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by cledaybuck
Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation - 2024
Replies: 798
Views: 55987

Re: Cleveland Aviation - 2024

United created six Super Bowl ads featuring Kyle Chandler, five of which are city-specific and one is for general use. The five tailored versions are for: Cleveland Chicago Houston Denver Kansas City Below is the link to Cleveland's commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u6jEqwFpC8 How did th...

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by cledaybuck
Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US carriers 4th quarter 2023 earnings
Replies: 247
Views: 41052

Re: US carriers 4th quarter 2023 earnings

Would you like to expand on the 'its business model is different' remark? It looks like it's going to be a fairly short list of U.S. carriers 4Q23 that made 4.3% pre-tax margins. Apparently, its business model makes money. That seems to be the big difference from NK and F9. NK and F9 have a proven ...

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by cledaybuck
Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US carriers 4th quarter 2023 earnings
Replies: 247
Views: 41052

Re: US carriers 4th quarter 2023 earnings

1) Allegiant isn't really a ULCC, its fundamentally a different operation than Frontier or Spirit. True there are some similarities in service, but its business model is different. 2) Hard to pretend Allegiant's Q4 was great - it wasn't. Regardless of the resort. Yes, it made a profit, but its noth...

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by cledaybuck
Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US carriers 4th quarter 2023 earnings
Replies: 247
Views: 41052

Re: US carriers 4th quarter 2023 earnings

Allegiant's earnings are out. There are special charges, and they take pains to separate the carrier from the Sunseeker Resport operation. https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001362468/7aa731f7-7966-4c77-8924-5172086049b3.pdf Highlights: • Operating income, excluding specials, of $19.5M, yie...

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by cledaybuck
Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US carriers 4th quarter 2023 earnings
Replies: 247
Views: 41052

Re: US carriers 4th quarter 2023 earnings

Hawaiian Air Posted Q4 loss $101.2mil on $669.1mil in revenues and full year loss $260.5mil on some $2.72bil in revenue. https://newsroom.hawaiianairlines.com/releases/hawaiian-holdings-reports-2023-fourth-quarter-and-full-year-financial-results Yikes. They beat the estimates but operating margin w...

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by cledaybuck
Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New quality glitch to delay some Boeing 737 MAX deliveries
Replies: 54
Views: 9208

Re: New quality glitch to delay some Boeing 737 MAX deliveries

\ There are still P8s and E7s being produced with the CFM56 engine. I stand corrected. I do wonder if Boeing can backtrack, with so many orders and the supply chain committed. But even then, the issue isn't a fundamental design issue, it's a quality issue and they can poorly build a 737-NG just as ...

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by cledaybuck
Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Clark: Emirates will inspect 777 production
Replies: 27
Views: 7148

Re: Clark: Emirates will inspect 777 production

In the article, he said "Will Boeing restore itself to its former glory? Of course it will." I really doubt Boeing will or can revert back to pre Boeing-McD days. Those days are absolutely gone. A company that is run on primarily satisifying the shareholder value will never be that compan...

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by cledaybuck
Mon Feb 05, 2024 6:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Clark: Emirates will inspect 777 production
Replies: 27
Views: 7148

Re: Clark: Emirates will inspect 777 production

In the article, he said "Will Boeing restore itself to its former glory? Of course it will." I really doubt Boeing will or can revert back to pre Boeing-McD days. Those days are absolutely gone. A company that is run on primarily satisifying the shareholder value will never be that compan...

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by cledaybuck
Mon Feb 05, 2024 2:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New quality glitch to delay some Boeing 737 MAX deliveries
Replies: 54
Views: 9208

Re: New quality glitch to delay some Boeing 737 MAX deliveries

Honestly, I think it's time to pull the type. It will cause massive upheaval, but Boeing can either develop a new type and do it the right way or they can go bankrupt and cede the entire market to Airbus. But I would have done this back in 2019. And if we had, Boeing might be most of the way to a N...

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by cledaybuck
Mon Feb 05, 2024 2:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New quality glitch to delay some Boeing 737 MAX deliveries
Replies: 54
Views: 9208

Re: New quality glitch to delay some Boeing 737 MAX deliveries

Honestly, I think it's time to pull the type. It will cause massive upheaval, but Boeing can either develop a new type and do it the right way or they can go bankrupt and cede the entire market to Airbus. But I would have done this back in 2019. And if we had, Boeing might be most of the way to a N...

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by cledaybuck
Fri Feb 02, 2024 7:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024
Replies: 645
Views: 81711

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

Furthermore, I'd imagine it'd be a logistical nightmare to have a subfleet of -800s and MAX 8s with higher seating capacity alongside older -800s and MAX 8s that haven't been retrofitted—especially since SWA likes to swap airplanes at a moment's notice and have most of the fleet being interchangabl...

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by cledaybuck
Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:27 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What was the largest airline operation to go bankrupt?
Replies: 28
Views: 3341

Re: What was the largest airline operation to go bankrupt?

https://www.nytimes.com/1991/01/19/busi ... ssets.html
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I believe the OP is looking for the largest airline that actually shut down. I don't know the answer, but it appears Eastern Airlines had 190 planes when it stopped flying.

https://www.nytimes.com/1991/01/19/busi ... ssets.html

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by cledaybuck
Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Peace Demands Heathrow
Replies: 76
Views: 16763

Re: Air Peace Demands Heathrow

jmc1975 wrote:
I suppose it wasn’t a Peaceful demand.

All they are saying is give Peace a chance.

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by cledaybuck
Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing has withdrawn its request for an exemption on the 737-7
Replies: 70
Views: 14189

Re: Boeing has withdrawn its request for an exemption on the 737-7

Not really since a plane's life is measured in flight hours and pressurisation cycles. except for corrosion, polymer and fluids degradation, batteries aging and some similar things. Those are minor in comparison and would be effectively “zeroed” by Boeing prior to delivery. They’ve got plenty of ex...

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by cledaybuck
Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing has withdrawn its request for an exemption on the 737-7
Replies: 70
Views: 14189

Re: Boeing has withdrawn its request for an exemption on the 737-7

...so what automation exist that would have prevented the humans from making that blunder, is there some auto taxi option that listens to ATC and follows their instructions? As long as humans are in the cockpit and required to make decisions the possibility of error remains, until everything is aut...

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by cledaybuck
Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US carriers 4th quarter 2023 earnings
Replies: 247
Views: 41052

Re: US carriers 4th quarter 2023 earnings

This doesn't seem good. For the first quarter of 2024, JetBlue expects available seat miles (ASMs) to decrease by 6.0% to 3.0%, with revenue projected to be down by 9.0% to 5.0%. CASM Ex-Fuel is expected to increase by 9.0% to 11.0%, and the company is approaching breakeven adjusted operating margin...

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by cledaybuck
Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS MAX9 Returning to service Friday
Replies: 112
Views: 19913

Re: AS MAX9 Returning to service Friday

I think in all the big uhhh I’m not sure about the max10 statements they are really just fishing for a big discount Boeing is printing up several "BOGO" coupons for AS to use on their next few MAX 8 frames. ;) I imagine Boeing is having to print them out like Kohl’s cash at the moment. Lo...

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by cledaybuck
Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spirit Airlines News and Discussion - 2024
Replies: 214
Views: 26284

Re: Spirit Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

I wouldn’t exactly call 4x daily Delta flights highly competitive in regard to Spirit…. they serve different customer bases. Yes and no. I suppose if you're a judge, you can call the people buying commoditized air transport from the same two geographic catchments "different customer bases.&quo...

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by cledaybuck
Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why is Ryanair able to post record profits, but US ULCCs struggle?
Replies: 102
Views: 12705

Re: Why is Ryanair able to post record profits, but US ULCCs struggle?

ethernal wrote:
The scale of the US4 versus European flag carriers - .

Don't forget about the scale of Ryanair vs. airlines like NK or F9 too.

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by cledaybuck
Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EASA Extends A320ceo Wing Fatigue Cracking Inspections To All A320neo Models
Replies: 21
Views: 3869

Re: EASA Extends A320ceo Wing Fatigue Cracking Inspections To All A320neo Models

anshabhi wrote:
And even for NEOs only those that have exceeded 4000 Flying Hours are required to undergo this inspection.

That's not a lot. Probably only about a year of flying on most planes.

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by cledaybuck
Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US carriers 4th quarter 2023 earnings
Replies: 247
Views: 41052

Re: US carriers 4th quarter 2023 earnings

Southwest takes $426 million 4Q23 charge for new pilot contract and reports a GAAP Net Income loss. DALLAS, TEXAS - January 25, 2024 - Southwest Airlines Co. (NYSE: LUV) (the “Company”) today reported its fourth quarter and full year 2023 financial results: • Fourth quarter net loss of $219 million...

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by cledaybuck
Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US carriers 4th quarter 2023 earnings
Replies: 247
Views: 41052

Re: US carriers 4th quarter 2023 earnings

WN also cut 83 firm orders for 7M8s from the 10/23 Order Book. Where does WN say they cut 83 7m8s from the 10/23 order Book? What is said is that 85 were expected and 86 were delivered. 21 are left to be delivered from previous year/s added to the 58 expected max 8 deliveries this year for the 79 m...

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by cledaybuck
Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue Network - 2024
Replies: 764
Views: 92810

Re: JetBlue Network - 2024

That’s exactly what I was going to say. Basically sum this up as JetBlue has missed every opportunity,. Can’t grow anywhere and will never succeed. It’s fascinating I swear blue is the one airline airliners.net would love to see go away. I don’t think anyone wants JetBlue to liquidate, but their ma...

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by cledaybuck
Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024
Replies: 300
Views: 28792

Re: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024

It's a single daily flight. Yes it's a lot of daily seats but you seem to keep forgetting that F9 was flying this route before the pandemic when both AA and DL were also flying the route. Nobody dropped the route then (other than the route being a casualty of the pandemic cuts) so why would it be d...

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by cledaybuck
Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections
Replies: 3147
Views: 417665

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

What i still don.t understand is why Boeing didn.t went ahead with NSA back in 2014..The NG sold well at that time so plenty of time to go for a brandnew design.. Sure Airbus re engined the A320 but i guess the NSA would outsell it after a while.. There were a lot of customers wanting it back then....

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by cledaybuck
Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024
Replies: 300
Views: 28792

Re: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024

Also, with Breeze flying MSN, GSP, and similar sized Metros population-wise to CAK, your assumption that smaller markets are not likely succeed flying to LAX is about to be put to the test. Personally, I hope it works, as it would give some hope to many mid size/smaller airports that have been losi...

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by cledaybuck
Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024
Replies: 300
Views: 28792

Re: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024

It's a single daily flight. Yes it's a lot of daily seats but you seem to keep forgetting that F9 was flying this route before the pandemic when both AA and DL were also flying the route. Nobody dropped the route then (other than the route being a casualty of the pandemic cuts) so why would it be d...

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by cledaybuck
Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: F9 large scale route announcement covering 38 airports
Replies: 15
Views: 4689

Re: F9 large scale route announcement covering 38 airports

Being discussed in other threads, but I believe deserving of its own discussion. F9 is unleashing its old dartboard route network approach. Tons of new routes, although many have been flown at one point or another, plus many head-to-head with AA. Summary by airport below: ATL: MSP - 4X weekly BNA: ...

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by cledaybuck
Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024
Replies: 300
Views: 28792

Re: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024

F9 is resuming daily CVG-LGA service (ended before Covid). I also see MSP/PHX resuming as well, there might be more. Still hoping for CVG-CLT/IAH/SFO/SJU on F9. CVG-LGA seems odd. Do they think they can run AA off the route? F9 ran this route daily before the pandemic. I highly doubt the are lookin...

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by cledaybuck
Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024
Replies: 300
Views: 28792

Re: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024

Consider me extremely confident that CAK-LAX it will be successful and sustainable. Why is that? Number one, there is a great number of people that travel to the Southern California area for vacation, family, and business in the Akron/Canton area. Number two, with the airport being in the epicenter...

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by cledaybuck
Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024
Replies: 300
Views: 28792

Re: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024

https://ishrionaviation.com/news/breeze ... greenville

Consider me extremely skeptical that this is going to last.
Consider me extremely confident that CAK-LAX it will be successful and sustainable.

Why is that?
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Manderson12 wrote:
cledaybuck wrote:
krod031 wrote:

Consider me extremely skeptical that this is going to last.
Consider me extremely confident that CAK-LAX it will be successful and sustainable.

Why is that?

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by cledaybuck
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Breeze Airways News and Discussion - 2024
Replies: 392
Views: 49357

Re: Breeze Airways News and Discussion - 2024

FLYKTPA wrote:
MYR-BDL is gonna do extremely well during the summer. Very smart add.

It will be interesting to see fi it has any effect on Avelo's HVN-ILM.

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by cledaybuck
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024
Replies: 300
Views: 28792

Re: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024

a320flyer wrote:
F9 is resuming daily CVG-LGA service (ended before Covid). I also see MSP/PHX resuming as well, there might be more.

Still hoping for CVG-CLT/IAH/SFO/SJU on F9.

CVG-LGA seems odd. Do they think they can run AA off the route?

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by cledaybuck
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024
Replies: 300
Views: 28792

Re: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024

https://ishrionaviation.com/news/breeze ... greenville

Consider me extremely skeptical that this is going to last.
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krod031 wrote:

Consider me extremely skeptical that this is going to last.

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by cledaybuck
Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections
Replies: 3147
Views: 417665

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

"FAA Moves to Allow 737 MAX 9s to Return to Service A new Airworthiness Directive will allow airlines to fly 737 MAX 9s after completing additional maintenance" https://airlinegeeks.com/2024/01/19/faa-moves-to-allow-737-max-9s-to-return-to-service/ Excellent news! I bet everyone learned s...

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by cledaybuck
Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue/Spirit Merger Discussion thread - 2024 (merger plans terminated as of March 4)
Replies: 708
Views: 73354

Re: JetBlue/Spirit Merger Discussion thread - 2024

I am in no ways a B6 expert, I wish jfklganyc were still here to inform, but why utilize their precious resources (crews and aircraft) on Trans-Atantic flights. They can get more turns out of their crew and aircraft domestically or on shorter Latin/Caribbean routes. Keep the premium cabins, but do ...

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by cledaybuck
Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue/Spirit Merger Discussion thread - 2024 (merger plans terminated as of March 4)
Replies: 708
Views: 73354

Re: JetBlue/Spirit Merger Discussion thread - 2024

Uncertainty is their biggest challenge. Spirit management have won my admiration for being able to walk a very tight rope very gracefully. Long-term, however, for any airline the issue of government interference is quite concerning. It seems rather random if a merger will be challenged or not, and ...

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by cledaybuck
Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue/Spirit Merger Discussion thread - 2024 (merger plans terminated as of March 4)
Replies: 708
Views: 73354

Re: JetBlue/Spirit Merger Discussion thread - 2024

It's too late for SPIRIT to change their MO, after more than a decade of operating in the manner they have ... back in the 1980's Peoples Express attempted to offer first class service to increase their revenues ... it failed and they had been only operating a few years at that point. https://simpl...

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by cledaybuck
Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections
Replies: 3147
Views: 417665

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

There is this that just came out on Bloomberg... "Boeing Makes Progress With 737 Ungrounding After First Checks" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-17/boeing-makes-progress-with-737-ungrounding-after-first-checks?srnd=premium&sref=ve8380i3 Can you summarize as the article...

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by cledaybuck
Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing Deliveries - 2023
Replies: 91
Views: 21380

Re: Airbus and Boeing Deliveries - 2023

A number of airlines have indicated that they are booking up slots a decade in advance purely in order to secure slots (e.g. Easyjet). I have to say that this phenomenon seems to be particularly focussed around the A32X NEO family, and especially the A321 NEO. The NEO backlog is 7,200 aircraft. Tha...

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by cledaybuck
Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Southwest having another meltdown? 1/15/2024
Replies: 60
Views: 12008

Re: Is Southwest having another meltdown? 1/15/2024

Southwest has led the world in cancellations for multiple days now and it's continuing today and tomorrow. When does this end? It's becoming increasingly pathetic and frustrating. Everyone is having a bad day today. It will get better when the weather gets better. This is the current top of the can...

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by cledaybuck
Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing Deliveries - 2023
Replies: 91
Views: 21380

Re: Airbus and Boeing Deliveries - 2023

Combined figures for both manufacturers are: ⋅ 2023 Deliveries = 528+735 = 1263 (far from 2018 record at 1606) ⋅ 2023 Orders = 1314+2094 = 3408 (indeed a historical record) This doesn't feel sustainable. I'd be amazed if that order rate was sustained. I can easily see the delive...

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by cledaybuck
Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing Deliveries - 2023
Replies: 91
Views: 21380

Re: Airbus and Boeing Deliveries - 2023

2094 + 528, absolutely mind blowing, over 2600 combined orders for the two manufacturers in one calendar year. (I won't comment on the split; whole 'nuther topic). Amazing that Airlines still have such a huge appetite for new aircraft! Combined figures for both manufacturers are: ⋅ 2023 D...

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by cledaybuck
Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Kona Airport (PHKO) reopened after cracks found on runway
Replies: 43
Views: 9446

Re: Kona airport (PHKO) is closed until further notice

PHKO (Hilo) only has 7 or 8 jetways. Its a brutal drive from Kona to Hilo. The Saddle Road is nowhere near as unpleasant as it used to be. Not a great drive, but a far cry from the dirt road and single-file bridges that used to be. The Saddle Road might have been the most modern road I drove on whe...

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by cledaybuck
Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Kona Airport (PHKO) reopened after cracks found on runway
Replies: 43
Views: 9446

Re: Kona airport (PHKO) is closed until further notice

Biscayne738 wrote:
PHKO (Hilo) only has 7 or 8 jetways. Its a brutal drive from Kona to Hilo.

It’s not close, but I would hardly call it brutal.

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by cledaybuck
Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024
Replies: 645
Views: 81711

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2024

Is WN having another meltdown? Flightaware is showing 450+ cancels yesterday and today. Seems like they have already cancelled 600 tomorrow… Other airlines are not having similar levels of cancellations, so this can’t be weather driven… what is going on at WN? United has 275 cancellations and Skywe...

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by cledaybuck
Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections
Replies: 3147
Views: 417665

Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

The FAA, working in partnership with the airlines to enhance safety, has enhanced safety. To go back to the highly-political "kick their butt and punish them when something inevitably goes wrong" safety management program is insane. It doesn't work. It can't be all stick. Just culture wor...

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by cledaybuck
Thu Jan 11, 2024 2:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024
Replies: 300
Views: 28792

Re: The Rest of Ohio Aviation - 2024

YNG trivia time (I'll reveal the answers after giving folks a chance to guess). Data is based on YE 3Q 2023 catchment data for the market: 1. What is the top travel destination for YNG area travelers? 2. PIT and CLE are the top two airports utilized by YNG area travelers. What's number three? 3. Wh...

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by cledaybuck
Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation - 2024
Replies: 331
Views: 27523

Re: Phoenix Aviation - 2024

Fingers crossed for those long haul routes with high demand (Asia, Amsterdam, France, Germany) I don't want to get too far into the weeds on this, because people always get upset when I bring a dose of reality to this thread. For some context, this Phoenix Aviation Thread traces its roots back on t...

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by cledaybuck
Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cleveland Aviation - 2024
Replies: 798
Views: 55987

Re: Cleveland Aviation - 2024

A340 from GRX ( Spain ) little over an hour out , anyone know who or what this might be ? Apparently, this aircraft is going to take the Cavs to Paris for their game against the Brooklyn Nets on January 11. Wait, I don’t pay that close of attention. Why are the Cavs playing in Paris? Does this have...

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