport" is not "airport's." Aside from that, there will be a fair number. Sometimes it will be hard to tell from public data because regionals aren't consolidated with their respective majors fo...
Jump to posthttps://viewfromthewing.com/new-chase-sapphire-lounge-coming-to-washington-dulles/ Given that this says it's going to be a two-story lounge, I would expect this to go in the old Etihad lounge space on A. It's fascinating how many credit card accessible lounges IAD has/will have, when an airport lik...
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