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Midwestindy

Re: Confirmed: New United international routes 10/14

Dieuwer wrote:
CALMSP wrote:
skipness1E wrote:
Do we think we'll be back to normal for the summer next year? I can't imagine wearing a face mask for long haul, it's just too much for me.

I'd say masks will be 100% for 2022.

Then TATL will be dead for the most part.

It will not....hence this announcement....

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Midwestindy

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

Took a look at the corporate travel 100 list for 2019, and calculated the impact of COVID. Wish I could exclude Jan/Feb spend, but alas. - Core location, I didn't use listed hq for some of them since I know some companies have more employees at non-hq offices. And I simplified some metros, like DC, ...

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Midwestindy

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2021

1. Hawaii is arguably more prestigious than the Caribbean 2. No passport is required 2. The wealthy Williamson County folks will want to splurge for a Hawaiian vacation 3. Nashville is pretty similar to Austin (though growing a bit slower) and the HA flight to Austin is doing well It would do well ...

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Midwestindy

Re: Delta announces Q3 2021 Profit

Good the hear the additional A350 acquisitions are real. Hopefully we find out soon who they came from. They noted domestic corp travel at 40% of 2019 level as of September, up from 30% in June. The growth was "below expectations" as growth paused in July. SME driving growth, as large ent...

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Midwestindy

Re: United Fleet, Network, and Discussion Thread - Q4 2021

Nicknuzzii wrote:
I see that United updated their Jan and Feb schedules this weekend. How solid are these? If they hold to even a decent extent I will be very impressed.

Jan/Feb cuts look pretty deep already, I wouldn't expect anything too extreme from here.

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Midwestindy

Re: Rumor: New United international routes 10/13

slcdeltarumd11 wrote:
Seems like a possibility. As business travel is very very slow to recover they are looking for new ways to use those planes and fill seats.

TATL is heavy leisure during the summer anyway, this is more about moving TPAC aircraft to TATL, since TPAC travel will be dead for a while.

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Midwestindy

Re: Contour Airlines Routes and Predictions

Just looking at the website, I am pleasantly surprised, considering the short notice, and lack of advertising. IND-BNA seems to be booking well on Sunday/Friday, with some dates already at $199. Thanksgiving Sunday almost Sold Out already at $249. This will be a regular trip for me (yay! Finally se...

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Midwestindy

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

https://www.airlines.org/wp-content/upl ... ates-5.pdf

Midwestindy

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

Expect positive commentary on the bookings front during earnings calls over the next couple weeks: https://i.imgur.com/AW6jAbJ.png https://i.imgur.com/Oh59tDV.png https://i.imgur.com/WGIrZL8.png https://i.imgur.com/P5OSB1R.png https://i.imgur.com/EuFPujv.png https://i.imgur.com/sy7a9ot.png https://w...

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Midwestindy

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

The pilot’s union said this has nothing to do with them: https://www.swapa.org/news/2021/press-release/ So what’s the deal? Is this just a huge operational disaster? Yes. It’s the same thing that happened to Spirit. Too many crew got stuck due to the ATC issue and they didn’t have enough reserves (...

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Midwestindy

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2021

Also record breaking weekend ahead for IND, what pandemic?: "Air travel is expected to hit a record high at the Indianapolis International Airport this weekend with fall break travelers." “We’ve only seen that level of passenger traffic a handful of times since the new terminal opened in ...

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Midwestindy

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2021

While DL has suspended CVG-SFO nonstop service through at least 6/6/2022, CVG can probably support the return of CVG-SFO nonstop service as the PDEW to the San Francisco Bay Area was 114 passengers/day in Q2 2021. Where do you find PDEW numbers? I am trying to get those stats for CMH and a few dest...

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Midwestindy

Re: Point-To-Point routes in the US

There are a lot of p2p routes, even if you narrow it down to just AA: AA AUS: ASE, BNA, BOS, CUN, CVG, DEN, ELP, IND, JAX, LAS, LIR, NAS, MCI, MCO, MSY, OKC, PVR, PUJ, RDU, RNO, RSW, SJD, SJU, STL, TPA, TUL, IAD, VPS BOS: AUS, AVL, CMH, CUN, CVG, FLL, EYW, HHH, ILM, IND, JAC, STL, GCM, MBJ, MDT, NAS...

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Midwestindy

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021

I'm going to get all philosophical here, but when it is tough to travel between say CLE and IND, it has to diminish economic ties between the cities. And this contributes to widening gap between the winners and losers in our country-- the rich get richer because they have large hubs already. Thankf...

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Midwestindy

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2021

Also record breaking weekend ahead for IND, what pandemic?: "Air travel is expected to hit a record high at the Indianapolis International Airport this weekend with fall break travelers." “We’ve only seen that level of passenger traffic a handful of times since the new terminal opened in 2...

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Midwestindy

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

I'm telling you all, this thread is weeks ahead of the game. Just follow the data: " UPDATE 1-Delta Air's ticket sales improve, reinstates initial Q3 revenue view " "For Delta, they bottomed out in the later part of August and the first part of September," Chief Executive ED Bas...

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Midwestindy

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2021

I'll be making a quick pit stop to IND, trying out the new BNA-IND Flight, we'll see how it goes. Also Contour will be using Concourse B, hopefully B15 or B16 and not B4 or B5 so they don't get in the way of G4. --- Pre-COVID in IND, AA recognized this with IND-BOS, where ~50 passengers/day were co...

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Midwestindy

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2021

I'll be making a quick pit stop to IND, trying out the new BNA-IND Flight, we'll see how it goes. Also Contour will be using Concourse B, hopefully B15 or B16 and not B4 or B5 so they don't get in the way of G4. --- Pre-COVID in IND, AA recognized this with IND-BOS, where ~50 passengers/day were con...

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Midwestindy

Re: Austin (Texas) Aviation Thread - 2021

[Lifted from another thread] I'm telling you all, this thread is weeks ahead of the game. Just follow the data: " UPDATE 1-Delta Air's ticket sales improve, reinstates initial Q3 revenue view " "For Delta, they bottomed out in the later part of August and the first part of September,...

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Midwestindy

Re: DL International BOS Additions

The DoJ has no case, at this point. The argument is in favor of competition. Looking at the JFK, BOS, LGA map, there's plenty of it. The DOJ isn't going to frame this as 'enough competition.' It's going to frame it as 'There would be more competition without the NEA.' DL's adds are irrelevant to th...

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Midwestindy

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

The forecast ahead is on the upswing: - JP Morgan released a note to investors this week saying bookings were accelerating - Deutsche Bank released a note to investors this week "saying bookings recently stabilized and starting to turn up" https://www.marketwatch.com/story/delta-airlines-...

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Midwestindy

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021

I don't think there has been an overnight build up of one market in recent years that compares to what AA has done in AUS. This is their pre-covid route map: https://i.imgur.com/RMmKZAo.png vs. today..... https://i.imgur.com/VrGXzU5.png At this point I would expect them to add a SLC type route, or ...

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Midwestindy

Re: Updated: DOJ sues to block AA - B6 Northeast partnership

Again. DL has a beautiful underused terminal in BOS and years ago committed to growing the market. You have ZERO evidence that this recent growth from DL is a result of anything B6 or AA is doing. Jeremy Not sure what exactly is the point of your response is. All I was saying is that competition is...

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Midwestindy

Re: Updated: DOJ sues to block AA - B6 Northeast partnership

https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-boston-air-lines-new-routes-ath-tlv/ That darn NEA sure is hindering competition and limiting consumers' options. Oh, wait. :lol: Plus this from a few months ago lol: https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-new-routes-ny-boston/ This can't be, there must be a misunde...

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Midwestindy

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2021

An interesting member on this list... HOLIDAY TRAVEL FORECAST: EXPEDIA REVEALS THE TOP TRENDING DESTINATIONS: https://i.imgur.com/aAeOFTD.png https://www.expediagroup.com/media/media-details/2021/Holiday-Travel-Forecast-Expedia-Reveals-the-Top-Trending-Destinations/default.aspx What is this based o...

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Midwestindy

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2021

Midwestindy, when will you have YTD passenger numbers I'm curious how IND is doing. Early in the year IND was ahead of SNA so I'm curious how IND is doing compared to SNA SAT CVG Ect Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk YTD July MCI-3,962,415 CLE-3,798,231 SAT-3,793,490 IND-3,753,075 SNA-3,509,744 ...

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Midwestindy

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2021

AA's passenger numbers might end up pretty close to WN this year in IND. Looks like WN is getting clobbered in some of the competitive IND markets. - WN cut PHX down to 1x daily after mid-August (ignoring Holiday or weekends), and it won't go back to 2x daily until next March(and that's tentative). ...

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Midwestindy

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread - 2021

https://i.imgur.com/7RkSR3B.png https://i.imgur.com/vUn0PKS.png https://news.flyfrontier.com/frontier-airlines-expands-at-its-new-tampa-base-with-5-more-nonstop-routes/ https://news.flyfrontier.com/frontier-airlines-expands-its-international-route-map-with-6-new-nonstop-routes-to-cancun-this-winter/

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Midwestindy

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2021

F9 is starting CMH-TPA in December, 3x weekly: https://news.flyfrontier.com/frontier-airlines-expands-at-its-new-tampa-base-with-5-more-nonstop-routes/ Absolute bloodbath on this route now with 4 carriers; F9, MX, NK, and WN. I know Florida demand seems endless but there is no way this can be maint...

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Midwestindy

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2021

The reasons for the speculation are: 1. Any increased costs as a result of modernization/expansion are years away, as planning is just in the very early stages. 2. G4’s loads were the lowest at the airport by a significant margin. We all know loads aren’t everything, but they matter more for an air...

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Midwestindy

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2021

[code][/code] Posters on the CLE thread are speculating that perhaps the real reason for their departure is that Breeze ate into their margins. If that’s the case, a return to CAK seems unlikely. Now YNG, that would be interesting. The way service develops over time sets up some interesting ULCC co...

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Midwestindy

Re: Updated: DOJ sues to block AA - B6 Northeast partnership

It’s very hard to argue that B6 doesn’t compete with UA and DL in the NYC market when UAL pulled out of JFK in 2014 Specifically because it couldn’t compete with JetBlue. The Truth is nobody has enough gates/slots to have a fortress hub in NYC. It’s designed that way on purpose. B6 will be just fin...

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Midwestindy

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

The lifting of some restrictions was big for bookings this week: https://i.imgur.com/2i7jAXy.png https://i.imgur.com/teCUVco.png https://i.imgur.com/j7l52Jb.png https://i.imgur.com/ruclGDl.png https://www.airlines.org/dataset/impact-of-covid19-data-updates/# https://datastudio.google.com/u/0/reporti...

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Midwestindy

Re: The Rest of Ohio - 2021

G4 is pulling out of CLE, citing the cost structure at the airport. I wonder if a crawling back to CAK or YNG is in order. Posters on the CLE thread are speculating that perhaps the real reason for their departure is that Breeze ate into their margins. If that’s the case, a return to CAK seems unli...

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Midwestindy

Re: Updated: DOJ sues to block AA - B6 Northeast partnership

Your complaints seem to be about the development and competitiveness of B6’s network, not the benefit to consumers. The DOJ’s argument is that more competitors = lower prices and the data backs that up. While increasing B6’s network breadth also helps - acknowledged by the DOJ in their discussion o...

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Midwestindy

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

Ever since I returned stateside a few months ago I've been interested in this topic. This kind of info is not available overseas. Ive been tracking the passenger count from the TSA site for three months. I don't want to clutter the topic with a long spread sheet but US passenger count has settled a...

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Midwestindy

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2021

DL is increasing IND-LGA to 6x daily, at least for November and December, while also reversing some of their capacity cuts by readding capacity back to ATL, MSP, DTW that they initially cut. 6x daily is the most I can remember them operating on the route in recent years. Comparing December/November ...

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Midwestindy

Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2021

Yeah, I know. But they did have some unique destinations, like JAX, meaning its lost to CLE (even if less than daily). But if it results in someone like DL stepping in to fill that route, that's even better. “Our flights were very successful in the market" This is the interesting part, I wonde...

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Midwestindy

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2021

What is a “inline maintenance” station? Wouldn’t IND need to grow a lot of mainline service to get to that point? It's where they insource fleet service work You need to average 140 weekly mainline departures, or 20 a day to become a new insourced station. The placeholder schedule for April 5th has...

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Midwestindy

Re: Updated: DOJ sues to block AA - B6 Northeast partnership

If you read between the lines, this was never really about preserving competition in New York. I mean, sure maybe for NK and a few of the ULCCs it was about New York and getting some more slots, but even a B6/AA merger would not significantly impact the overall competition to NYC as a whole. For th...

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Midwestindy

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2021

AA's head of revenue, Vasu Raja, did an interesting webinar today: Relevant to IND, he said Austin (p2p flying) is an example of where AA's network evolves to in the future, and he envisions a handful of cities similar to Austin in AA's network moving forward. Essentially the thesis is --- They are...

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Midwestindy

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2021

AA's head of revenue, Vasu Raja, did an interesting webinar today: Relevant to IND, he said Austin (p2p flying) is an example of where AA's network evolves to in the future, and he envisions a handful of cities similar to Austin in AA's network moving forward. Essentially the thesis is --- They aren...

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Midwestindy

Re: Updated: DOJ sues to block AA - B6 Northeast partnership

Why can't we let the likes of B6/F9/NK and yes even SW replace companies that are poorly run? How do you define “poorly run”? In some cases the legacies were performing better than the companies you mentioned pre covid. By your own comments F9 should be dead because they were in terrible shape unti...

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Midwestindy

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2021

IND is on B6's website, took longer since IND-BOS was added before the NEA:

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Midwestindy

Re: Updated: DOJ sues to block AA - B6 Northeast partnership

This. We aren't talking about Tech or Banking, we are talking about the airline industry. Without consolidation, the airline industry wouldn't have survived this crisis, and if they did there would have been a heck of a lot more "right-sizing" of employee counts.....I can tell you that mu...

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Midwestindy

Re: Updated: DOJ sues to block AA - B6 Northeast partnership

This is a virtual merger. They're cooperating on schedules and marketing, and they're even sharing revenue! The fact that both AA and B6 were medium-sized players in NYC meant that both had to compete more aggressively to win passengers. B6 had to be disruptive to win passengers over to Mint. Conso...

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Midwestindy

Re: Updated: DOJ sues to block AA - B6 Northeast partnership

Biden's Administration is pro-union and is in the mood to trust bust like Teddy Roosevelt. Younger people may not know this but until the 1980's or so, mergers and JV just didn't happen like they do now. The DOJ turned most down. Look at the consolidation in the airline, tech and especially the ban...

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Midwestindy

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2021

Does Anyone know if United is going all Mainline on Denver starting October 1st? Cause Express is ending it? For now, until UA's IND-DEN inevitably goes back to 3x daily, then it'll likely see Express again So is IND actively moving / planning on building the runway south of I/70? Or still 20 years...

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Midwestindy

Re: US Airline Booking Trends during COVID-19

"50% of business travel is gone forever" https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/17/coronavirus-bill-gates-says-more-than-50percent-of-business-travel-will-disappear-long-term.html Meanwhile.....at AA....in the real world: "So again, at the time of our earnings announcement, which was mid-July, ...

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Midwestindy

Re: Updated: DOJ sues to block AA - B6 Northeast partnership

If the DOJ wishes to wipe out JVs & Alliances, and give slots to LCCs/ULCCs in an attempt to “increase competition” so be it…. But inevitably this is what’s going to occur: - A reduction profitability of an already fragile industry - Loss of n/s service to smaller markets, as slot divestures to ...

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