The schedule change shows double daily 739 between BZN and SEA in addition to two Q’s
Jump to postalasizon wrote:TTailedTiger wrote:Kind of shocking that PHX-BZN wasn't already served. Especially with both SLC and DEN serving it.
For a while AA ignored Montana. HP used to serve PHX-BZN back in the day but it was cut circa 2007 as I recall.
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Jump to postIt appears the mainline A320 service to BZN is still scheduled to start on February 11th to/from SEA. While seasonal, it will be the first mainline AS service to Montana. It also appears the BZN - LAX service is responding well with AS adding a second daily flight this summer.
Jump to postI am Jackson Hole based and it is really impressive to see how much AA has grown here. From one seasonal DFW flight a day a few years ago to multiple daily DFW year round plus LAX, ORD, LGA, BOS and CLT. I would not be surprised to see PHX-JAC return too. Looking further, it appears AA dropped the ...
Jump to postIn this morning’s schedule change, AA added the following winter service from CLT:
BZN - Daily from December 17 - April 5, 737-800
JAC - Saturday only December 19 - April 3, A319
MTJ - Saturday only December 19 - January 2, A319
Alaska/Horizon previously served Jackson Hole (JAC) from SEA with a stop in Bozeman (BZN). I believe If I remember correctly this was with the Dornier 328 in the mid to late 90s. The flight cross connected in Bozeman with the Northwest departure to MSP when they code shared. It was fairly short lived.
Jump to postFCA is incorrect. Airport code should read GPI. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacier_Park_International_Airport Q FCA is the IATA code so for the purposes of airline reservation systems and buying tickets FCA is correct. For National Weather Service, FAA etc, GPI is correct. When they chan...
Jump to postAlaska will begin utilizing A319/320 aircraft into BIL, BZN and MSO beginning May 21. BZN and MSO will be two of the four daily flights in each market and BIL will be one of the two daily flights. Montana continues to see strong growth.
Jump to postATL - BOI - 52 pdew
ATL - BZN - 50 pdew
ATL - GEG - 48 pdew
All very true but the ATL-BOI/BZN/GEG are selling indefinitely through the current selling schedule in November. There are very few tourists in November and these three markets are three of their largest markets they don’t serve from ATL in any season. This is an investment in their already inherent...
Jump to postThe DL adds to places like BOI and GEG are all about adding capacity during peak summer to tourism and leisure related markets. Summer tourism is hotter than ever in the Rockies for the recreational opportunities. Particularly for those wanting to escape the heat and humidity of the southeast and F...
Jump to postWell we know LGB-BZN is not coming back next year. Not Confirmed yet but heard they might axe LGB-SMF/OAK possible SJC. They would move flights to add more LGB-SFO. Guess we will see next week Actually BZN - LGB comes back with the February schedule change. The JetBlue vacation portion of the websi...
Jump to postBZN is busier in the summer but they have been growing throughout the year. They post their stats each month and here is their most recent report: https://bozemanairport.com/content/documents/2019-Passenger-and-Tower-Report.doc It shows a 20 percent increase in January 2019. It also shows the stats ...
Jump to postBig Sky operated until March 8, 2008 and then there was a gap until Great Lakes started taking over in September to Sidney, Lewistown and Miles City (Miles City and Lewistown eventually lost all service). Glasgow, Glendive, Havre and Wolf Point didn't get service back until February 2009.
Jump to postGlasgow (GGW)
8,071 16%
Glendive (GDV)
5,412 24%
Havre (HVR)
6,311 18.3%
Sidney (SDY)
18,892 16%
Wolf Point (OLF)
7,598 1%
West Yellowstone (WYS)
16,372 -6%
The Montana Aeronautics Division has published the total passengers numbers for the airports in Montana for 2018. https://www.mdt.mt.gov/aviation/studies-research.shtml Below are the total passengers (in/out) for each of the 7 largest airports along with growth rate compared to 2017 and 10-year from...
Jump to postSome revisions: AA Domestic destinations served by PHX and not LAX: GEG , BOI, OAK , MRY , BFL , SBP , SBA , PSP , YUM , FLG , SGU, GJT, SAF, ROW, AMA, LBB, MAF, FSD, MSP, DSM, MCI, MSN, MKE, GRR, DTW, MEM, TPA , BWI, PIT, EWR (and BUR, LGB, SNA, and ONT, obviously) AA Domestic destinations served ...
Jump to postI don't think WN has the right equipment to serve BZN. Too many seats on the 737 to make BZN work profitably. An airplane like the A220 would be perfect on a route like DEN-BZN at about 100-110 seats but I don't see WN going down that road. WN has the same size equipment as all the airlines flying ...
Jump to postIf WN were interested in serving somewhere in Montana, I would thing Billings would be the obvious choice, not Bozeman. Much larger market (Montana's only city of over 100,000) and close enough to Bozeman to capture that market anyway. I don't think they're interested in either, so all hypothetical...
Jump to postPretty much zilch.There are far bigger fish to fry and WN would have a hard time filling up 3-4 daily 737s right off the bat. That would require a minimum of 400 pax per day each way to make the market reasonable and I personally don't see there being 400 new pax daily for BZN right off the bat. Bo...
Jump to postIf INN, SZG, and GVA are ski airports so are DEN, SLC, BZN, and RNO, all of which get plenty of LCC service. Humor me, what LCCs really serve BZN. F9 is seasonal to DEN, maybe 1x daily and G4 serves LAS and AZA/IWA a couple of times a week? Billings is bigger, and close enough to Big Sky and has al...
Jump to postAA appears to be doing well in the new markets from DFW to the NW. Considering they didn’t fly at all from DFW to BOI, GEG and BZN three years ago, now all three will be twice daily mainline even in the slower fall period. JAC is also getting attention with fall service twice daily. BIL and MSO are ...
Jump to postAccording to America By Air (Smithsonian) American Airlines began both direction nonstop service between NYC and LA in November 1953 with DC7 aircraft.
https://airandspace.si.edu/exhibitions/ ... yday09.cfm
Obviously not SFO but earlier than the jets.
In the 1970s, the original Frontier operated flights Dallas - Denver - Casper - Billings - Great Falls and they were called Petroleum Club flights. The Dallas - Denver section served Steak and Lobster on the hour and forty minute all coach 737-200 flight.
Jump to postThe largests market in the ND, SD, WY, MT region by total passengers (YE July 2017 - BTS) are: BZN 1,144,000 FSD 1,041,000 BIL 833,000 FAR 802,000 MSO 773,000 JAC. 688,000 WNFlyGuy is probably right, BZN appears to be the most likely market in this region. BZN is the fastest growing airport north of...
Jump to postBecause BZN is home to a huge mega upscale resort with people who have very very very deep pockets. Even JetSuite is flying BUR/SJC to BZN. I'm pretty sure those deep pocket people usually have their own jets to fly on. Besides, the round-trip fare on DL LGA-BZN-LGA next June is $463. A ticket on D...
Jump to postNah. Never worked. Even for airlines more established at LGA. Delta tried California and so did ATA. Delta also tried SLC. All LGA Sat only services. All failed. Actually, Delta has done LGA - BZN on Saturdays for several years in the summer and it is scheduled to return next summer. Must be workin...
Jump to postDigging into the Frontier website, it is showing OKC, BUF and GRR as destinations. They don't show up on the home page but when you go to the secondary pages to edit the flights, these cities show on the list.
Jump to postI'm not so sure the Frontier schedule change is insignificant. It appears to be a very significant business model change. Perhaps it is an error but there appears to be major changes in the works. My guess is this is only the beginning. If one looks closely, there are market increases and decreases ...
Jump to postAmerican is already implementing their strategy to the Pacific Northwest. But while so many are focusing on PDX and SEA, they have expanded significantly in the secondary markets such as:
EUG - LAX/PHX
MFR - LAX/PHX
RDM - LAX/PHX
BZN - DFW/ORD
BOI - DFW/ORD
GEG - DFW
BIL - DFW
While the extra width was nice it came at the expense of legroom. If I remember correctly, Piedmont's configuration was 94 seats in a 3/2 arrangement and Frontier's was 97 seats in a 3/3 arrangement.
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/threeifbyair" class="quote" target="_blank">threeifbyair</a> (<a href="#20" class="quote">Reply 20</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> The d...
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Jump to postIt appears that BZN (Bozeman, Montana) will be announcing new air service today. (@bozemanairport twitter account) Anyone have any idea where it might be to?
Jump to postBozeman, Montana (<acronym title="Bozeman - Gallatin Field (BZN / KBZN), USA - Montana">BZN</acronym>) now has two daily mainline flights to Denver year round. They had mainline in the Summer and Winter to <acronym title="OLD: Denver - Stapleton International (DEN / KDEN) (closed), USA - Colorado AN...
Jump to postWhen I worked at an outstation many years ago, a mentor of mine once said "We let the marketing departments compete, out here in the spokes, we (airlines) take care of each other." I even remember one airline's staff working the other airline's flights so they could all be at the Christmas party. I'...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/enilria" class="quote" target="_blank">enilria</a> (<a href="#8" class="quote">Reply 8</a>):<br/><i>If it hurts small communities, isn't that on...
Jump to postUnfortunately, it is not that simple. The example given doesn't take into account that the non-stop <acronym title="Washington - Ronald Reagan National (DCA / KDCA), USA - Virginia">DCA</acronym>-<acronym title="Los Angeles - International (LAX / KLAX), USA - California">LAX</acronym> may be priced ...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/ridgid727" class="quote" target="_blank">ridgid727</a> (<a href="#9" class="quote">Reply 9</a>):<br/><i>Yes Yes, If <acronym title="United Airli...
Jump to postHere is <acronym title="Bozeman - Gallatin Field (BZN / KBZN), USA - Montana">BZN</acronym> today for all airlines: Delta <acronym title="Minneapolis / St. Paul - International / Wold-Chamberlain Field (MSP / KMSP), USA - Minnesota">MSP</acronym>: 4 - MD90 MD90 MD90 MD90 <acronym title="Salt Lake Ci...
Jump to postA better question might be what airports with 757 service would have it replaced by A320/737 service if they had a longer runway.
Jump to postGEG is getting the benefit of the experience that <acronym title="Delta Air Lines (USA)">DL</acronym> has in the <acronym title="Atlanta - Hartsfield-Jackson Int (The William B Hartsfield / Municipal / Candler Field) (ATL / KATL), USA - Georgia">ATL</acronym> Montana market. <acronym title="Delta Ai...
Jump to postDelta will offer non-stop service between Bozeman, Montana and New York LaGuardia on Saturdays from June 21 - September 27 with an A319. This is a surprising new route for both airports. For Bozeman, this is the second announcement in two days. <a href="http://www.bozemanairport.com/news-detail.php?...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/milesrich" class="quote" target="_blank">milesrich</a> (<a href="#41" class="quote">Reply 41</a>):<br/><i>Quoting zrs70 (Reply 24):NW used to al...
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Jump to postDelta's schedules for summer 2014 into Montana include the following expansion compared to summer 2013: Billings - Atlanta - New Saturday non-stop to Atlanta Bozeman - Atlanta - Non-stop service expanded from three times weekly to daily Bozeman - Los Angeles - Non-stop service expanded from once wee...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/PSU.DTW.SCE" class="quote" target="_blank">PSU.DTW.SCE</a> (<a href="#0" class="quote">Thread starter</a>):<br/><i>Also, <acronym title="Delta A...
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