Re: Boeing’s Troubles

I don't want this to be true, it is too scary. That said, too much sounds like my own, (and doubtless other) industries. It sounds very plausible, and replicable in a lot of industries. That's why we must be cautious and, at the very least, remember that Boeing cannot provide a comprehensive respon...

Re: Boeing’s Troubles

If he is a current Boeing employee why didn.t he intervene or let the alarmbells go off.? Easy to stay on the sideline and do nothing and know step forward after this incident happened. Yeah he is a real hero now... IF this is legitimate/confirmed, it reads like someone who was involved in looking ...

Re: Open -fan windtunnel - RISE engine development

Does EIS mean available for full production or testing on a new airframe?

If flight testing begins in 2029, when can airline manufacturers expect to have actionable data to work with?

Re: Boeing NSA Discussion

So... The thesis of this thread is warmed over 737 bad, warmed over DC-9 good?

Re: JetBlue/Spirit Merger Discussion thread - 2024

What a bizarre scenario this sets up. Appeals are not "I don't like the verdict. Appeals are "something materially wrong with the proceedings created an incorrect outcome to this case." So if JetBlue does not appeal, they could be taken to court where they would have to argue that som...

Re: AS adds SEA-YYZ

Does YYZ have pre-clearance for US Customs?

Re: AS adds SEA-YYZ

This is FANTASTIC news.

Re: Alaska / Hawaiian Air Merger Discussion

Why the JetBlue-Spirit antitrust ruling doesn’t spell doom for an Alaska-Hawaiian merger https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/19/jetblue-spirit-ruling-alaska-hawaiian-merger.html President Joe Biden’s Justice Department has successfully halted one airline partnership and another planned merger. The decisio...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

But to be honest, the origins of the plug are a red herring. If there is a deficiency in the locking bolts, those weren't assembled by Malaysians at the Spirit factory here in Kuala Lumpur. I dunno. The thing seems pretty intact for something that was shot out of an aircraft at 16k feet. I kinda wa...

Re: JetBlue/Spirit Merger Discussion thread - 2024

Ummm, they're kind of busy with the Hawaiian Airlines thing... But they won't be in 3-5 years. I can absolutely see this happening... If Alaska Airlines successfully acquires Hawaiian Airlines and later decides to purchase JetBlue, it could be part of a strategic move to strengthen their presence a...

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet - 2024

hiflyeras wrote:

So does this mean we can stop talking about the Airbus aircraft? Moving on…

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

wjcandee wrote:

It was not immediately clear what caused the incident on Sunday and whether it was related to a manufacturing flaw."

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

The more I look at that door the more I think some ex-Audi engineer had something to do with it: way too complex. A simple reinforced plug mounted from the inside with 30-40 perimeter bolts sandwiching a seal would be simple and foolproof. This setup with jumped-up overcenter clamps... Yes, but tha...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

https://youtu.be/BPUGOFS0Dpg?feature=shared AS sent a link to this video of Ben Minicucci to me, and presumably all frequent fliers. Takaways: AS is committed to safety AS nay be grounding the -9 for awhile. Minicucci stated that the grounding will last until the findings on the accident have been c...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

The more I look at that door the more I think some ex-Audi engineer had something to do with it: way too complex. A simple reinforced plug mounted from the inside with 30-40 perimeter bolts sandwiching a seal would be simple and foolproof. This setup with jumped-up overcenter clamps... Yes, but tha...

Re: Alaska / Hawaiian Air Merger Discussion

Additionally, it appears that the deal between Amazon and HI gives Amazon the rights to purchase 15℅ of HI's stock. What will that mean for ALK if AS inherits the contract?

Re: Alaska / Hawaiian Air Merger Discussion

Upthread, there was a semi-consensus that the AS cost structure would likely make the HI/Amazon contract unprofitable. I'm trying to work this out since AS does not have any widebodies yet. Does the AS pilot contract have a clause for widebodies yet, or is that one of the things up for negotiation a...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

Bradin wrote:

Alaska Airlines gave $1500.00 with no strings attached.

Re: FAQ for incident threads

I do understand your point here though. These threads often become convoluted and difficult to follow, especially for causal users. And more to your point, people can be very unfriendly if there are questions or repeated information. It may be too late for this incident, but it's definitely worth d...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

SRQLOT wrote:

I was going to say a giant slap in the face too, but that is not enough. Need some Nuremberg trials involved with public punishments.

FAQ for incident threads

Would it be possible to reserve/add a page 1 FAQ for incident threads? A lot of the same information gets added to the thread multiple times. When the thread gets long (the AS1282 thread), this leads to unfriendly comments about things already being covered and equally unfriendly replies. An initial...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

. NOT "OMG Boeing needs to cancel the program!" or "Revoke the type certificate now!" Some of which has been posted in this very thread. Care to elaborate on this. I can't find either of those quotes, nor anything about your earlier claim that people here were calling for Boeing...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

In the Wichita factory, the door panel should not be cut if the airline option does not require an exit door. If the airline option calls for an exit door, then proceed to cut and install the exit door accordingly. It's as simple as that! Cutting a door hole and later patching and bolting it, if th...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

If this ends up being Boeing's fault 100%, and they even find the exact machinist/mechanic who messed this up, and let's assume he/she belongs to a union, what would his union do? Defend their member to death or give their blessing that he/she gets fired? I'm not in a field that's unionized, hence ...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

]The depressurization events likely has nothing to do with the plug door. The primary pressurization system failed. The secondary worked. That means the fuselage and it's ability to hold pressure was not the issue. True, but the public at large doesn't see it this way. They think "Pressure in ...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

Hmmmmm. Something I haven't seen mentioned is that there could be two independent issues here. The thing that caused the blowout of the plug could be independent of the loose bolts found on other aircraft. The NTSB hasn't said if any of the bolts on the starboard plug were found loose. My gut feel ...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

What sort of records are kept for faults found and fixed during regular maintenance?

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

mjgbtv wrote:

So I think the question is why are these not designed like a plug type door (#1 above)? Is it necessary for them to be able to open outward?

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

Also who lets a plane over land but not water? I am sure the NTSB will slow walk this but the lawsuits won't be. Again let us all be thankful nobody got sucked out. It's simple. The aircraft has redundant systems. If one is not working, the aircraft is safe to fly, but only within x number of minut...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

It'll be interesting to see if this works out to be the cause of the earlier pressure incidents. I'm just speculating and no expert, but if the door is pushed upward enough, perhaps the guide tracks forcing the door outward caused a small air gap leading to the earlier pressurization warning events...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

Going through all the pages, I am still confused. If we're to assume that the lower hinge bolts were not in place due to a manufacturing defect, then how did the aircraft fly for what, almost 2 months, without any issues whatsoever? Could it be that there was a fault with the cotter pin which ultim...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

I appreciate the press conference bullets. Thank you.

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

NTSB live stream just revealed that the cockpit door was designed to open during rapid decompression, but none of the flight crew were aware of that, and Boeing is going to make changes to the manual to mention that. Seriously, Boeing? Haven't you done enough of not telling pilots what to expect wi...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

John Ostrower has updated his story, noting that "Across the five [United] aircraft, there is little consistency in the locations of the errant parts." If true, this indicates QC problems throughout the installation of the plug doors. https://theaircurrent.com/feed/dispatches/united-finds...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

United found loose bolts in 5 of their https://theaircurrent.com/feed/dispatches/united-finds-loose-bolts-on-plug-doors-during-737-max-9-inspections/ Yikes. Seems like a Boeing/Spirit issue then. I’m not sure how they can be trusted. They’re going to need more than a short safety webcast to get tha...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

At the very least, I want the ETOPS certification pulled on all 737-MAX. Frankly, at this point, I want the type grounded permanently. But I know that's not realistic. I get what you are saying, but it is worth noting that the ETOPS certification program appears to have worked in this case. Whether...

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

Who actually installs WiFi? AS, or a contractor?

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

by738 wrote:

scbriml wrote:

I can't recall a single incident that has previously resulted in the grounding of an entire type

What about DC-10, 737-400, Concorde, MAX?

Re: Unconfirmed: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX

crownvic wrote:

Can somebody explain to me why all the emergency exit cards in the seat pocket say 737-8Max???

Re: American Airlines Network - 2024

STT757 wrote:

PHX-HNL-Nagoya.

Also LAS-HNL.

Re: American Airlines Network - 2024

I have a question about America West that does not deserve its own thread. Since American Airlines is the successor organization, this seemed a good place to go.

Re: State of Alaska Aviation 2024

While not as big of an impact on the ANC flights the cruise ship season in southeast keeps getting longer. April in Juneau can be ok, but October... it rains sideways. https://claalaska.com/?page_id=1551 The annual Glacier Bay flight... JNU-GST on AS, June 1 In Sitka, Allen Marine (Alaska Dream Cru...

Re: Japan Airlines A350 collides with aircraft at HND

BoeingVista wrote:

1100 degC / 30 min is the fire rating of CVR / FDR, the fire went on for over 2 hours so I guess we'll see.

Re: Alaska / Hawaiian Air Merger Discussion

AS Cargo's new 737-800 freighters, I vaguely remember a discussion about AS retaining the ETOPS certification for them and speculation as to what routes between AK and the Lower 48 would benefit. Was AS planning for the potential of increased cargo ops to Hawaii? Would a 737-800 Freighter have mean...

Re: Alaska / Hawaiian Air Merger Discussion

AS Cargo's new 737-800 freighters, I vaguely remember a discussion about AS retaining the ETOPS certification for them and speculation as to what routes between AK and the Lower 48 would benefit.

Was AS planning for the potential of increased cargo ops to Hawaii?

Re: When will Boeing finally consider ending the 737 family

As a long time Boeing pilot I was thinking about this subject the other day. What doesn’t get a lot of talk is the similar situation with Airbus over the last 30 years. Airbus has milked and tweaked the 320 program a lot better than Boeing has with the 737. The 320 has become the 318, 319, 320, 321...

Re: When will Boeing finally consider ending the 737 family

As a long time Boeing pilot I was thinking about this subject the other day. What doesn’t get a lot of talk is the similar situation with Airbus over the last 30 years. Airbus has milked and tweaked the 320 program a lot better than Boeing has with the 737. The 320 has become the 318, 319, 320, 321...

Re: Man Kicked Off DL for Offering to Fix Broken IFE?

"The same flight attendant who had ordered him back to his seat noticed Sangster writing the complaint" Really? She took so much interest in him that she decided to, what, sneak up behind him and look at what was on his phone? I wasn't there, I don't know, but I'm willing to guess that th...

Re: AS to acquire HA; operate as separate brand.

AS already owns the airport that could, in theory, do the Iceland Air model, and it won't work due to the range between ANC and most of Asia being beyond that of narrowbody aircraft. I fully expect some transfer traffic through Hawaii, as I will probably go to Australia that way once this is all sai...

Re: AS to acquire HA; operate as separate brand.

Taking profits from AS on HA network routes weakens the Seattle stronghold (would be the inevitable logic). Just wait until six or so of the B787s show up in AS colors, based in SEA, flying to HND, ICN, LGW, and so on. DL's already weak SEA hub would collapse. Since you often have intimation regard...