I think that Canberra and Wellington being the capitals of AUS and NZL, would need a link to connect politicians and other people. When SQ operated it for ¬18 months, "demand ... was limited - at times the flights were so empty that passengers were required to change seats to ensure weight was...
Jump to post[quote="planemanofnz"]Christchurch Airport is keen to secure KE and MH services. KE, I understand. I could see some summer charters as over NW 19/20, but not sure about a proper scheduled service? MH is a little more baffling to me. The Airport explained that “There is a lot of demand from...
Jump to postHere is some exciting news. Air Napier has ordered 35 Maeve 01 electric planes which will have 44 seats and a range of 460km. This is a massive investment by them. I guess that they will fly NPE- AKL, CHC WLG etc. https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/128956-new-zealands-air-napier-orders-35-maev...
Jump to postJanuary 2023 BITRE International Airline Activity is out https://www.bitre.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/International_airline_activity_0123.pdf Some of the data looks inaccurate, but for the most part solid load factors all around. - QR's experiment with ADL-AKL was a waste of money. - AKL-...
Jump to post3C says costs at both AKL and WAG could make travelling too expensive for passengers, as it scrambles to negotiate with the Whanganui District Council over proposed increases to landing charges. 3C's COO said "The worst case scenario is that Air Chathams withdraws from Whanganui, but the bigge...
Jump to postNZ are updating their schedules for NW23/24, some changes so far mostly service increases, they had 2.5 spare 789s and no sign of where the additional 77W go yet, ex AKL Week commencing 4th Dec. NRT increase 7 to 10 weekly 789 BNE 3x daily 77W/321/320 SYD 36x weekly 6x on Fri and Sun, 4x Sat new ti...
Jump to postQF seems to be investing a bit of capacity back into New Zealand, while NZ is stuck sitting with a limited fleet post covid. It looks like QF has found there is some New Zealand potential to grow... With the E190's making there first New Zealand encounter, I wonder if it could just be the start of ...
Jump to postNZ complaining of visa processing times for Chinese tourists to New Zealand - I wonder how much this is impacting AKL-PVG? "The visa turnaround is far from ideal. So nowadays it probably takes more than three weeks or four weeks for the individual to get a visa. However, prior to Covid [it was...
Jump to postExpansion announced by QF, including 4th frequency on AKL-JFK and new WLG-BNE service with an Alliance E190. Also increase in CHC-SYD and ZQN-SYD. NZ surely has to respond on AKL-JFK? Just as we were talking about them not doing WLG-BNE on here! :lol: Interesting use of the E190. Great for plane sp...
Jump to postBut the QF Group serves both BNE and OOL from AKL/CHC/ZQN - why should WLG be different? That is a good question as to why WLG should be any different, but it just always has been. Perhaps it's less tourism based compared to CHC and ZQN and well AKL, is AKL.. Ahh, demand. Australians demand Queenst...
Jump to postI wonder if it due to the fact the QF group uses JQ to fly WLG-OOL so they feel they don't need to bother with BNE. But the QF Group serves both BNE and OOL from AKL/CHC/ZQN - why should WLG be different? That is a good question as to why WLG should be any different, but it just always has been. Pe...
Jump to postInteresting how weak WLG is for them, comparatively. Also, how ZQN is busier than CHC for them. I guess this does not factor in EK's 380 on SYD-CHC though. Is that 12 meant to be QF flights to WLG per week? If so then it's incorrect, should be 21 (SYD x 14, MEL x 7). QF are pretty strong ex WLG. It...
Jump to postWhy don't they fly to BNE when they do ex-AKL/CHC/ZQN? BNE-WLG was a NZ vs VA route pre-covid, and during the NZ/VA JV it was basically (briefly) a VA monopoly during the later half of the old JV. I can't remember if QF served BNE-WLG pre-COVID, but I do suspect if they did it would've been after t...
Jump to postWLG is "aiming to increase support" (are these incentives?) and "bring more international flights to Wellington" - who would be the likeliest contender? Good to see that "passenger numbers have bounced back to 86% of pre-Covid levels, as the airport posts a profit of $25.2 ...
Jump to postHow are they rorting it exactly? With no real domestic competition any capacity they take out of the market allows them to increase airfares to make up for any revenue shortfall. With a stronger domestic competitor who could add capacity when they cut then we would see a transfer of revenue across ...
Jump to postMust say, the HBA-AKL numbers on then latest BITRE don't look amazing. LF went down in December vs November? Also very far from NZ's Australia-wide LF for Dec (seems like almost full flights aside from HBA). Bit surprising, maybe concerning. Maybe this route is best off as a two weekly service. Whi...
Jump to postDoes anyone know the status of OHA as an alternate airport? I heard that its available but only for limited hours?
Jump to postAnd this will again be the problem. There had been some excitement here about the re-entry of the Chinese carriers but unfortunately they just drag down fares to uneconomic levels which then discourages other airlines from expanding or launching new services which may be of more value to the countr...
Jump to postNZ increasing its EBITDA guidance for the year to June 30 to be in the range of $510 million to $560 million. This compares with the prior guidance range of $450 million to $530 million. Interesting to note this comment: ... softer cargo revenues due to increased competitive capacity, particularly ...
Jump to postI must say I am in two minds about this NZ-US capacity increase. Its a great sugar hit for the tourism industry. For example in Jan 2004 there were around 110k seat operated between the two countries and in Jan 2024 it will be 190k seats a 70% increase. However, with much of this capacity only being...
Jump to postWith the new UA service to SFO, I wonder if NZ will see any impetus to kick-start a refurbishment of its CHC international lounge? Am I right in saying that it is still decked out in the older style/looking rather tired? That does look a bit pokey compared to AKL or some of the other recent updates...
Jump to postLooks like OG has dropped NPE. It appears as if Originair has quietly dropped Napier with it no longer appearing on the airline's on-line reservation system. The Napier flights were offered twice weekly from Palmerston North to Napier allowing a connection to and from Nelson but these have operated...
Jump to postPalmerston North Airport is planning on building a new $40m terminal as they are hoping to see jets return in the future. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300851817/terminal-rebuild-deemed-essential-for-palmerston-north-airport More about the introduction of screening for regional services than the...
Jump to postLooks like OG has dropped NPE. It appears as if Originair has quietly dropped Napier with it no longer appearing on the airline's on-line reservation system. The Napier flights were offered twice weekly from Palmerston North to Napier allowing a connection to and from Nelson but these have operated...
Jump to post... there was a huge amount of scepticism about AKL-HBA before it was announced Was there ever "huge" scepticism? HBA was the largest city in Australia unserved by NZ at the time, and HBA-AKL fits within NZ's model of targeting US-AU vv traffic - the route has strategic alignment and valu...
Jump to postATR72-500 ZK-MCJ was 'withdrawn' from the NZ register on 08 Mar 2023. I thought it might end up at Air Chathams but it looks like it will be broken up in CHC. ZK-MCB is still on the register. PA515 Maybe two ATRs are sufficient for Air Chathams needs. True. There's only so much demand to/from CHT. ...
Jump to postDoes anyone know whats up with ZK-OYC, has also gone inactive like ZK-OYA. Could possibly be fitting another international neo to keep that set flying. It was seen in the AKL airport hangar. Any thoughts? ZK-OKM is headed to Honolulu as well. I Big reduction in flights to Wellington . This morning ...
Jump to postJust on the MEL-PER-LHR flights - I presume the only pax carried on the MEL<>PER sectors are the ones travelling MEL<>LHR or I guess connecting on to other international flights at PER? So no local domestic MEL-PER pax? If so it must be quite an expensive flight to operate given I presume most of t...
Jump to postJust on the MEL-PER-LHR flights - I presume the only pax carried on the MEL<>PER sectors are the ones travelling MEL<>LHR or I guess connecting on to other international flights at PER? So no local domestic MEL-PER pax? If so it must be quite an expensive flight to operate given I presume most of th...
Jump to postUnlikely VA will get involved in anything AKL for a while unless if there's a codeshare partnership involved with one of the existing partners (for example if a hypothetical VA BNE-AKL was to complement UA's BNE-SFO service for connections on the days UA doesn't operate out of BNE). There is no amo...
Jump to postThe airline has no plans to expand A320's in New Zealand. I guess they could still 'expand' so to speak by increasing utilisation of the 320s already here. I wonder if the hiring of new cabin crew is just to replace those leaving, or is to actually grow. I would imagine its to deliver the 80% domes...
Jump to postOOL services seeing strong demand - I wonder if we'll see some expansion on OOL-AKL, like NZ using a 787 (with the benefit of being able to offer Business Class all the way to/from North America), QF (and/or VA?) re-entering the route, and/or a fifth-freedom route re-emerge (D7 is resuming OOL from...
Jump to postA mixed situation for JQ in New Zealand: Trans-Tasman traffic to New Zealand is a particularly strong spot, with capacity 25% higher than pre-pandemic levels. Jetstar’s domestic market in New Zealand, however, is at 80% of pre-pandemic capacity. https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/jetstar-rides-s...
Jump to postRE: AKL's plans. Remember also that its not the airport that is paying for these plans. Its the airlines. They are already complaining about what was announced today; imagine their opposition if there were even more jet stands, and the inclusion of regional as well? And you can bet that none of the...
Jump to postRE: AKL's plans. Remember also that its not the airport that is paying for these plans. Its the airlines. They are already complaining about what was announced today; imagine their opposition if there were even more jet stands, and the inclusion of regional as well? And you can bet that none of the ...
Jump to postOr that too, would make more sense. However, just like the WLG masterplan with taking over the golf course, that design also makes no sense there so it must be an airports designers skill to design things that don't make much sense. Whats the issue with WLG's design? Isnt the plan to extend the air...
Jump to postI'm sorry but that doesn't really make sense. To actually make that work would require an increase in frequency of WLG-Regional flights that are currently AKL-Regional and WLG can hardly cope with the number of turboprop services as it is. WLG has plans to increase their turbo/jet capability as wel...
Jump to post... the plan is for the turboprop services will continue to operate from the existing domestic terminal So regional pax will go from only having a terminal transfer for international flights at AKL, to having such terminal transfers now for domestic jet services too? That definitely seems less than...
Jump to postIt probably reflects the fact that most airlines that were operating AKL had been doing so for many years and so have probably timed off any incentive scheme, whereas CHC has airlines which are far more recent (CZ, CX). Plus as you say AKL will always be the first port if you want to serve New Zeal...
Jump to postAgain its not just a CHC thing - AKL paid out $5.3M in incentives to airlines in the same year. Its a normal thing that pretty much every airport and region has to do if you want new flights to your city nowadays. The only routes that typically wouldnt require support would be your hub airlines. So...
Jump to postI would think Christchurch Council and/or Airport may also put a submission when it comes time to renew the NZ/UA JV between NZ and the USA. Incentives (subsidies) may also likely be mentioned by one (or both) parties in the renewal submission if they are actively chasing a CHC-LAX (or) SFO flight ...
Jump to postI don't think Christchurch (the Airport or Council) has ever given such incentives to a route? Yes they do, it just doesnt become as public as the Wellington Singapore Airlines beatup. In FY19 (last year before Covid) CHC paid out $5.2M in airline incentives in that FY. And I would imagine that Chr...
Jump to postI expect if UA ever decided to start CHC it would be a max of 3 pw to begin with and they would need financial incentives to come. A bit like what they got from BNE airport and the State of Queensland. I don't think Christchurch (the Airport or Council) has ever given such incentives to a route? Ye...
Jump to postI’m picking LAX-AKL ... with NZ dropping the second LAX. NZ may have some reservation about 'giving' more of its existing services to UA, given there is always a risk that the NZ-UA JV will not be renewed by regulators (it was approved before AA, DL, AC and QF started North America-AKL services). I...
Jump to postIf you removed JFK which arrives too late and had CNS depart at 0700 it returns to AKL around 1815 or so, then as before no domestic connections. Exactly. Aside from JFK, CNS can be scheduled for other NA destinations in both directions but JFK is a step too far. Having said that, a UA/NZ combo via...
Jump to postHopefully they can stick out the strong USD and remain at AKL. DL's impending launch of LAX-AKL may cut a chunk of that west coast traffic for HA that the non-stops on NZ/UA clearly aren't capturing all of. Separately, interested to see SEA as the third biggest connecting market for Kiwis, and that...
Jump to postHA ... - New Zealand at 3 times a week, down from 5 pre-covid and unlikely to move back up in the short term as NZers are not booking Hawaii like they used to, with the strong US dollar. - However services over the summer have been nonetheless performed very well owing to Americans traveling to NZ ...
Jump to postI must say the QF B738 product across the Tasman is looking pretty dated now. Has anything been said publically about what and when is likely to replace it? I doubt they would waste the A321XLR on such a short sector?
Jump to post- AKL/CHC-HNL - relieve NZ of 789 flying. Can be done with lower range 777/767's. CHC may help JV renewal. Or even WLG-HNL. Well within the range of any widebody from the runway. Whereas in the case of CHC you can get someone flying non-stop to mainland USA over the top, in WLG thats not the case.
Jump to postPre covid they operated for domestic 17 CEOs OXA to OXM and OAB, OJQ ,OJR, and OJS. Plus a further 3 former international 320s OJB, OKI ,OJM to make a total fleet of 20. Those last 3 have since been retired. Yes they have just received their 3rd 321 OYC so that the domestic fleet is back up to 20. ...
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