You are absolutely right, but I've never claimed Airbus didn't receive subsidies; repayable or low interest it is still their only means of bringing a new product to market with a chance of profitability . But here's the thing, I don't think Boeing are innocent either. And that's what makes this wh...Jump to post
MUC and FRA will be quite a dull place in a few years. For sure they will be more lively and classy in few years. :) I didn't like the livery days before. Meanwhile I like it. It is elegant and classic. In my view it is a good idea to give the colour blue a more important role. I completely agree. ...Jump to post
https://i.imgur.com/Jfvztuq.jpg I guess this shows that the general public on average has better taste imho than quite a number of posters here. But as always the ones opposing the change are much more vocal than the ones approving a change. Especially where emotions come into play we see this phen...Jump to post
There's a presentation video in the Lufthansa Intranet about the developement of the new livery. In that video they also show other livery drafts that have been considered but disregarded. Many of the drafts from this very forum thread are shown there and obviously lost against the final livery. Ma...Jump to post
My money is on a split board within Lufthansa on this one and that it has plenty of opposition from within as well as support. If that were true something would have leaked out to the media very soon. Or the change would not have been put into effect in the company at all. You are just speculating ...Jump to post
You are using deferred costs against Boeing - where is the 30 Billion for the A380 accounted for? Those are already fully written off by Airbus. So these development and ramp-up costs don't play any role anymore in Airbus's financial results. Only the small operational result (which I believe is a ...Jump to post
Oh, c'mon, please! There's nothing sharp, inventive or innovative in stripping the entire fuselage of any colour, conceptual design, marquees or logos... it's...absolutely empty, it's VOID... The result is hardly phenomenal. It's a pure white fuselage with a dark blue fin. End of story. Even though...Jump to post
Lufthansa must be the first airline to do this. I can't think of any other. It's an interesting approach to corporate branding, and time will tell if it succeeds. Nice to see some creative thinking for once, instead of standard approach of slapping the airline colours over everything. I think so to...Jump to post
It's undergoing the same sort of continuous improvement, including feedback from the flight test and certification programme that every airliner does. Improvment on what is already the most advanced jetliner ever built :) Rgds Continuously raising the bar, as all aircraft, engines and system manufa...Jump to post
It's a shame Lufthansa settled on such a lame livery. What a disappointment, what a missed opportunity. -ir The way I see it they succeeded much better than almost everyone to take a very sharp and integral look at their corporate identity. I am very impressed with the results of that strategy so f...Jump to post
They've uploaded an English version of the presentation: https://youtu.be/_puSnvKy_ak I think it is very good that they have taken this effort for the non-German speaking world to explain the idea behind the operation. After viewing it I guess now many more people than before will understand and ap...Jump to post
I anticipate that over the next few years Airbus profit and cashflow will rebound strongly I'll tell you what isn't happening A lazy workforce :shakehead: Poor efficiency :shakehead: Arcane financial practices :shakehead: Selling its planes too cheaply :shakehead: Ignore those peddling these messag...Jump to post
Sky blue is not a luxury color in the abstract, but it is when it’s Tiffany. Context is EVERYTHING. The yellow (IMPO) was a crucial part of communications for Lufthansa- could it have been used in a new way: sure. Tossing it out may come as a regret. It does feel as if Lufthansa has Singapore envy ...Jump to post
A350-1000 airfield performance turns out to be better than anticipated, while weight is on target. Full article http://aviationweek.com/singapore-airshow-2018/airbus-debuts-a350-1000-singapore-airshow These numbers are significantly better than previously thought. I would say a job well done to Air...Jump to post
I think one way to look at it is that despite LH being an airline, it realized that most interaction with the airline has very little to do with the outside of the airplane. I wouldn’t be surprised if they worked on digital channels, crew uniforms, airport signage, and cabin items+ interiors first,...Jump to post
If you have 20 minutes to spare, there is a good video about the principles of the re-design: https://youtu.be/liC1P6RUK-g Thanks for posting this. The whole thing they have undertaken makes a lot more sense now. I already liked what they have done to the outside skin of the aircraft, but the total...Jump to post
redroo wrote:Can you buy non RR on the A350?
http://aviationweek.com/singapore-airshow-2018/airbus-debuts-a350-1000-singapore-airshow Revealing the outcome of recently completed flight tests, Airbus says the Rolls-Royce Trent XWB97-powered aircraft is meeting or beating performance targets. Empty weight is on specification at 129,000 kg (284,...Jump to post
20 hours on a plane? That will be cruel and inhumane. Well, SQ has done it also with the flights to and from New York and LA. But it is a very long time to spend in an aircraft. But no doubt there is a market for it. In case of Qantas the A350, which is smaller than the B777-8, looks to me more sui...Jump to post
Braybuddy wrote:The more I look at the new livery the more I like it. The old tail was stuffy 1970s in the extreme; the new one is much more contemporary and clean. I totally get it.
Hmm I’m actually not a fan. The logo is too much “in your face” and I don’t like it when you can’t see the entire circle. A bit more yellow could have been nice, but I agree with your comment. The two colour scheme is nothing which shouts out loud, but it is another timeless livery. Combined with t...Jump to post
lhrnue wrote:I thought the engines will be blue too?
As Stitch pointed out up-thread, why would Boeing have spent tens of Billions to produce an all-new NSA that might be, at best, 5% more efficient than an A320neo but would be vastly more expensive to buy? That just doesn't make any sense. :shakehead: IMHO, you won't see an all-new A320/737 replacem...Jump to post
Just as expected: a joint venture, and not a takeover. Indeed. No real surprise here and again, just as with the MAX following the "neo", Boeing is following the moves that Airbus makes. ;) But for Boeing and Embraer this can be a fruitful partnership in this third company they will both ...Jump to post
But back to the Lufthansa livery. It reminds me of this quote: " A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away ." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery It's a sentiment I agree with, but if they took away anything more,...Jump to post
seahawk wrote:Nice, finally the yellow is gone. The white fuselage and the darker blue gives it a timeless elegance.
I think Hawai's A330NEO's on order will become -900's. ] From the CEO comments, Hawaiian appears to be preferring A321s to A330s. I think there is an equal change the A330neos become A321s. Not sure where you got that from, as the CEO didn’t say it. He said the A321neo is the right aircraft for the...Jump to post
HtC wrote:A321-251NX Airbus D-AVZO MSN7877
AzriOne wrote:Hello there, is there any new news on the 787 options?
I wonder if KE is involved in the rumoured "mega order" that is supposed to be Leahy's farewell fanfare at the Singapore Airshow? Or is it all just hot air? Maybe, but I don't expect them to be. Which is based just on a feeling I have. And that mega order could easily be hot air, but it c...Jump to post
Anyone know which LH A346 routes still exist in Summer 2018? I believe 13 frames are required to operate that schedule. Luckily they still fly these graceful birds. On the fuel economy side they are outdated, but I love to see them and made quite a number of very fine flights on LH's A346's. :) It ...Jump to post
On the 26th of this month one of the few remaining ladies visited Rotterdam/The Hague for a mere 1,5 hours......2.200 meters of runway is no issue when you arrive from the Antilles. Customs and immigration were eventually completed at Schiphol! No Tax On Rotax It was very nice to see the diverted a...Jump to post
So again, both the A359 and 789 have sold more than the 78X since it was launched. Luckily you are persistent in presenting the facts, even though those might not suit other peoples agenda's. ;) As many other posters have stated, the market offers now more and more versatile options than the B777-2...Jump to post
VCEflyboy wrote:Guess we’ll have to wait until 18:30 CET on feb 7..
Boeing’s statement is so stale and hypocritical. They have been subsidized heavily by the state, by military contracts. Let’s notnforget the tanker deal was done with an Airbus product initially. But Boeing stomped their feet and threw they’re weight around and now the tanker is a 767. Let’s not fo...Jump to post
That's how aerospace industry operates worldwide. Everyone gets subsidies over subsidies, Boeing and Airbus included. If you don't like it, leave. And everyone has the right to sell below cost, all industries included. Tell me which law requires you to sell above cost? This is economics 101, called...Jump to post
Bully-boy Boeing has had its :butthead: handed to it on a silver platter. Indeed they have. I always thought the complaint to be exaggerated and this ruling has confirmed it. If only the WTO-cases went as smooth as this one...... ;) Anyway, great news for Bombardier and Airbus and the US customer(s...Jump to post
leleko747 wrote:It's fake and this is the original picture:
Looks to me that even if they end up taking différent models, they want a kind of joint venture to pass one huge order to. And since Airbus and Bombardier have done exacly that recently, I feel AFKL is compelling them to "deliver" on that now. You may be right. But as always time will tel...Jump to post
In the end, only 3 possible outcomes : - AF, KLM, Joon, Transavia & Transavia fr goes all A320/A321 neo. - AF, KLM, Joon, Transavia & Transavia fr goes all 737 8/9/10 max. - AF & Joon goes A320/A321 neo while KLM & both Transavias goes 737 8/9 max. 1 or 3 could happen, 2 is more imp...Jump to post