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by zeke
Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:22 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What aircraft is more profitable to operate and why?
Replies: 14
Views: 1331

Re: What aircraft is more profitable to operate and why?

BoeingGuy wrote:
So if an existing 777 customer sells AIMS-1 777s to another airline, Honeywell will no longer provide support?


Correct, which I think was the issue with the Saudi and Malaysian aircraft.

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by zeke
Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:44 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: AA Captain and Public Relations issue.
Replies: 20
Views: 1031

Re: AA CAAptAAin and Public RelAAtions issue.

Doesn’t sound like the pilot got involved with a seat dispute as she claimed (even if that is what she was arguing about), more about her behaviour before the flight and if this continue further. Sometimes people are not on their best behaviour when they get on an aircraft, sometimes had a few drink...

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by zeke
Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Airbus A380 parked amid search for new operator
Replies: 127
Views: 29035

Re: First Airbus A380 parked amid search for new operator

Well, the return to the lessor doesn't happen until October. Would it really require three months to prepare the aircraft for lease return? That's a lot of lease money to pay for an unproductive asset. The lease terms would probably require a heavy C check to be completed before it’s return, so the...

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by zeke
Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Berlin - Spectacular farewell: AB7001 MIA-DUS steep turn over terminal
Replies: 99
Views: 18909

Re: Air Berlin - Spectacular farewell: AB7001 MIA-DUS steep turn over terminal

dodoma wrote:
German air traffic authorities (Luftfahrtbundesamt) are already looking into this

http://www.aero.de/news-27712/LBA-untersucht--Air-Berlin-Flugmanoever-in-Duesseldorf.html (in German)



AKA the fun police

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by zeke
Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Bombardier Announce CSeries Partnership
Replies: 1079
Views: 65263

Re: Breaking: Airbus and Bombardier Announce C Series Partnership

I am happy about the prospects of increasing the amount of work in Mobil with possible C series assembly. Should provide good export prospects for the C series with EXIM financing.

Bit like the Japanese built assembled in America 787.

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by zeke
Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: C Series deal a pathway to ATR & Q400 replacement?
Replies: 17
Views: 2935

Re: C Series deal a pathway to ATR & Q400 replacement?

It might be the demise of the Q400 leaving ATR having exclusivity

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by zeke
Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MH370: Malaysia set to announce resumption of search as early as this week
Replies: 30
Views: 5144

Re: MH370: Malaysia set to announce resumption of search as early as this week

Our oceanographic salvage experts wouldn’t have an idea of how to find something that small made out of aluminum unless you told them the exact position, even then it is hit and miss. This requires smart people, with specific techniques for the task. They want to be looking for the high density comp...

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by zeke
Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MH370: Malaysia set to announce resumption of search as early as this week
Replies: 30
Views: 5144

Re: MH370: Malaysia set to announce resumption of search as early as this week

I think before another day is spent on the water the raw data from the satellites including the ground station in Perth is put on Kaggle or similar as a public dataset and open it up as a competition to locate the best possible search area. Get some intelligent people to have a fresh look at the pro...

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by zeke
Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Asia Depressurization Incident
Replies: 17
Views: 3535

Re: Air Asia Depressurization Incident

NZ321 wrote:
Are their differences in training of crew for the different divisions of Air Asia?


I am of the understanding each franchise is simply a brand sharing strategy with commercial agreements between them.

Each airlines I understand is independent with safety oversight by the home county regulator.

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by zeke
Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:44 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: CASA and ICAO RESTRICTIONS
Replies: 3
Views: 409

Re: CASA and ICAO RESTRICTIONS

Sent you a private message

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by zeke
Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 777-300ER glut impact on widebody market
Replies: 28
Views: 7564

Re: 777-300ER glut impact on widebody market

I thought every 777-300ER had AIMS 2, so that isn't really a factor Per the OP, they were not talking about the 77W exclusively. “We've already had numerous discussions on the low resale value of 777-200(ER or not). They're not selling. I believe one reason is the poor state of the freight market, ...

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by zeke
Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:03 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Vietnam - flaps set to takeoff position upon engine shut down?
Replies: 2
Views: 654

Re: Vietnam - flaps set to takeoff position upon engine shut down?

Airbus SOP to have flaps at 1 above 30 deg C

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by zeke
Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 777-300ER glut impact on widebody market
Replies: 28
Views: 7564

Re: 777-300ER glut impact on widebody market

The early 777s are next to useless unless they have already had the AIMS upgrade, otherwise Honeywell will not support them.

I think the low 77W rates will result in deferrals of A350-1000 and 77X aircraft, and accelerate 744 retirement.

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by zeke
Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330neo MTOW increase
Replies: 178
Views: 28416

Re: A330neo MTOW increase

The 251 t A330-800 tanker would be volume limited without an ATC. I am not aware of an ACT STC for the A330, however they are available for the A340 and A300/A310 which would not seem intellectually as being a difficult extension of prior art. Without ACT the offload would be better due to the bett...

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by zeke
Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330neo MTOW increase
Replies: 178
Views: 28416

Re: A330neo MTOW increase

As I posted earlier on this thread, the T700 already is enough thrust for 251 tonnes.

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by zeke
Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TK 33 circling Thyrrhenian Sea?
Replies: 22
Views: 3553

Re: TK 33 circling Thyrrhenian Sea?

It's 8 years since I last flew the 330... Not a bad recollection of limitations!! In practice by the time takeoff engine failure run the procedures and come back OEI you would more than likely be at that level. Now with the 235 and 242 tonne MTOW, it’s further away from 229, just a further consider...

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by zeke
Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TK 33 circling Thyrrhenian Sea?
Replies: 22
Views: 3553

Re: TK 33 circling Thyrrhenian Sea?

mafaky wrote:
332s have this option, not the 333s!


333s have the option as well since the centre tank is an 333 option.

I can put emoticons in my post also

:banghead:
:banghead:
:banghead:

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by zeke
Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TK 33 circling Thyrrhenian Sea?
Replies: 22
Views: 3553

Re: TK 33 circling Thyrrhenian Sea?

ThrottleHold wrote:
The A330 will quite happily perform a CATIIIB autoland, at MTOW, on a single engine.


Close, provided that the runway is approved for automatic landing, the flight crew can decide to perform an autoland up to 229 t.

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by zeke
Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine
Replies: 584
Views: 118320

Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Some good closeups of GP7200s here https://www.aeroreport.de/en/articles/riese-auf-dem-pruefstand https://www.aeroreport.de/content/2-artikel/102-riese-auf-dem-pruefstand/4-ablauf/GP7000_Test-Pylon.jpg https://www.aeroreport.de/en/articles/gutes-kann-noch-besser-werden https://www.aeroreport.de/cont...

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by zeke
Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fiji Go-Around at LAX today
Replies: 12
Views: 4186

Re: Fiji Go-Around at LAX today

SQ definitely cleans up its act when landing in SIN. When on business in SG, I stay in Changi Village and take the beach walk out to Changi Freight Terminal Rd. for some spotting time. SQ finals, at least the heavies, are the smoothest, and have the fewest corrections, compared to D7 and other LCCs...

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by zeke
Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fiji Go-Around at LAX today
Replies: 12
Views: 4186

Re: Fiji Go-Around at LAX today

Are SQ known as runway hogs generally? Did SQ simply have a late touchdown? Would pilot landing know who was in queue on approach... like a Flightradar24 app on his unmentionable in the cockpit? SQ are pretty painful to be behind most of the time, very slow on descent, poor profiles, not sticking t...

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by zeke
Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call
Replies: 199
Views: 34149

Re: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call

I guess the point I am working towards, is that Final reserve fuel represents 30 minutes fuel at a low throttle setting , which is not the same as the throttle setting that you would normally use to transit to an alternate airfield. Although if it absolutely came to it, you could limp along, at 150...

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by zeke
Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:02 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What aircraft is more profitable to operate and why?
Replies: 14
Views: 1331

Re: What aircraft is more profitable to operate and why?

An old 777 without the AIMS update is worthless as Honeywell will not provide support unless you were the existing customer.

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by zeke
Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine
Replies: 584
Views: 118320

Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

Interesting information. I would have had serious doubts you could take off on three engines due to the thrust asymmetry, even if you are light-weight. I'm wondering if the outer engine on the good wing has to be thrust limited so far as the rudder can correct - ie, a 2.5 engine takeoff? Or would y...

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by zeke
Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call
Replies: 199
Views: 34149

Re: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call

But in the case of ACA46, the captain HAS the right to divert to Pune. But the reason I think he didnt divert is explained below. Upon asking a real world 787 Senior Commander, he said even a 747 can land at PNQ but its not dependent on that. It is dependent on Tarmac Strength, fire fighting capabi...

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by zeke
Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call
Replies: 199
Views: 34149

Re: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call

Endurance is listed on the flight plan, the method of calculation at the planning stage is not that straight forward as there are multiple enroute scenarios during a long flight that need to be addressed including all engines operative, one engine inoperative, and depressurization, and combinations ...

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by zeke
Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:19 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What aircraft is more profitable to operate and why?
Replies: 14
Views: 1331

Re: What aircraft is more profitable to operate and why?

If Airbus is out of the equation for whatever reason then you are not going to get the lowest cost.

The C series is out due to tariffs.

BTW for 90 million you can buy a 787 or A330neo.

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by zeke
Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine
Replies: 584
Views: 118320

Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

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by zeke
Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call
Replies: 199
Views: 34149

Re: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call

Read the DGCA CARs carefully I have posted the links and relevant parts earlier in the thread. Mayday fuel per the DGCA CAR land at the nearest aerodrome, not land at the nearest public aerodrome, not land at the nearest private aerodrome, and definitely does not say that landing at a military aerod...

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by zeke
Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:15 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Questions on 'Fuel Endurance', ' Reserved Fuel', 'Mayday Fuel', 'Minimum Fuel' and 'Minimum Holding Fuel'
Replies: 21
Views: 1983

Re: Questions on 'Fuel Endurance', ' Reserved Fuel', 'Mayday Fuel', 'Minimum Fuel' and 'Minimum Holding Fuel'

No, ETOPS under ICAO (Flight Planning and Fuel Management Manual) it is 15 minutes at holding speed (engine out and depressurisation), not 15 minutes hold. 15 minutes hold is about 3% higher than 15 minutes at holding speed due to the racetrack. “allow the aeroplane to descend as necessary and proce...

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by zeke
Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call
Replies: 199
Views: 34149

Re: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call

In my career I have never heard ATC tell an airplane to enter a hold after it declared an emergency or MAYDAY for any reason unless that is what the crew requested. I challenge anyone to find an ATC recording to prove me wrong. I remember a case a couple of years ago when one of the low cost carrie...

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by zeke
Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call
Replies: 199
Views: 34149

Re: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call

It's a little off topic, but not really. I wonder why airports like HYD and AMD don't pave more space for remote stands. It's not like they ran out of space. There is plenty of unpaved dirt surrounding the air side of the international terminals at both airports. I don't see why they can't be like ...

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by zeke
Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call
Replies: 199
Views: 34149

Re: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call

As it was reported, they tried to go to their planned alternate first after holding for BOM to reopen, but their planned alternate was unable to accept them. Only then did they decide to go to HYD, and only when HYD refused to accept them did they declare their fuel emergency and insisted on landin...

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by zeke
Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:38 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Questions on 'Fuel Endurance', ' Reserved Fuel', 'Mayday Fuel', 'Minimum Fuel' and 'Minimum Holding Fuel'
Replies: 21
Views: 1983

Re: Questions on 'Fuel Endurance', ' Reserved Fuel', 'Mayday Fuel', 'Minimum Fuel' and 'Minimum Holding Fuel'

It's comforting to see so many different opions on this:) Just 3 FAA domestic FAA Flag ICAO Some carriers designate a fuel amount in LBS for declaring an state of "Emergency Fuel" for the specific aircraft in their fleets and that takes some of the guess work out of it, There is an ICAO r...

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by zeke
Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call
Replies: 199
Views: 34149

Re: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call

Where on earth are you getting the idea that we are saying they did a hold on the way to HYD? All others are sayin is that they were TOLD to and REFUSED to do it, very different than actually doing it so of course you don’t see a hold on your flightaware replay because it never happened. I think yo...

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by zeke
Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call
Replies: 199
Views: 34149

Re: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call

Finn350 wrote:
I am paraphrasing the quotes of the bulletin earlier quoted in this thread.


And all that is listing a report (pilot, operator, ATC) received, not the result of an investigation, ie investgation report.

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by zeke
Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call
Replies: 199
Views: 34149

Re: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call

They then declared mayday fuel, with HYD as the closest, most appropriate field. Looks like someone is deleting my posts. HYD was not the closest by some margin. http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=BOM-AMD,+bom-goi,bom-PNQ,+bom-hyd&MS=wls&MR=60&MX=540x540&PM=* Go back earlier in this thread ...

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by zeke
Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call
Replies: 199
Views: 34149

Re: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call

As explained by the Canada TSB bulletin, the crew declared MAYDAY when approaching HYD and they were told the airport was full and not able to accommodate the flight. In that scenario MAYDAY FUEL is fully legit. Got a link to that ? The reason I am asking is they also declared mayday while holding ...

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by zeke
Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call
Replies: 199
Views: 34149

Re: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call

The flight crew declared Mayday due to being low on fuel, however, ATC instructed them to enter a hold and tried to divert them several times before giving them a direct route to Hyderabad following the fourth (!) Mayday declaration. Mayday fuel to a controller means this pilot is out of options ge...

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by zeke
Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call
Replies: 199
Views: 34149

Re: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call

Declaring emergency for fuel (MAYDAY FUEL) and landing above final reserve fuel are not mutually exclusive. The very reason to declare fuel emergency is to get priority landing to avoid consuming final reserve fuel. It appears that the aircraft did eventually get priority and was not put on hold an...

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by zeke
Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:34 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Layperson's term for the "apron"
Replies: 17
Views: 1155

Re: Layperson's term for the "apron"

From ICAO Annex 14 Volume I Aerodrome Design and Operations Aircraft stand. A designated area on an apron intended to be used for parking an aircraft. Apron. A defined area, on a land aerodrome, intended to accommodate aircraft for purposes of loading or unloading passengers, mail or cargo, fuelling...

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by zeke
Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:11 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Questions on 'Fuel Endurance', ' Reserved Fuel', 'Mayday Fuel', 'Minimum Fuel' and 'Minimum Holding Fuel'
Replies: 21
Views: 1983

Re: Questions on 'Fuel Endurance', ' Reserved Fuel', 'Mayday Fuel', 'Minimum Fuel' and 'Minimum Holding Fuel'

ICAO defines the final reserve fuel as “the amount of fuel calculated using the estimated mass on arrival at the destination alternate aerodrome or the destination aerodrome, when no destination alternate aerodrome is required: 1) for a reciprocating engine aeroplane, the amount of fuel required to ...

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by zeke
Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call
Replies: 199
Views: 34149

Re: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call

Pilots lying about fuel emergencies just to get priority in traffic is an old-school trick. I know a pilot in the middle east who talked to me about its misuse there too. You maybe right, but im just talking because of the things I saw and because of the things I was told. I don’t have time for tha...

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by zeke
Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:43 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: landing without flaps (only slats) on A330
Replies: 12
Views: 1906

Re: landing without flaps (only slats) on A330

It is only 1.5 degrees less on the -300, 14 degrees still provides a good margin.

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by zeke
Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call
Replies: 199
Views: 34149

Re: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call

1) All airliners flying anywhere around the world have 3 alternates. Mostly heavy aircraft. I just asked around for A320 and 737, they max plan 2 altenates in India. What you are reading in DGCA site is the minimum requirements. I actually fly heavies worldwide including into BOM, I have never had ...

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by zeke
Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:14 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: landing without flaps (only slats) on A330
Replies: 12
Views: 1906

Re: landing without flaps (only slats) on A330

Still a very good margin, the attitude will be between 6 and 8.5 degrees, and the tail strike pitch limit on the -200 is 15.5 degrees.

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by zeke
Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call
Replies: 199
Views: 34149

Re: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call

I am writing this the third time NO unscheduled aircraft can land at Pune Air Force Base. NO UNSCHEDULED AIRCRAFT like clear NO Unscheduled relates to nominating that airport at the planning stage. There are many unscheduled flights into and out of PNQ, both in aircraft and helicopters. It is not t...

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by zeke
Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:38 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Black Triangles In A318/319/329/321 Cabin
Replies: 23
Views: 16671

Re: Black Triangles In A318/319/329/321 Cabin

longhauler wrote:
Where I fly, we use only three zones for W&B on the A320.
(As well as the A319 and A321).


Same here, zones A,B, C

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by zeke
Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:36 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: landing without flaps (only slats) on A330
Replies: 12
Views: 1906

Re: landing without flaps (only slats) on A330

Just had a beautiful smooth landing on a MEA A330 only with slats, no flaps set. What is the background of this procedure? Jan There is no normal procedure for a flapless landing on a A330. The abnormal landing configuration is required for some dual hydraulic failures and/or if the flaps are locke...

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by zeke
Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call
Replies: 199
Views: 34149

Re: Air Canada 787-9 vs. ATC: Clearance to land only after fourth (!) mayday call

That's straight-up wrong. The number of runways is irrelevant. Their lengths, widths, and orientations matter; so do the facilities at the airport, and its IATA and ICAO certifications. A runway only used by Cessnas is probably not capable of handling a widebody, and the field around it certainly i...

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