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by VSMUT
Tue May 04, 2021 5:46 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Any chances of getting a EASA medical class 1 when exceeding vision limits?
Replies: 17
Views: 6732

Re: Any chances of getting a EASA medical class 1 when exceeding vision limits?

Got in contact with flight school for their rules for a class 1 (as some do have other rules) and said me to contact an eye doctor too and that it was perfectly possible to get my medical class 1, even >3D of astigmatism is possible in a lot of cases. as long as some further tests are done (same go...

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by VSMUT
Tue May 04, 2021 4:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9
Replies: 283
Views: 64196

Re: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9

According to aero.de, those early 787-9 (entry to service winter 2021/22) will get an upgraded business class. It will NOT be the announces new business class that was supposed to be introduced with the 777X. The upgraded business class on the Dreamliner will be similar to the current one, but ever...

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by VSMUT
Tue May 04, 2021 3:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9
Replies: 283
Views: 64196

Re: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9

According to aero.de, those early 787-9 (entry to service winter 2021/22) will get an upgraded business class. It will NOT be the announces new business class that was supposed to be introduced with the 777X. The upgraded business class on the Dreamliner will be similar to the current one, but ever...

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by VSMUT
Tue May 04, 2021 3:22 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: EASA Enigma - Any specific reason?
Replies: 14
Views: 2931

Re: EASA Enigma - Any specific reason?

Sometimes one has to wonder if there isn't more job security and career progression driving trains of building organs than there is being a pilot. There is. For the past decade in Europe, the pay is better also. I know many pilots have transitioned to trains in Denmark. The national rail operator e...

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by VSMUT
Tue May 04, 2021 8:17 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: EASA Enigma - Any specific reason?
Replies: 14
Views: 2931

Re: EASA Enigma - Any specific reason?

Because EASA sets higher standards than many other countries, and is unable to verify that 3rd part countries live up to the same standards. It's not like it's a one-way street. Try converting to an Australian, US or South African license from EASA... There is also an oversupply of pilots in Europe,...

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by VSMUT
Tue May 04, 2021 6:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air creates Super Air Jet, a new airline
Replies: 80
Views: 18398

Re: Lion Air creates Super Air Jet, a new airline

I am quite curious which target market is Super Air jet targeting? Those well-informed millennials who are tech savvy would most probably know Lion Air is dodgy and would avoid it like a plague. Indonesia aviation market is very saturated with many airlines. Even GA deployed widebody on many trunk ...

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by VSMUT
Tue May 04, 2021 6:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9
Replies: 283
Views: 64196

Re: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9

JannEejit wrote:
Are the NTU Norwegian 787's in full Norwegian livery or literally 'white tails' as suggested ? I know the 787-9 delivered straight to storage at Prestwick was fully painted.


Fully painted. Same for the other NTU 787s.

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by VSMUT
Tue May 04, 2021 5:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9
Replies: 283
Views: 64196

Re: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9

There are 5 A340-300 in the fleet of LX. Why not replace them? The Lufthansa A340 fleet is a couple of years older than the Swiss A340 fleet. Lufthansa's are from between 1996 and 2001. Swiss' were delivered between 2003 and 2004. Further, Swiss just refurbished its A340s with the new interior on t...

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by VSMUT
Mon May 03, 2021 7:11 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Herd Immunity Losing Out To Vaccine Hesitation and Virus Mutation
Replies: 205
Views: 15985

Re: Herd Immunity Losing Out To Vaccine Hesitation and Virus Mutation

I find it ironic that those who 6 months ago were talking about herd immunity now won't get the vaccine, keeping society from getting immunity. Aren't they generally also the same people who used to ridicule "millennials" for having psychological issues, yet now insist that quarantine and...

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by VSMUT
Mon May 03, 2021 5:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9
Replies: 283
Views: 64196

Re: LH ordering 5 more A350s and 5 more 787-9

A good moment to order for sure with some airlines having to delay or cancel their existing orders. Who's prebuilt 787-9 are these? From a quick glance, I can see 4 Norwegians and 3 Vistaras that are NTU. The latter are former Hainan NTUs that Vistara ended up not taking as well. There is actually ...

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by VSMUT
Mon May 03, 2021 7:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air creates Super Air Jet, a new airline
Replies: 80
Views: 18398

Re: Lion Air creates Super Air Jet, a new airline

Interesting development....... I have been following the said new airline for some time and saw the A320 delivery via KLIA on IG few weeks ago. While details were sketchy at first, however there was a rumour going around few months back that Rusdi is seeking to dis-associate himself with Lion Air G...

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by VSMUT
Mon May 03, 2021 6:00 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Boeing 787 options if the 777x fails.
Replies: 27
Views: 6359

Re: Boeing 787 options if the 777x fails.

4-5 hours is not an insignificant distance. But how many sales does that translate to, and how many production slots that Boeing wasn't able to fill anyway? IMO, next to nothing. Once this crisis is over, Boeing will have no problems selling all the 787s they can build, even without new variants. I...

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by VSMUT
Mon May 03, 2021 4:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkmenistan Airlines orders two A330-200P2Fs
Replies: 54
Views: 12071

Re: Turkmenistan Airlines orders two A330-200P2Fs

https://www.myairtrade.com/available/A330 This link is a good reference for available A330 in the market, although some recent ones (Air Namibia for example) have not been listed yet, some may have been scrapped or in process of doing so. The youngest A333ceo conversion so far was MSN1124 ex-Hong K...

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by VSMUT
Mon May 03, 2021 4:31 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Boeing 787 options if the 777x fails.
Replies: 27
Views: 6359

Re: Boeing 787 options if the 777x fails.

We actually agree mostly. The 787 is a very good aircraft and if the 777x indeed succeeds, the 787 is perfectly placed to grow more capable with future efficiency improvements with the current wing/MLG and MTOW. However, if the 777x does struggle to gain market traction (not extremely likely, but n...

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by VSMUT
Mon May 03, 2021 4:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkmenistan Airlines orders two A330-200P2Fs
Replies: 54
Views: 12071

Re: Turkmenistan Airlines orders two A330-200P2Fs

https://www.myairtrade.com/available/A330 This link is a good reference for available A330 in the market, although some recent ones (Air Namibia for example) have not been listed yet, some may have been scrapped or in process of doing so. The youngest A333ceo conversion so far was MSN1124 ex-Hong K...

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by VSMUT
Sun May 02, 2021 8:45 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Is it possible to access the cargo compartment from the passenger compartment?
Replies: 52
Views: 18951

Re: Is it possible to access the cargo compartment from the passenger compartment?

https://youtu.be/LxS2RR-Vx_s Access to the A350's forward hold via the E&E compartment at 1:22 Compared to the A330, the A350 hatch is nicely off to the side and a bit out of the way. The wide cockpit can accommodate that position. On the A330 it is right in front of the cockpit door, which you...

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by VSMUT
Sun May 02, 2021 5:24 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Boeing 787 options if the 777x fails.
Replies: 27
Views: 6359

Re: Boeing 787 options if the 777x fails.

So what are the options Boeing has if the 777x fails to gain sufficient market traction? AFAIK, 777x is all systems go and Boeing is adjusting timing to allow it to optimise delivery timeline and maximise performance. What do you know that I don't? Fails to gain market traction isn't the same as th...

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by VSMUT
Sun May 02, 2021 5:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkmenistan Airlines orders two A330-200P2Fs
Replies: 54
Views: 12071

Re: Turkmenistan Airlines orders two A330-200P2Fs

If this was the case, why has the A330-200F sold so poorly compared with the 1986-tech 767F? Easy, because of acquisition cost and availability. A new build A330-200F had a list price of around 250 mio. USD. Second hand 767s went for between 7 and 30 mio. USD. The A330P2F didn't really become a wid...

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by VSMUT
Sun May 02, 2021 4:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air creates Super Air Jet, a new airline
Replies: 80
Views: 18398

Re: Lion Air creates Super Air Jet, a new airline

Interesting that they have chosen the A320 for the new airline, not the 737NG of which Lion Air have far more. Does it denote the beginnings of a seismic shift? That happened a while ago. Lion Air flies the 737NG and A330-300 and -900. Thai Lion has the 737NG. Wings Air is all ATR. Malindo is ATR a...

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by VSMUT
Sun May 02, 2021 3:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air creates Super Air Jet, a new airline
Replies: 80
Views: 18398

Re: Lion Air creates Super Air Jet, a new airline

Give it some time, it'll over run some runway in Indonesia. Believe it or not, the A320 series has been almost completely free from runway excursions in Lion Group. It's the 737s that run off the runways. But is the the Lion Air Group that is starting a new airline, or just the same guys behind it?...

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by VSMUT
Sun May 02, 2021 3:44 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Boeing 787 options if the 777x fails.
Replies: 27
Views: 6359

Re: Boeing 787 options if the 777x fails.

Focus on improving the already existing 787 variants. Shave some weight, aerodynamic enhancements and fine tuning, incremental engine improvements, enhancements to the interior. The 787 is a very good aircraft, no need to reinvent the wheel. As for MTOM improments, no I don't agree. The 787 is alrea...

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by VSMUT
Sun May 02, 2021 7:20 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Covid19 Vaccine Experience Thread
Replies: 152
Views: 21041

Re: Shall I take the COVID 19 vaccine?

In Hong Kong we can choose between the China made Sinovac and the German made Biontech. I prefer the German made Biontech. Shall I go for it? In general I am healthy though I drink from time to time. Just worried that I have some hidden health issues. LOL The Pfizer-Biontech is probably the best Co...

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by VSMUT
Sun May 02, 2021 7:12 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why doesn’t FR24 include the 717 in its database ?
Replies: 4
Views: 1202

Re: Why doesn’t FR24 include the 717 in its database ?

What do you mean? It is the middle of the night in the US right now, but if I set it to show yesterday afternoon I can find at least four Delta 717s around Atlanta and at least four Hawaiian 717s in Hawaii.

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by VSMUT
Sun May 02, 2021 5:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkmenistan Airlines orders two A330-200P2Fs
Replies: 54
Views: 12071

Re: Turkmenistan Airlines orders two A330-200P2Fs

If this was the case, why has the A330-200F sold so poorly compared with the 1986-tech 767F? Easy, because of acquisition cost and availability. A new build A330-200F had a list price of around 250 mio. USD. Second hand 767s went for between 7 and 30 mio. USD. The A330P2F didn't really become a wid...

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by VSMUT
Sun May 02, 2021 5:52 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Are some countries banning crews depending on their recent air trips?
Replies: 15
Views: 3663

Re: Are some countries banning crews depending on their recent air trips?

The US just banned people from India as well. Back to the OP: any country that takes such action against flight crews does so at their own peril. At my airline we have told countries we’ll simply stop flying there and reallocate that capacity elsewhere when they have proposed certain things like th...

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by VSMUT
Sat May 01, 2021 8:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: European airport architecture
Replies: 9
Views: 3469

Re: European airport architecture

The point was that when the terminal at those 2 airports were designed and built by different companies, you would expect different architectural styles since commonality of design doesn't give much of a construction cost saving as if a single company had designed/built both airports. Luton and Sta...

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by VSMUT
Sat May 01, 2021 8:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkmenistan Airlines orders two A330-200P2Fs
Replies: 54
Views: 12071

Re: Turkmenistan Airlines orders two A330-200P2Fs

Another couple of customers: MasAir in Mexico is getting 2x A330-200P2F. They currently fly the 767. https://www.aircargonews.net/airlines/masair-to-lease-two-airbus-a330-200p2fs-from-altavair/ MNG in Turkey is getting 2x A330-300P2F. https://www.aircargonews.net/freight-forwarder/mng-airlines-order...

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by VSMUT
Sat May 01, 2021 10:37 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Crashes of commercial flights due to pitot covers left on
Replies: 10
Views: 3725

Re: Crashes of commercial flights due to pitot covers left on

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birgenair_Flight_301

Pitot tubes get really hot when heating is on. I've seen them glowing red-hot. If you left the cover on, it would probably melt/burn off.
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Birgenair 301, a 757, suspected that wasps had built a nest in one of the pitot tubes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birgenair_Flight_301

Pitot tubes get really hot when heating is on. I've seen them glowing red-hot. If you left the cover on, it would probably melt/burn off.

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by VSMUT
Sat May 01, 2021 9:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bamboo's Embraer E-Jets Fleet - News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 137
Views: 24850

Re: Bamboo's Embraer E-Jets Fleet - News and Discussion Thread

https://check-in.dk/nordjysk-vietnam-ev ... -til-juni/

But weirdly on Facebook they are looking for pilots with immediate start for a 6-month contract in Vietnam. Another extension coming up?
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Locked article, but the headline says Great Dane is ending in mid-June:
https://check-in.dk/nordjysk-vietnam-ev ... -til-juni/

But weirdly on Facebook they are looking for pilots with immediate start for a 6-month contract in Vietnam. Another extension coming up?

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by VSMUT
Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group reports Q1 loss, negative continued outlook
Replies: 40
Views: 8409

Re: Lufthansa Group reports Q1 loss, negative continued outlook

Its going to be brutal for these large high-cost legacy airlines that relied on longhaul and business traffic as a significantificant portion of their revenue base. It doesn't help that Lufthansa has done its level best to alienate its most loyal customers. BoB service, 3rd party lounges cut, no co...

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by VSMUT
Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:07 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: I'm in Crypto Now
Replies: 87
Views: 9005

Re: I'm in Crypto Now

When ordinary citizens start investing, it is time to sell. The crypto hype reminds me of something that happened 92 years ago. For the German speakers: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dienstm%C3%A4dchenhausse Haha, I was actually looking for that famous quote from an economist who sold all his stock...

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by VSMUT
Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:18 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Seatback IFE vs. Streaming To Device vs. Nothing
Replies: 20
Views: 4142

Re: Seatback IFE vs. Streaming To Device vs. Nothing

I'm in the seatback IFE camp. Although I do appreciate streaming IFE if offered, used it a lot when I flew aboard SilkAir's A320s which only had overhead drop-downs. However, I don't like streaming IFE since some airlines require me to download an app just to play videos (which is a hassle IMO). Th...

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by VSMUT
Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:57 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: I'm in Crypto Now
Replies: 87
Views: 9005

Re: I'm in Crypto Now

Crypto is the new MLM scheme trend. If it could stand on it's own two feet then I wouldn't constantly be getting messages from anonymous facebook/twitter/whatsapp/reddit accounts telling me to invest and that I should be worried about missing out... I only invest in what I understand and I have no ...

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by VSMUT
Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:09 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: I'm in Crypto Now
Replies: 87
Views: 9005

Re: I'm in Crypto Now

When ordinary citizens start investing, it is time to sell.

The crypto hype reminds me of something that happened 92 years ago.

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by VSMUT
Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:19 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Any chances of getting a EASA medical class 1 when exceeding vision limits?
Replies: 17
Views: 6732

Re: Any chances of getting a EASA medical class 1 when exceeding vision limits?

The guarantee got put up 3 years ago because of the banks here getting stuck with pilots not being able to pay their loans back, so they started refusing any loan. Maybe it is a good idea to listen to the banks in this case. The banks and you do have a mutual interest here. Also, do you think if th...

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by VSMUT
Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:48 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: ID of Fokker 27 in West Africa
Replies: 1
Views: 677

Re: ID of Fokker 27 in West Africa

There were probably hundreds of Fokker 27s that ended their careers in Africa. Got any details?

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by VSMUT
Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Serbia Unveils Special Livery For Its Second A332
Replies: 37
Views: 10585

Re: Air Serbia Unveils Special Livery For Its Second A332

Here are some pictures of the interior, the plane was presented to the media today. Later on in the day it will operate the first scheduled flight to JFK. https://www.exyuaviation.com/2021/04/air-serbia-unveils-new-long-haul-product.html The economy seats are the old-style Aeroflot seats with new u...

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by VSMUT
Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:28 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Any chances of getting a EASA medical class 1 when exceeding vision limits?
Replies: 17
Views: 6732

Re: Any chances of getting a EASA medical class 1 when exceeding vision limits?

I think I'd agree with Starlionblue. Never got to your FAA guy asking about a problem first. Once you've told your FAA guy about a problem he has no choice but to pursue it. I was lucky for a few years to have a PCP who was also my FAA doctor. He made a point of saying "if you come to me, PCP,...

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by VSMUT
Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing aims to evenly spilt narrowbody aircraft market share
Replies: 234
Views: 24375

Re: Boeing aims to evenly spilt narrowbody aircraft market share

Deliveries are all that matters. Boeing had a 49% split in 2018. :thumbsdown: That is the mentality that got Boeing mired in the 787 mess. An excellent world beating aircraft, sold so cheaply that they still haven't made money on it. Market share is not everything, they have to focus on profit as w...

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by VSMUT
Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada phasing out a 777-300ER
Replies: 50
Views: 18775

Re: Air Canada phasing out a 777-300ER

I believe Air France also have a high-density layout on part of their B777-300ER fleet, with 400+ seats aswell. That's right, a 468 and a 472 seat layout. The AF 77W have only 24 j seats so they would naturally have more economy seats. These planes are used to the French Caribbean and Indian Ocean ...

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by VSMUT
Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Reuters: Airbus launches A350 freighter
Replies: 1858
Views: 348141

Re: A350F. Airbus looking to launch: Looking for customers

The A330F is nowhere here nor there. Insufficient payload range to compete effectively all year round both directions on TATL routes with the 777F or even the 747F, yet too big for the tightly spaced stands at the mega hubs of FedEx and UPS, where the 767s fit nicely into (note that most stands in ...

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by VSMUT
Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Reuters: Airbus launches A350 freighter
Replies: 1858
Views: 348141

Re: A350F. Airbus looking to launch: Looking for customers

The A330F is nowhere here nor there. Insufficient payload range to compete effectively all year round both directions on TATL routes with the 777F or even the 747F, yet too big for the tightly spaced stands at the mega hubs of FedEx and UPS, where the 767s fit nicely into (note that most stands in ...

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by VSMUT
Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:22 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Any chances of getting a EASA medical class 1 when exceeding vision limits?
Replies: 17
Views: 6732

Re: Any chances of getting a EASA medical class 1 when exceeding vision limits?

If so, I guess I will get some limitation on my medical like OML (what even is the point of OML, aren't almost all commercial jets like b737 or airbus a320 Multi-crew?) or something worse? And would (major) airlines have big problems with those limitations? A problem I see is that you will have tro...

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by VSMUT
Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Italy 2.0 with Sukhoi and A321LR aircraft with OLB base in the works
Replies: 19
Views: 5658

Re: Air Italy 2.0 with Sukhoi and A321LR aircraft with OLB base in the works

Someone83 wrote:
Has the Superjet even the range for these routes?


At full load, the LR version can reach all. The basic version will have to trade payload for fuel to reach Keflavik. The Superjet is designed to reach the Russian Far East from Moscow, so the LR has a 2500 nm range.

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by VSMUT
Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:15 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Poll: Business travellers planning to cut future flights
Replies: 8
Views: 1667

Re: Poll: Business travellers planning to cut future flights

IMO, business travel will return, faster than leisure will. Several of the reasons are listed up above. Another point is that there are simply not a lot of flights available, forcing travellers to take alternative methods in use (driving, trains, coaches and even business jets). Some will stay, but ...

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by VSMUT
Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada phasing out a 777-300ER
Replies: 50
Views: 18775

Re: Air Canada phasing out a 777-300ER

Air Canada has what has to be the world densest 77W with 450 seats and only 6 bathrooms in economy. Close. Azur Air seats up to 531, Nordwind has 486 seats, Rossiya 457 and Royal Flight 492. Saudia is close with some aircraft in a 443 seat configuration. I believe Air France also have a high-densit...

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by VSMUT
Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada phasing out a 777-300ER
Replies: 50
Views: 18775

Re: Air Canada phasing out a 777-300ER

jfk777 wrote:
Air Canada has what has to be the world densest 77W with 450 seats and only 6 bathrooms in economy.


Close. Azur Air seats up to 531, Nordwind has 486 seats, Rossiya 457 and Royal Flight 492. Saudia is close with some aircraft in a 443 seat configuration.

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by VSMUT
Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Italy 2.0 with Sukhoi and A321LR aircraft with OLB base in the works
Replies: 19
Views: 5658

Re: Air Italy 2.0 with Sukhoi and A321LR aircraft with OLB base in the works

I wish him good luck. It's gonna be a challenge, but Italy (and Europe) need some alternatives to the current incumbents. And in any case, it is going to result in money being invested in the economy. He has an interesting point on aircraft size actually. When competing against the LCC's, smaller ai...

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by VSMUT
Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: ANA to retire 35 aircraft in 2020
Replies: 128
Views: 37824

Re: Updated: ANA to retire 35 aircraft in 2020

ANA sold/stored the 737-700ERs ~5 years ago. Not just sold/stored, but scrapped. They only lasted 9 years. When you had no belly space (all filled with fuel tanks) and had some special locked cabinet inside the cabin for checked luggage, and even with that an enroute fuel stop is scheduled over the...

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by VSMUT
Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: ANA to retire 35 aircraft in 2020
Replies: 128
Views: 37824

Re: Updated: ANA to retire 35 aircraft in 2020

Polot wrote:
LAXintl wrote:
Besides is traditional domestic use, ANA had some creative roles for 737-700 with its business class "ANA Business Jet" used on longer-haul routes to places like India.

ANA sold/stored the 737-700ERs ~5 years ago.


Not just sold/stored, but scrapped. They only lasted 9 years.

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