The door plug is not supposed to be opened even during an emergency. So it could have been designed bigger than the hole. People have stated that the purpose of the plug is so the aircraft can be later changed, to add an exit door, or vice versa. Does that mean they have the same mounting system, o...
Jump to postKDCA wrote:I have a United flight on Saturday, was a 737-900ER, but now showing as a MAX9 in the app. Are they back in the schedule?
Everything I read about this incident is about the Max 9. The same door can be installed in 737-900-ER. Why aren't they being inspected too? Both United and Alaska fly the 900ER with these plugs installed. Because the youngest -900ER has been through multiple maintenance cycles in which the plug ha...
Jump to postQ wrote:I checked FlightAware B737 MAX 9 are currently flying 13 of them I think they already inspection and let back to service but are still grounded mostly until all completed replace bolts or tools are added.
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In the Wichita factory, the door panel should not be cut if the airline option does not require an exit door. If the airline option calls for an exit door, then proceed to cut and install the exit door accordingly. It's as simple as that! Cutting a door hole and later patching and bolting it, if th...
Jump to postYes, manufacturing supply chain refers to both parts AND assembly. And that supply chain includes Boeing. It could have been a more gentle way of apologizing without saying "We're sorry Boeing screwed up", but that's only a conjecture. The actual statement preserves ambiguity. Lmao. That ...
Jump to postI didn't see where they said they had bad bolts specifically? Just a "mistake," presumably not ruling out that they weren't installed properly. It says supply chain which would insinuate a part and not a installation error Or possibly just trying to say that it was Spirit's fault as a par...
Jump to postSo if Boeing says they screws were bad then how long to get replacement screws out to everyone? I guess they’ll just try to get whatever one they were using before. Think about the 2 cents per bolt they saved tho. Still worth it for sure. I didn't see where they said they had bad bolts specifically...
Jump to postSo if Boeing says they screws were bad then how long to get replacement screws out to everyone? I guess they’ll just try to get whatever one they were using before. Think about the 2 cents per bolt they saved tho. Still worth it for sure.
Jump to postAaron747 wrote:Bradin wrote:NBC: Do you feel comfortable that the Max 9 fleet should continue to fly?
NTSB: Decision is in the hands of the regulators.
Still at square one...
NTSB Media Brief - Alaska Airlines Flight 1282 (Jan 8) Notes ETOPS Alaska has a policy that restricts aircrafts with multiple maintenance issues that restricts aircrafts from flying ETOPS. Additional safety procedure by Alaska and exceeds FAA standards. Which was very prudent. If this aircraft had ...
Jump to postI wonder at what stage insurance premiums for Boeing planes will rise. And as others have pointed out, the MAX program, and perhaps with it the whole company Boeing is just one crash away from the ultimate grounding. The sheer number of issues in the past decade accross all programs, the blatant la...
Jump to postJust to provide some more clarity on what is found, 5 aircraft that were inspected by United had issues with the plug-door. But it was not the same bolt on every plane. The Jon Ostrower Air Current article is free, but it's impossible to copy-paste quotes from it. https://theaircurrent.com/feed/dis...
Jump to postAlleged image of one of United's 737 MAX 9s found with loose door plug screws. 2 screws are not screwed all the way in. Source: https://twitter.com/ByERussell/status/1744460136855294106/ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDWRH6OXEAEMu-l?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 I feel like this is simultaneously a v...
Jump to postYeah, I'll be very surprised if this ends up being AAR's fault. I see no reason why they'd need to opening up the door plug to complete the WiFi installation, when the same (or substantially the same) procedure is probably used for the A-model 739s which don't have door plugs (or exits or deactivat...
Jump to postJ2253/23 NOTAMN Q) RJJJ/QLRAS/IV/NBO/A/000/999/3533N13947E005 A) RJTT B) 2312271500 C) 2402211500 E) REF AIP SUP 225/23 ITEM TWY:2,3,4,5,6,7,10,11,12,13,33,38,44,54 TWY-CL-LGT FOR M1,R1,W11(BTN W AND R1)-U/S TWY-CL-LGT FOR E10(BEHIND SPOT 53)-PARTLY U/S TWY-CL-LGT FOR D5-U/S TWY-CL-LGT FOR A(BTN W ...
Jump to postElroyJetson wrote:If the wifi vendor was at fault is there any confidence this can be known via NTSB investigation?
I think we might be changing one bit of speculation for another. We’ve gone from blaming Boeing, to blaming Spirit, to blaming Alaska, to blaming this mysterious contractor that installed the Wi-Fi. Maybe we should at least wait a bit more until we speculate again… It’s not mysterious. You can see ...
Jump to postrj777 wrote:Wonder if the NTSB would be interested in the YouTube videos of the ATC?
Does anyone know if Alaska would ever access the plug or check it during acceptance procedures and conformity?
Jump to postI posted this by accident in the United Fleet Discussion Thread (Oops). Anyone have any idea where the plug went? Speculation? Another area (though quite a few miles away) to think about would be Mountain Park/Lake Grove/Lake Oswego. My hypothesis is from YouCanSeeATC’s video showing the track of A...
Jump to postCrash liability is already limited
Jump to postI cringed multiple times when I heard the ATC audio but not for what the professional in the flight deck was saying as much as the overall process. The crew communicated emergency and their immediate descent. (By luck, her transmissions did not get stepped on by other radio comms on the same antiqu...
Jump to postOh please…you can sound calm and clear, and deliver the right numbers with an oxygen mask covering your face. Again, I’m not disrespecting or judging the crew under a stressful situation since the outcome was the best possible outcome, I’m just pointing out that she was a little too nervous and sha...
Jump to postF9Animal wrote:Can someone explain the plug and why it's on the plane? Can airlines have an extra exit put on the plane?
I don’t think a full grounding makes much sense. They have thousands and thousands of successful hours among several carriers. Maybe select frames that were from that same time frame. A tough call but the only real call a competent CEO can make when they can’t guarantee the safety of passengers. Ho...
Jump to postI don’t think a full grounding makes much sense. They have thousands and thousands of successful hours among several carriers. Maybe select frames that were from that same time frame.
Jump to postConsidering it looks like they turned around over the cascades somewhere between Mt Hood and Mt Jefferson it might not be easy to find what’s left of the door. They were very close to PDX when this happened and I'd expect it will be found fairly quickly within a matter of days. With the extra atten...
Jump to postWell there you go. They were flying at an altitude that doesn't exist. Flight level 160, is 16,000 feet. So that would make sense where the pressure really starts to build in the fuselage. Again, had this happened at 35,000 feet this would have been a worse outcome. Actually, it's not. The lowest f...
Jump to postlog0008 wrote:Alaska says 171 pax. Considering the aircraft has a seating capacity of 178 it's a minor miracle that a window seat was vacant at the exact spot of the failure
https://twitter.com/AlaskaAir/status/17 ... 9776816583
A first hand account on Reddit states that a whole seat got ripped out (unoccupied)
Jump to postSuseJ772 wrote:krsw757 wrote:Someday, somehow, ZMA and ZJX will see level 12. Probably happen the day after I retire.
What’s the difference (advantage?) particularly for controller if a facility is Level 12 vs Level 11?
It’s funny cus they are learning the exact same thing allegiant did. Running old ass 757s on etops routes is not great
Jump to postNP could really make a good niche flying charters for the likes of Vacation Express, FunJet, and Apple. The 757 is a very capable airplane, and running tourists to places like CUN, MBJ, and PUJ on 2 leg days would suit this airline well. I think the only way they stay in business is by moving to a ...
Jump to postSugar Bowl charter. Makes better money than the scheduled service. Cancelling on paying passengers to run a charter should be investigated by the DOT Charters are paying customers as well. Charters have priority for an airline over scheduled flight. When I was in DFW with AA, we canceled a full DFW...
Jump to postMO11 wrote:Nonrevhell wrote:They have a plane coming from BFI today, probably back from being worked on.
Sugar Bowl charter. Makes better money than the scheduled service.
AS Cargo's new 737-800 freighters, I vaguely remember a discussion about AS retaining the ETOPS certification for them and speculation as to what routes between AK and the Lower 48 would benefit. Was AS planning for the potential of increased cargo ops to Hawaii? Hey can go direct to some places in...
Jump to postIs this “proof” of an airliner concept or a fighter jet concept? My thoughts exactly. Once they get this aircraft up and flying, they are no closer to getting a supersonic commercial transport certified and in service than they are now. They will still need to start at square one when building the ...
Jump to postsunking737 wrote:They maybe a shitshow,...BUT they are still flying much like EAL.
To be fair, the article says Ravn, not North Pacafic. Ravn has employees with a long history of challenging operations. If they are flying the smaller Ravn aircraft this is a very different conversation then the North Pacafic 757s. Not a sure bet by any means, but a much better one. It’s the same c...
Jump to postThere were a few articles about Ravn looking at routes in Pakistan last month. Maybe that will give NP some extra cash? https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/08-Nov-2023/this-american-airline-might-start-flight-operations-from-pakistan-soon-details-inside Oh come ON! Is this a freakin' early April Fool's...
Jump to postWhy are you saying they don’t add flights. They absolutely add flights
Jump to postLAXintl wrote:i don’t think it was ever supposed to be long term route. It was the easiest to come up with at the time. Still think they’ll fail… Jump to postPer upcoming GDS load ONT-LAS service discontinued eff January. Was previously shown 2x weekly until end of April.
What does AOG mean? A good write up about the Boeing AOG folks: https://www.heraldnet.com/business/boeings-elite-repair-team-travels-the-world/ I recall a documentary about the team repairing an Ethiopian 767, but can't seem to find it at the moment. I think your thinking of the Ethiopian 787 that ...
Jump to postI know this is anecdotal but in my experience if the APU is inop on flights to Hawaii from the mainland, UA Captains refuse the aircraft and an equipment swap occurs. If the APU issue is known beforehand, an equipment swap is planned by the aircraft routers. edited upon further reflection I’ve been...
Jump to postWhy do so many European airports need slots? Outside of the mega major airports slots should be done way with.
Jump to postLHR-HNL may be a bit too far for an A330 (at least without weight restrictions), but HA's upcoming 787s would certainly be able to handle the distance. That being said, I doubt if a Europe-Oceania routing via Hawaii would be very viable, given the issues of US CBP and relatively little demand betwe...
Jump to postHow crazy would it be for a merged AS+HA try to serve the Europe-Oceania market? LHR is a OneWorld hub and routes to AKL via SEA, ANC & HNL are a bit shorter than existing connections in the Middle East or Southeast Asia. Is LHR-HNL too far for a HA A330 to fly? Obviously, US CBP is definitely ...
Jump to postEFHK wrote:I think this news all but confirms the launch of HEL-HNL with some A350s, the shortest route from HI to most of Europe
So thinking about weird synergies, is there space in the AS/Mainland network for more 717s enough that it makes the fleet viable to maintain when Delta retires the type? Perhaps it displaces the SkyWest E175s in the long term? I don’t think so. But if they ever get over the airbus thing the a220 co...
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