I think it has to do with the timing of the week, as there could be less people going east those days, but rather coming back from the east coast those days. I still think an early morning departure would open up a lot for them at FAT. WN summer is being loaded. DAL is being moved around. They canc...
Jump to postWN has added a second DEN on Saturdays for Thanksgiving and Christmas per their website. One can speculate as to whether that will stick if they are planning to trim their schedule for Q3 and Q4 per published reports. Still missing an early am departure. I don't get the Denver timing this summer. G...
Jump to postWN has added a second DEN on Saturdays for Thanksgiving and Christmas per their website. One can speculate as to whether that will stick if they are planning to trim their schedule for Q3 and Q4 per published reports. Still missing an early am departure.
Jump to postJanuary 2024 numbers were posted. The high growth rate continues. Enplaned Domestic: 74,326 (up 12.72%) International: 18,304 (up 25.61%) Total Enplaned: 92,630 (up 15.06%) Deplaned Domestic: 75,915 (up 14.53%) International: 21,595 (up 35.23%) :shock: Total Deplaned: 97,510 (up 18.55%) http://flyf...
Jump to postNoted in the AS fall (Nov - on) load that SAN goes 4X; Sea back to 3x with one mainline.
AA Nov has 5X PHX with three mainline. Interesting move given the light schedule for June.
Any other weekend updates?
If AA doesn’t increase PHX to where it was last year, could we potentially see WN jump in on the route? If they’ve been waiting for something like this to jump in, this is the time for them to jump in. Per AA web booking, AA has added an 8:45 pm 321 to Phx on 5/23 only. Same add at SMF. Why a one-t...
Jump to postIf AA doesn’t increase PHX to where it was last year, could we potentially see WN jump in on the route? If they’ve been waiting for something like this to jump in, this is the time for them to jump in. Per AA web booking, AA has added an 8:45 pm 321 to Phx on 5/23 only. Same add at SMF. Why a one-t...
Jump to postFAT's capacity this summer will be close to even and maybe a bit under last summer's. Here's some differences I am seeing, looking in July: 1) Most notably, American to PHX is down to only one mainline and two CR7s, a big drop from last summer (and even down from May of this year). 2) Delta is up w...
Jump to postUA is loading summer tonight. ORD is moving to 7a, more or less in keeping with the placeholder. DEN has only 1X mainline and 2X 175’s. SFO 3X 175/700. LAX 2X 175, with a schedule that pushes #2 to almost 5pm. DEN is a head scratcher. It’s not that they don’t pack the 1pm flight. Better opportunitie...
Jump to postLooking back at ‘23, DL let us down, pushing ATL to ‘24. AS pulled mainline from SAN (never made sense), and WN failed to deliver on a 2nd to DEN. But, numbers are strong and the crowds at peak hrs are impressive and will remind us that the Master Plan was outdated before the ink dried. While my hom...
Jump to postIn a study released today by UpgradedPoints.com, FAT ranked as the 5th best US airport for holiday season international travelers. https://thebusinessjournal.com/fat-ranked-fifth-best-airport-for-international-holiday-travel/ https://upgradedpoints.com/news/worst-airports-for-international-travel-t...
Jump to postDAL instead of PHX or a DEN increase? Hhhmm. Maybe a small move further east for summer to respond to DL's ATL? Given some of the larger/older WN stations that still have no DAL route the choice has me wondering why that route for FAT. Yeah, I think this is showing that a lot of WN connecting pax a...
Jump to postWN adds Sat service to DAL with their latest schedule extension. Didn’t see that coming. DEN stays 1X. Must be a RASM issue there as LF is always solid.
Jump to postFAT-SNA OO among others
FAT-BUR OO
FAT-ONT XE
FAT-LGB G4
FAT-OAK Morris Air
FAT-SJC OO
FAT-SMF OO
FAT-BFL Golden Gate
FAT-MRY Golden Gate
FAT-VIS Inland Empire
FAT-SCK UA
FAT-HNL G4
FAT-RNO G4
FAT-SBP Swift Aire
FAT-SBA Apollo
FAT-BIS Sierra Pacific
On AS next summer, FAT is showing 3X SAN (175s), 2X PDX (175s), 3X SEA (1-175, 2-739s). The 7am departure from SEA is a bit odd, the only connections will be ANC/FAI/JNU/PDX/PSC/GEG/ALW, so it's really going after O&D. I'm a bit surprised they didn't try to connect it to Hawaii as well. In fact...
Jump to postATL flights are now bookable on DL's website! Delta looks to be using 559 for the flight number on both the ATL-FAT and FAT-ATL sectors, which is fun to see. Blocked at 4hr 57min for ATL-FAT and 4hr 36min for FAT-ATL in the summer months. Initial fare prices are quite high, however. There was a rou...
Jump to postI assume this is a seasonal add. I’d hope AA does counter with CLT, but DL is such an afterthought in this market. With Mexico being upgraded to where new flight can be added, who will make the first moves? Y4 is boosting BJX in. 24, but that’s not “new”. Time for G4 and Viva to kick things up a not...
Jump to postAS posted December 15 onwards. 2X SAN and PDX; 3X SEA w/one mainline.
Jump to postNoticing that AM is pulling down a number of GDL - California markets in October, including SFO and LAX, according to their website booking engine. FAT didn’t show on a number of days as well. Might be a glitch? I fly Y4 several times a year and both of their GDL’s are always packed on my trips. Hav...
Jump to post[url][/url] The WN extension keeps the status quo: 4X LAS and 1X DEN. DEN moves later, which will be bad for east coast connections, still hoping for a morning round trip or a terminator. They've another 1 stop to DEN on-top of the NS. Coming back, there are two 1-stops. The couple FAT-LAS-DEN I've ...
Jump to postG4 blinked on their latest extension, with LAS down to four days a week in January and Feb. Granted, the slowest time of the year, but it’s a pull back.. They’ve also trimmed from 3 to 2X a day on a number of peak days this fall. That they can fill 70% of their seats given the presence of WN says so...
Jump to postOdd, UA schedule load has a 320 to SFO on Fridays this summer. An error? Chasing the weekend getaways?
Jump to postUA is pulling ORD in September. It’s apparently nothing more than a seasonal flight and. Or worth a 175 off-peak. Placeholder is on for later in the year.
Jump to postI'd like to see what those folks' ultimate destinations were. Naturally, the hubs will show big numbers. Pretty much meaningless, though. For Q3 2022: FAT-DFW passenger segment profile: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xmmy_Djm8j6_9E14IgfsuDMk645YjAj8HCHNhm2rkmk/edit?usp=sharing FAT-PHX pass...
Jump to postThe WN extension added another three flights a week to LAS. They’ve also added 3X and 4X to LAS on Saturday and Sunday respectively various weeks before the October extension takes place. Connections!
Jump to postUA loaded another update. No 6a to SFO? Nothing late from SFO? Interesting move given the OO base.
Jump to postWas that an Ilyushin Il-76 on the Cargo ramp this morning? Silk Way? Nothing on FlightAware, but looking over from the garage it was not an everyday cargo op. Looked like a 146, but too big. Any ideas what and why?
Jump to postSNA is picking up a redeye AA A321NEO to CLT this summer it looks like. Is there a chance we could pick up that route this year too? People in the AA thread don't think this will happen but I'd say that CLT is almost as likely as IAH/HOU, MSP, SJD, and HNL. It would move up if it was on the "h...
Jump to postI did FAT-LAS-LGB on WN yesterday - LGB is such a great airport. Not even five minutes from plane to my rental. One can hope for something to LA that isn’t about LAX.
Jump to postBig schedule add from AA tonight for this summer: A fifth DFW (doesn't operate every day but most). There's now 6:11, 8:08, 10:37, 14:36, and 23:59 departures to DFW, all on A321s. Also, 3/4 PHX flights are mainline (gotta keep the OO terminator for MX): 6:17 CR7, 9:39 319, 12:32 320, 16:19 320. So...
Jump to postFAT will have more seats this summer than SJC on AA...fascinating considering that SJC was once an AA (mini) hub. I wonder if FAT should add CLT to the list of "high priority" airports that get extra incentives... I’m really surprised that DL hasn't started ATL-FAT yet. They do GEG and BO...
Jump to post[twoid][/twoid] Big schedule add from AA tonight for this summer: A fifth DFW (doesn't operate every day but most). There's now 6:11, 8:08, 10:37, 14:36, and 23:59 departures to DFW, all on A321s. Also, 3/4 PHX flights are mainline (gotta keep the OO terminator for MX): 6:17 CR7, 9:39 319, 12:32 320...
Jump to postSBA picked up a second WN to DEN. It’s their best route there, about the only decent LF @ SBA. UA seems to be pulling back at SBA if you check out the summer schedule, just 2 RTs on UA mainline to DEN. SBA also has 4 flights to SFO, one of which is mainline, and 2 to LAX. Their seat count this summ...
Jump to post[twoid][/twoid] Any guesses on the WN extension this week? I vote nothing new and 3X LAS from 4X. Looks like it's still 4X during the week... I wonder how much more frequency they will keep adding on FAT-LAS before they decide to add a 2nd DEN or another destination. LAS is close and popular for O&a...
Jump to postflyfresno wrote:whatusaid wrote:Any guesses on the WN extension this week? I vote nothing new and 3X LAS from 4X.
Looks like it's still 4X during the week...
United’s schedule load tonight has some interesting developments. Using June 15 as a target date, only one CRJ 200 on the schedule, a late morning SFO. The other SFO are 175’s. But, nothing to SFO after 11a. ORD is back at 11:59p. DEN is a 320, 319, and 175. LAX is a -700. Could it be that CRJ200’s...
Jump to postUnited’s schedule load tonight has some interesting developments. Using June 15 as a target date, only one CRJ 200 on the schedule, a late morning SFO. The other SFO are 175’s. But, nothing to SFO after 11a. ORD is back at 11:59p. DEN is a 320, 319, and 175. LAX is a -700. Could it be that CRJ200’s...
Jump to postUnited’s schedule load tonight has some interesting developments. Using June 15 as a target date, only one CRJ 200 on the schedule, a late morning SFO. The other SFO are 175’s. But, nothing to SFO after 11a. ORD is back at 11:59p. DEN is a 320, 319, and 175. LAX is a -700. Could it be that CRJ200’s ...
Jump to postI find it interesting that SMF is about to spend more on a pedestrian walkway than FAT is spending on the entire FAT Forward plan. I'm not advocating frivolously wasting money...but does anybody wonder whether airport management is skimping a bit with this project, particularly in only adding two n...
Jump to postI wonder if someone else might add FAT-LAX flights to serve international connections. I was speculating about that in the AS thread. It's difficult to predict with the shortage of pilots that OO is reportedly experiencing (presumably any LAX service would be on them). I think the most likely (in o...
Jump to postAlso from the looks, they had previously cut LAX-FAT resuming in June, and now that is removed. Can you explain what this statement means? They’re permanently exiting the route. Previously, they had only loaded a temporary suspension till June. FAT-LAX restarts on 6/15, unless that's cut back again...
Jump to postflyfresno wrote:whatusaid wrote:UA pulled ORD for June. Bad sign of what’s to come.
Where do you see that? I still show it bookable.
Looks like the silly AS mainline service between FAT and SAN may be going away in April (after still operating only in March?) I see that, as of Saturday night's OAG schedule load, beginning April 18, we will have triple-daily EMJ service in the market (with departures from FAT at 8a, noon & 5p...
Jump to postOctober BTS dashboard is up. I'm sure someone will chime in with T-100 data, but here's the "35,000 foot" view: Comparing to Sep 21-Sep 22, Oct 21-Oct 22 showed a small drop in passengers (about 6,000 total for the 12 month period). Southwest gained market share (~0.5%), OO and AA lost a ...
Jump to postSome of my favorite cities in Mexico... Culiacan and Guaymas... just a bit crazy with Cartels battling for control (la plaza). The Sinaloa Cartel wants to maintain the status quo... with Guzman's son free... because they know a power vacuum/struggle will result in them being, uh, replaced... violen...
Jump to postFlyLEN2019 wrote:flyfresno wrote:whatusaid wrote:Happy New Year all. May today’s Breeze diversion to FAT be a sign of things to come.
I'll take any A220 operator!!!
I think DL A220 flights are realistic for us
Happy New Year all. May today’s Breeze diversion to FAT be a sign of things to come.
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