I got to thinking...this tie-up between both AS and B6 with AA is a huge middle finger to DL and their encroachment into SEA and BOS. Revenge can sometimes be sweet...we'll see how the story plays out. Don't get too excited, since it hasn't happened yet. Yes...it will be interesting to see how it a...
Jump to postThe issue with Alaska's hard product isn't that its worse than anyone else's; its that it isn't markedly better than anyone else's. Assuming fares are about the same price, there's no compelling reason for the average cost-conscious flyer to book on Alaska when the hard product is no different, and...
Jump to postThis is what passes for "bullish" and "big" at AS? This was at best a timid response to B6's LAX growth and TCON expansion out of Newark. It actually sounds like they got a courtesy heads up from AA about the B6 codeshare and threw something together to get out there as a compet...
Jump to postIt's nice to see the Bullish AS that we saw in 2017 after the acquisition come out in force again, it seemed they became very timid and eager to cutback following that period in time. Big expansion announcements like these are very exciting, This is what passes for "bullish" and "big...
Jump to postn7371f wrote:Choosing AS over B6 on LAX-FLL is akin to asking a 65 yr old woman out on a date vs a 35 year old.
Until they address their inferior hard product they’re going to remain irrelevant. What's the matter with Alaska's hard product? They have more legroom in every cabin than American, Delta, and United and an in-flight entertainment system equivalent to narrow body product on AA, United, Southwest, D...
Jump to postI think some people are overstating Alaska’s “retrenchment”. They’ve also added some smaller Western cities this year that are still operating. One can argue those don’t count, but they’re still planes taking up gates. And while cutting transcons during the pandemic isn’t a great look, thus far the...
Jump to postI think some people are overstating Alaska’s “retrenchment”. They’ve also added some smaller Western cities this year that are still operating. One can argue those don’t count, but they’re still planes taking up gates. And while cutting transcons during the pandemic isn’t a great look, thus far the ...
Jump to postRe: Idaho Travel Idaho as a whole is rather underrated (and unknown). There are many unique and beautiful scenic sights in Idaho that aren’t well known such as Craters of the Moon and the Sawtooth range. The latter rivals the Tetons in my opinion in beauty. Northern Idaho has beautiful lakes and sce...
Jump to postCould B6 ultimately become the number 4 carrier at LAX, with AS retrenching? B6 can also expand into Central America and non-MEX Mexico. I see B6 ultimately also competing for WN's customers at LAX. I don’t really get this idea they can or want to take WN customers. If that were the case they would...
Jump to postIt appears Alaska is adding another jetbridge. The linked article states for “larger” planes. I’m not sure 737-type aircraft could fit in this area unless they remove a couple or more ground load gates. I’m really interested into the necessity of this. Based on future additions such as SFO, Alaska s...
Jump to postCointrin330 wrote:I do think AA and AS are potential merger candidates down the road if the industry does not rebound meaningfully in 2021. Same goes for others in the industry.
I definitely think B6 has an opportunity to capture the niche market that Virgin America offered but I think the timing right now to do it is bad because they need more places from LAX. I think adding more places from LAX such as ATL, Hawaii, TPA, BNA, PVR, and SJD could definitely help though. Cra...
Jump to postGood .. screw Long Beach. All they did was mess with B6 over the years ... the stupid fines over "missed curfew", etc .. Glad B6 is finally saying a big 'Bite Me" to LGB .. and going someplace where they won;t be penalized by an airport administration that fights against their tenant...
Jump to postAS LAX-RDM MAR 1.0>2[1.0] APR 1.0>2[1.0] MAY 1.0>2[1.0] AS RDM-SFO MAR 1.0>2[0.4] APR 1.0>2[1.0] MAY 1.0>2[0.9] **AS RDM-SJC MAR 0>1.0[0] APR 0>1.0[0] MAY 0>1.0[0] Three new flights is a lot of extra lift for an airport the size of RDM! Is there tech in RDM? I am sure some exists but I don’t think ...
Jump to postThis is why the US is in the dumps. “Well *I* did this and this and I’m better. Those people just stare at kiosks.” Well “those people” do set the tone for a passenger’s experience. And yes you can’t fly without pilots. Both have value. Regardless of who’s getting laid off sending people into unempl...
Jump to postWN is actually very strong in the PNW from a brand recognition standpoint. From a market perspective, they used to be incredibly strong, however retreated after suspending their intra-PNW routes. They used to do: GEG-PDX/SEA/SLC SLC-BOI/RNO/SEA/PDX PDX-BOI/RNO BOI-SEA/RNO RNO-SEA Recall that they o...
Jump to postWN still isn’t very strong in the Northwest so operating out of another airport in Seattle doesn’t make much sense. WN is actually very strong in the PNW from a brand recognition standpoint. From a market perspective, they used to be incredibly strong, however retreated after suspending their intra...
Jump to postBTW, I just checked AS's online schedules and Sept 1 shows 2 daily flights from PAE to SAN, LAX and SJC! (Those are the only markets I checked.) I realize these schedules could change but a lot of work has already been done on the Sept 1 release by AS and the PAE flights are there! bb BOI, PDX, and...
Jump to postI think PAE-PHX is the only route currently in play, but I'd be surprised if AS and UA didn't come back when things return to normal. PAE hit 1,000,000 pax in their first year, not a bad start. https://www.heraldnet.com/business/alaska-airlines-cuts-paine-field-departures-to-one-per-day/ Well PAE a...
Jump to postSounds like they’re getting ready for the WN merger.. No going 3ed party sets them up for a merger with AlaskaAir or Spirit. There both big on 3 party ground crews. Flyguy With the current state of the airline industry what airline currently has the cash to burn on a merger? I like how no matter th...
Jump to postBOI-GEG will (eventually and allegedly) go 4x daily with WN’s exit.
BOI-SFO is a new route with 2x daily.
Assuming these things stick in this environment.
Stockholders are pretty upset right now.
https://apple.news/AlqJI5qI1RsWSojfgEyzXBw
This management attitude has little direct impact on me, other than limit my ability to acquire milage and further erode any loyalty to Alaska, but I'd have to think it has a significant impact on stockholders. Have you checked Alaska’s stock right now? https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/06/04/ala...
Jump to postIf I'm reading the United July schedule release correctly, SMF doubles it's daily total from three to six with a morning flight to Chicago and afternoon flights to LAX and SFO. Existing two flights to Denver and morning to SFO remain unchanged. With yesterday's spectacular jobs report, they may be ...
Jump to postRE: BOI-SFO
80% of Idaho’s inbound growth is from California. Most has been from the LA/OC Area. With telecommuting here to stay, the Boise Area is expecting continued growth. I’m guessing an increased share of that will be from the Bay Area.
Laugh if you must but this move alone opens up far more of the US market to LGB than B6 could ever hope to offer. And if you haven't noticed, the world has changed since the last meaningful yield data was compiled. Now, if you were concerned about social distancing going forward, crowded indoor LAX...
Jump to postFinally looks like a positive direction at least. Thanks Enilria! **AS DEN-PDX SEP 0>1.0[0] OCT 0>1.0[0] NOV 0>1.4[0] DEC 0>2[0] JAN 0>2[0] FEB 0>2[0] Is this just being cynical but AS thinks SEA is going to be so bad they want to serve DEN from somewhere else? Otherwise, this is a long-standing ga...
Jump to postI had been wondering for the past few weeks what impact COVID-19 would have on the expansion plans at BOI. Well, now we know... https://boisedev.com/news/2020/04/16/boise-airport-garage-esi/ I figured some of the other projects might be delayed, but it does surprise me they stopped this one. While ...
Jump to postI had to fly a couple days ago and I could really see service like this sticking around. WN was making announcements encouraging you to go buy food prior to bring onto the plane. Hope I’m wrong, but I agree with others this may be something that sticks.
Jump to postraylee67 wrote:What? Don't even know that Utah can have earthquake. And 5.7 is not a small one either. What's going on?
OAG Thread for 03/01/20 notes for BOI Fall reductions by AS. PDX and SEA each see one flight cut. SAN sees a reduction back to 1x daily in fall - appears to come back weekend prior to Thanksgiving. Delta is going to 3x daily to LAX in the fall. A curious time to do so. Not a whole lot of room at LA...
Jump to postOAG Thread for 03/01/20 notes for BOI Fall reductions by AS. PDX and SEA each see one flight cut. SAN sees a reduction back to 1x daily in fall - appears to come back weekend prior to Thanksgiving. Delta is going to 3x daily to LAX in the fall. A curious time to do so. Not a whole lot of room at LAX...
Jump to postConsidering how friendly AA and AS are in other areas, I predict a merger between the two companies in the near future. Groundbreaking. “Other areas”? Like lounge access? That’s been available for years. There is no trend of airlines codesharing or partnering then merging soon after. Did AirTran an...
Jump to posthttps://i.ibb.co/Jtxfs5V/2020-02-19-154810.png Haven't been to ONT in ages but seems that if ONT airport would pay Amtrak for an ONT airport station linked to one of the terminals, Amtrak trains might stop there? Well BWI (Northeast corridor, not the best comparison none the less) does have its own...
Jump to postTo my understanding, Delta did not want to bottle-neck its own passengers at an antiquated IAF. That is their "reason" for no new international flights, but, of course, who knows the real reason: KE alliance? Not right aircraft? Second-thoughts on the Seattle hub, no real vision for Seatt...
Jump to postInteresting argument. Competition is anti-competitive. Ha. Seriously, you have overtaken this thread with your nonsensical rants. When the city has no viable plans to expand the footprint of the airport, there comes a time when an airline's quest to become larger by way of an alliance in an ever-sh...
Jump to postI was gonna say. Without AS being able to codeshare on the AA intl flights out of SEA, what would be the point? That makes zero sense to announce a huge tie-up and AS entry into oneworld if they wouldn't be able to codeshare with AA. True - After all, this alliance is going to prevent Seattle from ...
Jump to postI’m still seeing articles about this. This lady may have been a victim of an angry passenger, but she’s trying to get as much out of this as possible. I also never trust people that demand people be fired. They generally are cruel self centered people.
Jump to postOntario's future about 15 years ago was clearly defined. As LAX grew beyond its capacity, Ontario would be the reliever airport. Now of course, Ontario went from 7.2 million passengers in 2007, down to 4.1 million in 2014, and back up to 5.6 million in 2019. Meanwhile LAX has ballooned to 88 millio...
Jump to postThis guy says this is a precursor to a Alaska/AA merger: https://captainjetson.com/featured/alaska-airlines-joining-oneworld-as-its-newest-partner/ AS moving into T4 at LAX? Wow that kool aid must be strong. Last I checked AS utilized all but 2-3 gates of T6. AA spills into T5. What a laughable pro...
Jump to postWhile I agree that article is poor journalism, I don’t think we can rule out the possibility of a merger. This move awfully smells like a first step in that direction. Anything on here smells like a merger. “Alaska and United serve stroopwafel style cookies: merger ahead?” AA and AS had partnership...
Jump to postThis guy says this is a precursor to a Alaska/AA merger: https://captainjetson.com/featured/alaska-airlines-joining-oneworld-as-its-newest-partner/ That blogger is misinformed. While I agree that article is poor journalism, I don’t think we can rule out the possibility of a merger. This move awfull...
Jump to postWhile this shows a good strategic move by American given the current airline domestic landscape, it also show its desperation. If this partnership fails, American will be stuck not having had invested its own resources making it fall further behind. For this partnership to truly be accretive to Ame...
Jump to postI don’t see Boise having international flights anytime soon, even to Canada. Unless they wanted to steal some overseas connections via YVR (they’ve done this with Toronto). But I just don’t think there’s enough of that from Boise. Perhaps this decade there may be something to Mexico as the Hispanic ...
Jump to postWhether they do it or not they’ve received positive press for it. That’s what it is really about. Delta is very good at this.
Jump to postQuestions about the new PAE-BOI service on AS. Has this been officially announced by AS anywhere? I sure can't find it. That being said, I see the PAE-BOI r/t on AS's skeds beginning June 18; the EMJ will RON in Idaho. But I still see 3x daily PDX-PAE service after 6/18. I looks like this route did...
Jump to postAs for BOI-PAE, I really an amazed at this. Guess GEG-PAE must be working well, as this would be a similar type route IMO. I’m surprised too. On the surface people may think geographically it makes sense. Obviously they see potential. GEG makes a bit more sense because of intra-State business and I...
Jump to postQuestion for someone who might have knowledge of AS's website. Specifically I'm trying to figure out the new route map found here: https://www.alaskaair.com/route-map/?lid=nav%3aexplore-routeMap I don't like this new version of their route map at all and hope the original one returns (along with th...
Jump to postIt seems jetway utilization is relatively high now for a smaller airport. Seems like evening arrivals can be the biggest issue. I’ve waited a few times when flying Delta. And I’m curious if the airlines will shuffle around when A is done. I’ve never quite got why United opted for B21. I think it is...
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