If indeed it is an MCAS induced crash then the primary responsibility is Ethiopian’s training. After the Lion crash Boeing put out an emergency bulletin explaining the problem and telling the pilots EXACTLY what to do if they encountered a similar problem. Any MAX pilot who did not get this informa...
Jump to postI don't believe the FAA will ground the 737max right now as there is so little information about what happened. However, If one airline decides now to ground the 737max, many others will follow, just because you don't want your customers to feel you care less about their life compared to other airli...
Jump to postOEMInsider wrote:Aither wrote:
Not even close,................
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Going through the thread It seems the Max is an unstable plane with a fix which is just a software fix. Am I correct ? is it the only popular commercial plane like this ? We don't know the reasons for the crashes but one thing is ceertain, I hate the idea of being on an unstable flying machine with ...
Jump to postFirst sincere condolences to all the victims. A thought also for the employees of Ethiopian Airlines. This is a great company with great people which totally deserves its success. During these times you always wonder what you have been doing wrong. The investigation will tell but I'm certain I will ...
Jump to postEmirates' business model is not to fit as many people on a plane as possible. Emirates' business model (as stated repeatedly by Tim Clark and the sheikh dude) is to connect secondary cities to primary and other secondary cities. ...which is possible only if you bring mass volumes of demand at a giv...
Jump to postI'm wondering how this news will go down with ANA. They might have got to really love their 3 A380's and want a few more. Oh well. I'm hoping Airbus signaled All airlines (I'm looking at you BA, ANA, etc) to make a now or never move on the a380s before today's announcement. I'd be very Surprised if...
Jump to postToo bad. The A380 is a real cash machine for us. We need it for our network. Hope Boeing will launch a bigger 77X.
Jump to postI agree that spotters are actually useful to check what's around the airport as well.
Jump to postTrafic between Africa and Asia x4 in 5 years...and people saying EK should replace A380 with smaller aircraft...?
Jump to postJust think what "cool" comes from Paris or France nowadays. Just basically... nothing. . A country of 65m ranking No 6 in term of GDP with free education, healthcare, 5 weeks paid holidays, top level infrastructure etc. Yeah, true they don't build the iPhone. I guess it depends of our pri...
Jump to postEChid wrote:We can bargain about the A380's role with BA, LH, or EK...but with AF it's been very clear.
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In the end CDG is not a popular hub in Europe - it is known as the baggage black hole. Being popular is one thing ... but AF often offers the cheapest fare from many non-hub airports in Europe ... I live in LUX and they are nearly everytime the cheapest option .. but I still avoid them because I do...
Jump to postWell EK tried that to Europe and look what happened, all the European carriers are for the most part intact, and politics was used to ensure that EK could not get the frequencies and or access they needed to airports. Certainly not intact on routes to Asia. EK only needs one daily frequency, which ...
Jump to postAir France does not make some A380s work but the A380 works for France... There were never so many VLAs flying between Europe and Asia. It's just that *one* airline is taking all the traffic... 1 A380 less for Air France is 1 A380 more for Emirates. The negociation power of EK is already huge but at...
Jump to postThey are now more freedom to build something nice at the new Beijing airport unless Air China/Chinese authorities block them.
PEK-LAX with A380s? that would be great.
If QF gets the premium passengers from their other flights sure it's the most profitable flight, but is the network overall more profitable ? So far we don't know.
Jump to postI remember a few years ago Shanghai - Beijing accounted for half of the profits of China Eastern...
It's not only people are working in CBD, but also the most affluent live in the North East of the city, in dsitricts like Shunyi, close to PEK.
High chances this would be funded by the Chinese under the one road one belt policy.
Jump to postStTim wrote:DLHAM wrote:I think it depends on if Airline XY can fill the extra seats the 77X offers.
And actually how many of those extra seats need to be filled to get better profitability
"will focus more on serving Abu Dhabi, where it’s based, than carrying globe-trotting passengers between continents."
Sounds contradicting : serving more by reducing the number of flights & routes that exist only because of these transit passengers...
ME3 : EK, QR and...TK
FromCDGtoSYD wrote:SFOA380 wrote:Also amazing that the entirety of service to 2nd tier cities is only slightly more than PEK-LAX. WOW!
Keep in mind most of these routes are 2-3 weekly with A330-200s
The huge victory of the 330 was Airbus taking advantage of the 787s years of delays and initial high cost of production. They sold hundreds. Most of us see that window has shut. That huge victory came at a price. A price they are paying right now. They could had spent that time launching the neo ea...
Jump to postI think it's too early to make conclusions. The A330 fleet is quite young and most of the 787 orders in 2017 were again from non A330 operators. The A330neo is expected to be in the same ballpark than the 787 in term of performance but for the current A330 operators it will remain a much easier tran...
Jump to postWe can blame the A380 for not being more cost/seat effective than new generation smaller widebody aircraft. But it is at least as good. The seat cost is only one side of the profit equation. The revenues, how much it maximizes the market capture on the most demanded flights, how much it improves the...
Jump to posthttp://i68.tinypic.com/i4h5kx.gif The map above shows all long-haul nonstop links to destinations in Europe and North America that Air China currently serves out of PEK. Due to CAAC’s protectionist and infamously disputed policy of “One Route One Carrier”for Chinese airlines, CA has effectively hel...
Jump to postSo If I understand correctly: For 1) a Chinese airline should make sure it flies no more than 12 weekly (both ways) to be almost sure there would be no additional competition... Theoretically, that can indeed be a likely means for a Chinese carrier to circumvent the first requirement to block compe...
Jump to postSo If I understand correctly: For 1) a Chinese airline should make sure it flies no more than 12 weekly (both ways) to be almost sure there would be no additional competition... For 2) " an existing Chinese carrier has served the route solely for more than 6 years" : so this does not apply...
Jump to postI doubt there is a single China - US route making money. If it does it's probably after taking into account some "big picture" effects like these routes could help to secure some big corporate contracts. The " incentives " given my the Chinese provinces are largely responsible fo...
Jump to postSome telling ranking lists could be culled per the chart with the link in Post #20 Top 10 routes with highest load btwn mainland China and continental US (both ways combined for Jan-Sept 2017) 1 CAN-LAX 89.7% 2 PVG-DTW 88.4% 3 CAN-JFK 87.8% 4 PEK-DTW 87.5% 5 PVG-EWR 86.7% 6 CAN-SFO 86.4% 7 PEK-EWR ...
Jump to postGood thread but to me the #1 question is how do these flights sustain themselves when prices are cheaper than dirt. Midwest USA to China < $600 through spring break season. Mind blowing in comparison to Europe Hawaii or S America Yeah I know someone will say they make it up in the front of the plan...
Jump to postThe 787 is flying farther than the A350 is today, at similar (if not the same) capacities and 55,000lbs less weight. Probably the airlines having ordered A350s did not know that... Obviously it depends of each airline but typically I'd rather choose one type of aircraft and eventually different ver...
Jump to postBoeings has split the 777's original market between the 787 and 777X. If you operated 777's ultra long haul with low density cabins you would go 777-8's. If you operated 777's for medium haul you would go 787-10's. If you operated 777 routes that you were struggling to fill you would downgauge to a...
Jump to postHub and spoke is fading and point-to-point is expanding. The A380 only works for hub-and-spoke and even then only in a limited number of airports. That's Boeing propaganda. The reality is the opposite. More and more people go through more efficient and attractive hubs on long haul markets, even whe...
Jump to postCZ at Guangzhou is the only effective international hub in China. Unfortunately it's not so well located. A combination of CZ / Beijing second airport which will be optimized for hub operations could potentially shake a lot of things. I insist on "potentially" because Air China will block ...
Jump to postAnother interesting study on fuel burn, posted on http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1383931 https://www.theicct.org/sites/default/files/publications/Transpacific-airline-fuel-efficiency-ranking-2016_ICCT-white-paper_16012018_vF.pdf This report actually shows VLA on a ULH missio...
Jump to postRe the discussion of airport costs between Revelation and others, another data point is Vienna's ~$20mn for an A380 gate: http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=601421. That's below the ~$55mn [168/3] from the Boston case and above the $600k from the YUL case. I want to point out if $20mn i...
Jump to postI didn't remember seeing this before, but if so, I see what you mean. 20 for CX? Yeah it's ridiculous. Aither's argument is that CX needed to balance flying to U.S. with Europe flights and that EK prevented those Europe flights. There are so many problems with the whole thing that I didn't even res...
Jump to postAlso, according to my knowledge, when CZ use A380 in CAN-PEK, even if the flight were full, they still can't gain any profit from it due to the stage length being too short for the plane's optimal stage length You should double check your knowledge. Yields are so high on domestic routes that any ai...
Jump to postThat's how Emirates carries much more passengers than they sell tickets...
Jump to postWhy not ? the 4 engines is the optimum choice for a double decker (2 engines per deck). We're not talking about A340 here...
Jump to postThat sadly ignores realities like the geographical placement of your hubs. The US3 would face much bigger problems if they would move all traffic to maybe 2 megahubs each, as other airlines could connect the secondary cities (which still would have huge catchment areas) directly to their hub. And i...
Jump to postHow do you get these 4x daily ? on long haul routes almost nobody flies more than 2 and then flying above 2 one of the flights is often a 747 or an A380. I agree there are a few counter examples but these are exceptions typically from airlines not having enough such routes to order a sub fleet of 7...
Jump to postThat sadly ignores realities like the geographical placement of your hubs. The US3 would face much bigger problems if they would move all traffic to maybe 2 megahubs each, as other airlines could connect the secondary cities (which still would have huge catchment areas) directly to their hub. And i...
Jump to postI think the A380 is a Alliance plane, to connect the hubs in different continents. I think the ideal rotation rate for a alliance between hubs is 4x daily. If a alliance has a demand above 1600 daily passengers (4x 400pax) or 584k passengers annually, a larger plane than the 777 or A350 is required...
Jump to postEK will be fine, but in the future I expect they will have lower yields. High-yield traffic prefers direct flights. Connecting traffic in general will always be lower yield. EK, as a superconnector, will basically be put into a situation where they serve two markets... 1. the premium traffic from a...
Jump to postConsidering the regions around EK are the most populous and fastest growing ones in the world + Etihad & Qatar not going so well, I think it's quite reasonable to think that EK still has a lot of potential to grow, in particular with the new airport. 787-10 serving smaller markets & schedule...
Jump to postI was surprised to see the A330neo not selling so well. It's the best aircraft for regional routes and airlines with a low utilization rate of their fleet. The best explanation I have is this year most of the widebody orders were coming from airlines with deep pockets. They want the newest stuff tha...
Jump to postAnd many single aisle routes have reached a frequency of service that provides no yield advantage any more. So growth comes through bigger planes (see A321 market share) and the MoM will dig into that. A380 work in a similar way, but on longhaul there are not that many pairs of destinations that ha...
Jump to postOn the side topic of the MoM although I see the logic you should not forget that adding another type of aircraft in a fleet must justified by more than replacing some flights on a handful of high density, typically short haul routes. The thickest routes consume the most number of narrow body aircra...
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