Did they actually ever codeshare? From my impression their relationship with SAS after they started routes to Scandinavia never was very cozy OSL did start in 2004, just after SAS cancelled their OSL-EWR route. When SAS restarted OSL-EWR, Continental didn't last long https://www.united.com/web/en-U...
Jump to postThe real answer why these are no longer operating is the introduction of the JV with LH/LX/OS/AC. It's not UA's decision alone anymore but a joint decision among the partners. I'm sure that LH preferred routing the secondary markets in Europe through FRA/MUC/ZRH rather than direct from EWR. Coupled ...
Jump to postYou forgot Continental left Skyteam for Star Alliance. No I didn't. Think about why CO left for Star.......... I think DL and EK’s relationship is already too far gone for them or fix it. That's because you're assigning human emotion to what would otherwise be a cold numerical calculation. Corporat...
Jump to postJust because DL or SkyTeam have not been able to get their act together doesn't mean alliances have a murky future. Of course, SkyTeam definitely has a murky future - every year at least one carrier wants to leave it. Nothing you just said there is based in fact. All three of the alliances have onl...
Jump to postYou sure do dish out a lot of criticism for other people's work. If you don't care for my data, just ignore it. I get my data from all public available sources with BTS. The load factor is passengers / seats for T-100. The connection % is based on the available fare data and total passenger count. ...
Jump to postHow do you calculate Load Factor? Also from MIT, "Load Factor. The number of Revenue Passenger Miles (RPMs) expressed as a percentage of ASMs, either on a particular flight or for the entire system. Load factor represents the proportion of airline output that is actually consumed. To calculate...
Jump to posti use average fare, load factor and connection % + connection fares. You don't have to believe what I say. The fact that AA has dropped so many markets out of JFK should tell you everything. My analysis has been remarkably good at anticipating which routes get dropped on jetblue and southwest netwo...
Jump to postAA is the weakest in NYC if you have seen the yield data from past 2 years I've been posting. Their yields ratio on various routes they compete with DL/B6 dropped 10% in 2 years against their competitors. That's why they were forced out of some key markets like SEA/SAN/LAS/MCO. All of which indicat...
Jump to postYes, but AA will have to shrink the most. AA has the most debt and weakest point of sale from NYC, so will have to cut capacity at its worst performing hubs (NYC/LAX) more than anyone else. As much as I dislike DL, I think they will consolidate their position in NYC coming out of this. AA is actual...
Jump to postVery sad to hear UA is going to shrink! It is surprising that UA management has no plan to enhance customer experience with COVID19 to get people back on their planes. I read yesterday that UA is making it harder to change flights during a schedule change. That is not a way to attract customers. Wh...
Jump to postNot surprised to see SFO hit hard. United has lost its Asian presence which helped support connections. Also, many tech companies are able to allow work from home in SFO and around the country. We are being allowed to work from home no questions asked so we do not need to travel or use planes. I th...
Jump to postThey operated 747's on EWR-LAX in the early 90s, and I'm pretty sure an NRT-SEA-LAX same plane service for a short time in the late 80s or early 90s. It was always an impressive sight to see the nose pull into the curved contours of gates 68 A and B at LAX. When CO was first awarded NRT from SEA, t...
Jump to postI'm pretty certain I flew a DC-10 to KUL at one point. I also flew the DC-10s many times between SFO and NRT. In addition, NW flew the 10s to BOM Yes, you are correct. In the mid nineties NW flew a DTW-AMS-BOM rotation on a DC-10 30. It didn't last very long. Maybe a year. I'm pretty certain they f...
Jump to postI'm pretty certain I flew a DC-10 to KUL at one point. I also flew the DC-10s many times between SFO and NRT.
In addition, NW flew the 10s to BOM
Lots of (deliberate) mischaracterising of BA short haul on here. They do buy-on-board in economy, and have (like all European carriers) economy style seating in Club Europe (with a blocked middle seat) because their average flight time is an hour (and max three hours — ATH, DME) and the competition...
Jump to postAt least United ( Continental?) managed to get SAS to shift from JFK to EWR EWR is Jersey :) I flew EWR-LHR in BA in ‘97, and the gate beside mine was an SK flight to CPH. So SK were flying to EWR long before CO joined Star, and while UA was operating to both EWR/JFK? Yeah, SK has been a long-time ...
Jump to postActually, for LGA they should extend the N train to LGA AND build Airtrain but to Jamaica. Once Airtrain is built from LGA Jamaica, a few of those trains can run non-stop between LGA and JFK. While not seemless you'd still have to go through security, LGA can then server as a sort of "domestic...
Jump to postI did work with Air Malta many years ago. They were run like a scheduled charter carrier. Something like 75% of their business was package tours. The majority of their direct sales traffic was grabbing lucrative Libyan traffic during the sanctions and snagging full fare Y tickets. I assume that's mo...
Jump to postOf course flights to Philippines is low yielding. Flights to all of Asia is low yielding thanks to CN3. When you can fly in business to MNL from NYC for $2500 round trip on CA, there is only so much the competition can charge. Having a few people only flying DL to MNL isn't suddenly going to make t...
Jump to postI am confused. Are you saying Delta made the most money (profit) in the 2nd quarter across the Pacific? If so, totally shocked. That is exactly what the numbers state. Collectively all the US carriers (including cargo) have lost money in the Pacific every quarter for three years now. But Delta has ...
Jump to postAt this stage, I highly doubt that SQ will be getting rid of the FRA stop until they have an aircraft with a more balanced cabin than the ULR that can fly SIN-JFK nonstop. They are hugely benefitting from the capacity on the FRA-SIN sector where they are in a JV with LH which also helps them fill u...
Jump to postI suspect these seasonal European adds are linked to Med cruises traffic. PMO, NCE, NAP, VCE, etc.
Jump to postI always found it perplexing that LX even left IAD back in 2003, it always seemed to be a huge whole in their network IMHO. In 2003, LX were losing money, and announced they were to join oneworld. The route then would have been just O/D, as there's have been little feed at IAD. The proposed oneworl...
Jump to postOf course they lose the ability of selling it because they already sold it. If the customer uses that ticket or not should be irrelevant to the airline. They sold it, they got their money. That's where it ends. Customer has the right, but not the obligation to use it. To the airline this should not...
Jump to postI'll state the obvious. They lose the ability to sell that downline booking, because it's reserved for someone who has no intention of using it. Of course they lose the ability of selling it because they already sold it. If the customer uses that ticket or not should be irrelevant to the airline. T...
Jump to postI plan to do this in a few weeks with my family. I booked a great fare in long haul J which involves 6 legs with segments 2-4 operated by a Star carrier on that airline’s ticket stock. However I want to skip the last leg (leg 6) on UA and I’ve booked a separate ticket on another carrier for the foll...
Jump to postExactly. The US3 is VERY risk adverse after 9/11 and I would doubt they would fly to a Muslim majority nation without significant J traffic. The only flights recently that the US3 flew were UA's flights to KWI/DXB/DOH out of IAD and DL's venture into DXB. Without significant J traffic the risk is n...
Jump to postEgyptAir is now non-stop from Cairo to both New York JFK and Washington Dulles and the route to Cairo has fairly strong demand nonstop from America. I'm aware of their IAD flight, but that doesn't really change the market realities of those two carriers. MS is trying to save their proverbial bacon ...
Jump to postI would assume Egyptair in particular must be doing good considering unlike KU, they fly to JFK nonstop, but KU still has the return nonstop and also on their new 77W's. JFK is also the sole US destination for both MS and KU, how are they doing loads wise? They are likely losing boatloads of money ...
Jump to postI would assume Egyptair in particular must be doing good considering unlike KU, they fly to JFK nonstop, but KU still has the return nonstop and also on their new 77W's. JFK is also the sole US destination for both MS and KU, how are they doing loads wise? They are likely losing boatloads of money ...
Jump to postI'm not sure what's weirder: the fact a U.S. carrier once flew to Iran, or that the same carrier also flew to Pakistan Times change. The US was propping up the Shah, and Pakistan, who was seen as a bulwark against them pesky commies Amd religious terrorism was pretty much unheard of. Not even remot...
Jump to postAlso, NZ isn't exactly an airline that could command enough J seats to even reach EWR, and if they did one-stop via LAX, they couldn't carry local traffic to New York...meaning a very empty plane on the LAX-New York sector as they have only one New Zealand destination---AKL (by contrast, NZ can lev...
Jump to postYou do realize your "Over France, Italy, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman, Pakistan to India avoiding Iranian airspace." flies over the Gulf of Oman which you earlier pointed out was off limits by the FAA. That’s only half true, the FAA order says the Gulf of Oman AND within Iran Airspace ,...
Jump to postIf UA wanted to operate a one stop flight they most certainly could do that but are additional cost associated with operating a one stop flight. Look at UA's over all international long haul network and show me where you see any one stop flights. There is a reason airlines are moving more and more ...
Jump to postDidn’t see mentioned anywhere yet, CO flew HOU-IAH for many years.
Jump to postIt ended way later, around 1997/8 since my dad flew CGK-(BIK?)-HNL-LAX vv on their MD-11 in 1996 for a summer school in Dallas. The trip was so memorable to him that he remember all the ticket price: $2700 for GA's C class to LAX and $100 each for AA's LAX-DFW/DFW-JFK/JFK-LAX with some sort of stud...
Jump to postThe last direct flight from Indonesia to North America was Garuda's CGK-HNL-LAX via a DC-10, ended in the late 80s? Northwest planned on starting a 3 weekly SEA-KIX-KUL-CGK using the DC-10 (start date was planned to be 7/1/1996) but for some reason it fell through and was replaced by NW68/69 DTW-KI...
Jump to postA commonly cited reason for the downfall of 747 size aircraft is that filling an aircraft of that size with passengers whilst still charging competitive prices for tickets is just too difficult. The thing is, before the days of flat bed seats, 747s used to carry more passengers, in a market that wa...
Jump to postThis story is total BS. Loved the “Americanphile” dig. Sensationalism at its finest. With the accompanying photo of a well behaved happy family. Hmm When this happens, all you have to do is politely ask folks on the plane if people are willing to swap seats. Most people are very accommodating and wi...
Jump to postMSP, DTW, and SLC are most definitely hubs. The local O&D traffic is minuscule compared to amount of passengers transiting. JFK and SEA are mostly hubs in the sense of feeding long haul traffic due to geographic position and terminal constraints. LAX, LGA, and BOS are more limited in their trans...
Jump to postI agree EWR doesn't have the connection opportunities anything like ORD,IAH,LAX or SFO. However, given UA is their partner it makes perfect sense to go there over JFK. There are very few places in the US (or North America) that you wouldn't be able to reach in a single connection with those 4 UA hu...
Jump to postThe reason why I wrote this article is because with UA starting DEN-FRA service recently and I want to know if the legacy UA (1990s) operated any long haul flights of DEN? As noted, brief stints of 777s on DEN-LHR/FRA were the extent of legacy UAL longhaul service from DEN. NRT was a post-merger ad...
Jump to postDid you read the picture caption? It kind of answered your question.
Jump to postUnited needs to get past its unmerger. I’ve never seen such a ridiculous display of stupid over a merger, to the point where it’s actually hurting the brand. They’ve held on to this CO livery to pacify the CO crowd at the airline. Get the hell over it. There are still workgroups to this day that do...
Jump to postWhat I find odd is that so many media outlets are calling this the first nonstop between CPT and N.America, which isn't true by any stretch. In fact, it's not even the second. SA has flown scheduled service on JNB-CPT-MIA and JNB-CPT-FLL-ATL-JNB in the past. That's a choice, not a restriction. DL c...
Jump to postIt's opening day for the white sox and UA's home plate ads are rather placeholder-y looking, and they've never used "airlines" on them before. Make of that what you will. http://i68.tinypic.com/ne7h3.png Continental’s logo was like that; the globe with “Continental Airlines” as 2 lines ne...
Jump to postTo and from the hotel and at the airport that is not required in Saudi. Westerners are kept in guarded compounds, different rules apply. Crew are issued a letter of introduction to show the religious police if questioned. Once you go out in public it’s time to observe local customs. At shopping mal...
Jump to postI'm interested to see what the interior of the refurbed 764s will be like. Have they started mods yet? 34J, 20PE, 28Y+, 156Y images in video https://news.delta.com/new-paths-across-pond-delta-virgin-atlantic-serve-london-gatwick-boston-and-new-york-jfk-2020 Wow. That's quite a shrinkage in Delta se...
Jump to postthey also can increase their incremental margins since at those low fares, they charge for bags, seat assignments, EconPlus, food etc. Those ancillary items are not currently taxed as tickets by the government so go right to the bottom line. You can easily add $100-$200 additional dollars in revenue...
Jump to postSikhs are a very peaceful group of people , what a joke Hmm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Indira_Gandhi So as a result of this an entire religion is no longer considered peaceful? Nobody is getting the irony. We’re ready to jump down the throat of a women’s overreaction to somethi...
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