That's why I qualified my post saying physically it can work and left out the economically part. ;) Just noting UA's Patrick Quayle ruled out DEN-AKL while in Auckland last March specifically due to the altitude reason - not for lack of demand or economic potential. He ruled this out because the “M...
Jump to postI find it amazing that DL chooses to fly to MAF and MFE which are small niche markets and not to DFW with a population of 6 million. I would think Delta could find other creative ways to burn money. Theyd probably lose more money flying to DFW. AA and WN would turn predatory in that case. They woul...
Jump to postSo can the 787 make the trip after all, even if seasonal? Anyone know? :scratchchin: Based purely off field elevation, JNB is 300 feet higher than DEN and sees year-round service to the US on 787s. Physically it can work. http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=jnb-ewr,+den-akl Not referring to you, but I do ...
Jump to postFWIW DL added a 2nd flight from ATL for a few weeks over the holidays (doesn't seem as long as the IAH add). 13DEC24-13JAN25 both EZE and SCL will get a second daily from ATL. The second EZE-ATL will be a daytime flight: · DL 279 ATL 19:00 EZE 07:00+1 D · DL 278 EZE 09:15 ATL17:40 D A different tim...
Jump to postLuke1994 wrote:Yes, let’s pop champagne over 1x FWA-DTW.
Do you guys like Dom P or Cristal better?
Question for those who might know better. I am a little surprised Delta and United keep their lounges open at PHL when looking at frequencies. Does anyone know if they fly a lot of premium traffic? I assumed in and out of PHL they fly mainly premium traffic from their hubs. Just curious background ...
Jump to postObviously taking a slap at Breeze, look for them to match Breeze fares, triple or quadruple FF points on these routes ... it will go on until one cries uncle ... But is it worth wasting resources/aircraft on opening a new station though when they could’ve just bumped up SLC-DFW/PHX frequencies inst...
Jump to postMy honest feeling after chewing on this a bit is that foreign carriers who do choose to fly to the US should be subject to the same regulations we put on our carriers. We do this with safety issues. If we deem a carrier is not adhering to the standards we put in place for our own carriers, we preven...
Jump to postCA, EY, and HU are currently allowed to use Russian Airspace for their flights to the US (I think-not 100% here), but they do not use it. A search of flight paths on a number of their routings to the US show that they go out of their way to not use Russian Airspace. A few quick points of clarificat...
Jump to postI’d say they should have done this when the U.S. carriers were banned BUT since they didn’t it’s too late now. It was just a dumb oversight and doing it now will create problems with important regional allies like UAE and Turkey. So basically they screwed up and missed the opportunity. I don’t thin...
Jump to postAmerican Pro’s: Best international partners by far. Qatar, Cathay, JAL all super premium airlines with best in class service. By far? UA has EK, SQ and NH who are equal if not superior in quality to the above mentioned carriers? Not really. Product wise, SQ is probably above CX but NH is definitely...
Jump to postThis is a topic that has been talked about in pieces in several threads. I thought it would be good to have a look at it given the push currently being made by AA, DL, and UA as well as their unions to restrict frequency increases by Chinese airlines on the basis they can overfly Russia. I know the ...
Jump to postThe US carriers are asking the US government not to approve additional US-China flights. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-airlines-unions-urge-biden-not-approve-more-china-flights-2024-04-11/ CA doesn't appear to be using Russian Airspace. https://www.flightaware.com/live/fligh...
Jump to post> A major reason American’s operating margins trailed “around 3 points below Delta’s and United’s,” explains Syth, is a hangover from the U.S. Airways union. “The merger involved dis-synergies,” she says. “It didn’t result in cost improvements. American had to raise the legacy U.S. costs to the hig...
Jump to postThe Cleveland area has no need in the slightest to expand any of their other airports. CLE is no where near at capacity for an airport with its capability. Its not even at half of what it could handle. Any dime spent on BKL is a waste. You want more carriers and flights at CLE? Turn it into a facili...
Jump to postWhat? AA flying 2x daily and DL 1x daily and "no one seems to be able to make it work"?? I think both would disagree with you. AA is an absolute monster in EZE and their position of strength allows them to make 2x daily JFK. Their loyalty and credit card prowess in Argentina are something...
Jump to postwarpedreality wrote:Is the EWR-EZE O&D market smaller than the IAD-EZE O&D market?
While you already listed some important points, there are a few you have left out. 1. About half the Y+ seating UA offers. 2. Outdated technology compared to UA (Limited but mainly on the app). 3. Lack of investment in hub facilities (Varies by airport but look at places like PHL, CLT, MIA, etc.). ...
Jump to postBDL had nonstop service to Montego Bay via Sprit last year and dropped it due to low demand ... this despite having nearly 60,000 CT citizens from Jamaica and a $ 2,000,000 state guarantee to operate the route https://www.wtnh.com/news/connecticut/hartford/spirit-airlines-stopping-non-stop-service-...
Jump to postIAH-EZE is a consistently strong performer in UA's South American portfolio, whereas EWR-EZE was more marginal when it was operated seasonally in the past. Among the US3, IAH is the least-circuitous connection point for most of the western USA, so there is some logic to beefing up a point of streng...
Jump to postlavia wrote:So I understand EUK should close the successful MAN base, because it'd be counter productive to the JV?
Is Montego Bay doing well on its routes to other cities or it just CLE that has light loads? Jamaica is still a level 3 "Reconsider Travel" on the State Dept's advisory system--and Montego Bay is not a walled-off paradise from the rest of Jamaica: Jan. 23, 2024: "Country Summary: Vio...
Jump to postNo doubt AA could make MAN-DFW work especially with the large BA FF catchment around Manchester - but PHL, CLT will come first MAN-PHL would be a great route for the A321NX that AA has on order. DFW would come before CLT. CLT only has a handful of European routes and half of them are flown only dur...
Jump to postSQ make SIN-MAN-IAH work (the IAH tag is mainly MAN-IAH traffic) so there is physical proof that Manchester to Texas is viable. AA operated this route some time in the mid 90s if memory serves. IAH and DFW are different markets and have different capabilities. IAH-MAN is largely energy traffic boun...
Jump to postThe problem with the "grow, grow, grow" mentality is that it requires large scale economic or population growth to accompany it. In a place like Cleveland, "if you build it, they will come" doesnt really work. It only works in super high growth places like Austin, DFW, or Phoenix...
Jump to postJust goes to show you how powerful a hub DFW is. There is no O&D component with AY, but any JV partner of AA can fill a plane from DFW to anywhere! Do you have PDEW for HEL-DFW? I know it’s not much, and Nokia is nothing compared to what it used to be, but it’s still a large enterprise - and No...
Jump to postI wonder if UA is involved in these discussions at all? A direct flight between Denver and Auckland, New Zealand, is being discussed alongside the agreement, Polis and Collins said, which drew support from Denver International Airport CEO Phil Washington who attended the event at New Zealand-based ...
Jump to postHonestly, I thought they already flew IAH-BOS. Very surprised that they haven't tried it yet. IAH/PDX/SAT/STL seem like big holes in DL's BOS network. I will say the odds of DL flying IAH-BOS are much higher than them flying IAH-SEA IMO. Not just because of market size but because, based on all the...
Jump to postJust goes to show you how powerful a hub DFW is. There is no O&D component with AY, but any JV partner of AA can fill a plane from DFW to anywhere! I wonder if Manchster or Osaka could come back? (I think MAN was served...maybe not. But I know KIX was). Hard no on both. Neither are hubs for JV ...
Jump to postI agree that BKL is not needed - it is underutilized. As is CLE. As is CAK. The region is shrinking. CLE and the other small airports in NE Ohio can absorb the operations currently being handled by BKL. 1. The only airport that can absorb the operations at BKL is Hopkins and it shouldn't because yo...
Jump to postThe TK announcement (finally) and AF going year-round are exciting developments! Phil Washington said that the airport's priorities for international expansion are now AMS, ADD, and "other parts of Japan." (https://coloradosun.com/2024/04/04/denver-istanbul-flights-turkish-arilines/). The...
Jump to postJust goes to show you how powerful a hub DFW is. There is no O&D component with AY, but any JV partner of AA can fill a plane from DFW to anywhere!
Jump to postJust took UA from EZE this week. It's interesting that UA choose to go double daily on IAH-EZE. I get that NYC already has AA and DL at JFK, but would have thought EWR or even ORD so the East Coast flyers don't have to backtrack. They have to lose some people not willing to fly too far out of the w...
Jump to postI sure would love to see IAH-BOS/SEA.... Honestly, I thought they already flew IAH-BOS. Very surprised that they haven't tried it yet. IAH/PDX/SAT/STL seem like big holes in DL's BOS network. I will say the odds of DL flying IAH-BOS are much higher than them flying IAH-SEA IMO. Not just because of ...
Jump to postI don't doubt it's India-heavy, but is there a source for those numbers? I figured at least 1-2 European markets (e.g., MUC, MAN, maybe PRG) might be high as well. And not sure about PEK or HKG (although there's still a big Covid impact on those markets). ? Cirium. The data is not public. MAN and P...
Jump to postOMA-SFO goes to 2x daily in October after not operating this summer with latest schedule update. So weird as the strong months on the route are March-August of which it isn't operating at all (it ended end of October 2023). There’s little chance that sticks. Daily maybe but definitely no double It ...
Jump to postIAH has about half the domestic O&D that ATL has while having about 25% more international O&D. Its just an internationally geared market compared to other mid-Continent hubs. Why I go into that detail is that it somewhat explains why IAH isnt exactly AA or DL's rush to market for increased...
Jump to postI sure would love to see IAH-BOS/SEA.... You're a guy with the data. What are the PDEWs, and why do you think UA/AS don't have those markets covered adequately from a legacy service model pov? Granted IAH is an odd bird for its peer mid-Continent airport markets (DFW, ATL, ORD, DEN, MSP, DTW, etc)....
Jump to postjoeljack wrote:OMA-SFO goes to 2x daily in October after not operating this summer with latest schedule update. So weird as the strong months on the route are March-August of which it isn't operating at all (it ended end of October 2023).
UA will go double daily (from 10x w) on IAH-EZE effective 01DEC24 Just took UA from EZE this week. It's interesting that UA choose to go double daily on IAH-EZE. I get that NYC already has AA and DL at JFK, but would have thought EWR or even ORD so the East Coast flyers don't have to backtrack. The...
Jump to postI think it’s a matter of time until UA relaunches seasonal IAD-EZE. Could feed well from MW/NE; IAH-EZE does so well it can survive on Texas and West Coast alone. Unlikely any time soon, given Argentina's economic situation including currency, + the FAA oversight. It will be a long time before UA a...
Jump to postcodc10 wrote:Multiple sources saying the FAO cancellation is related to FAA inquiry which has placed approval of new international flying on hold.
Those are its biggest intercontinental markets, yes. Not entirely accurate. According to Argentina's ANAC statistics for FEB2024 the top intercontinental routes from Argentina, measured by paxs carried, were: 1. Madrid 2. Miami 3. Panama City 4. New York JFK 5. Rome 6. Mexico City 7. Houston IAH 8....
Jump to postFloridaMakos wrote:LAXdude1023 wrote:FloridaMakos wrote:Air India and MIA are discussing adding service.
https://www.miamitodaynews.com/2024/04/ ... air-links/
Not really news. All airports talk with all airlines all the time about new service.
While true, I’m just sharing the article.
MIA-EZE is overwhelmingly EZE point of sale, its MIA's largest international O&D market at a whopping over 700 PDEW, and the Argentina POS will be easier to sell AR to. JFK-EZE isnt even 1/3 the size of MIA-EZE and still has 3 daily flights. Seems better to add more capacity to MIA.
Jump to postThe TK announcement (finally) and AF going year-round are exciting developments! Phil Washington said that the airport's priorities for international expansion are now AMS, ADD, and "other parts of Japan." (https://coloradosun.com/2024/04/04/denver-istanbul-flights-turkish-arilines/). The...
Jump to postFloridaMakos wrote:Air India and MIA are discussing adding service.
https://www.miamitodaynews.com/2024/04/ ... air-links/
I don’t think trade unions started in Chicago… Like it or not Chicago has a well earned, well deserved reputation for corruption. Of course people will be suspicious about projects the city will be involved in. Many trade unions are good, some have insane histories of corruption. Put Chicago and tra...
Jump to postJust to add to it, DFW's current largest unserved international markets are HYD, BOM, DEL, BLR, MAA, and SGN in that order. VERY India heavy. I don't doubt it's India-heavy, but is there a source for those numbers? I figured at least 1-2 European markets (e.g., MUC, MAN, maybe PRG) might be high as...
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