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by SANFan
Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 79
Views: 5117

Re: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018

I wouldn't argue against any of your SAN-OAK rationale other than to say that i don't think it's necessarily about AS' views on OAK but rather AS' views on WN in regards to OAK. 900 PDEW is huge. So is WN. :-) Absolutely but I wonder how many thought the same thing when AS started SAN-SJC in summer...

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by SANFan
Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 79
Views: 5117

Re: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018

The hammer is dropping from WN at SJC already, but AS is still pushing ahead there. I guess they figure whatever they do at SJC, the response from WN would be a little worse at OAK, so no point in trying? Even if that's the case, it's still odd to accept WN poisoning various wells with capacity and...

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by SANFan
Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 79
Views: 5117

Re: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018

I know OAK has been discussed on a couple of posts on this thread. And I know it's apparently not a real growth target for AS (mostly due to the large WN hub there.) OAK-SAN however is a market that I keep waiting for AAG to jump into. AS is WN's only competition on SAN-SJC and SAN-SMF yet SAN-OAK c...

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by SANFan
Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AUS to become a Delta Focus City
Replies: 119
Views: 12648

Re: AUS to become a Delta Focus City

Just saw this link stating AUS will officially become a focus city. Any speculation on new routes that could realistically be added from DL at AUS? https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2018/06/20/austin-will-become-a-delta-focus-city-mini-hub/# I have no particular reason to regularly check on ...

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by SANFan
Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

The int'l air carrier I was thinking that is a possibility is COPA.remember just a few months ago COPA was interested in starting service here but couldn't due to that flack with the customs officers that would have to be paid overtime? It could be that COPA starts service here after the new FIS ga...

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by SANFan
Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS announces SMF-KOA
Replies: 51
Views: 4445

Re: AS announces SMF-KOA

I suspect that SAN is next on the list for more Hawai'i growth (additional flying). A buddy and I were discussing this the other day and thinking we might at least see AS keep all 4 flights (to 4 islands) from SAN daily year-round, as they are this summer. But when the 8/26 skeds came out a week or...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

I just received my SAN Newsletter (June edition, the first of 2018) and it includes this notification: The Airport Development Plan (ADP) is the next phase of master-planning intended to identify improvements that will enable the airport to meet regional travel demand through 2035 and beyond. The ce...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 79
Views: 5117

Re: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018

I wouldn't mind seeing AS and B6 merge as well. The issue to me that AS has is a weak east coast network. Sure major cities have 1 or even 2 flights a day. But say you want to go to Jacksonville. Or Buffalo. Or Providence. You can't do that with AS and with the DL partnership gone and AA pretty wea...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS announces SMF-KOA
Replies: 51
Views: 4445

Re: AS announces SMF-KOA

AS is reducing SFO-KOA from daily to 4x/wk, so that's where the a/c is going on the opposite days. SMF-LIH is a market with strong potential. It's gotta happen sometime soon! What do you base this statement on? Source please. It's taken decades for SMF-KOA to start, ironically right around the time...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

This is pretty exciting. It'll be nice for AS passengers when they won't have to change terminals once AS moves into their T2E space next year. I assume the airport will have a big media day on the date of the opening. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a new international announcement too? Hopefully...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

Just noticed on the AS SAN info page (link: https://www.alaskaair.com/content/airports/california/san-diego/san-diego-international ) the following notice: Beginning June 30, 2018: International flights will arrive at Gates 48-51 in Terminal 2W. Please allow plenty of time for connecting to domestic...

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by SANFan
Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

About 2 weeks ago, in Reply #265 in this thread, I reported all the new routes for SAN in 2018 as of that date. The total at that time was 11 announced. I'm happy to update that number: as of today, make that 17 new routes so far to start this year! We've added a whole slew of F9 routes: PIT, IND, M...

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by SANFan
Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS Starting SAN-GEG Service
Replies: 42
Views: 4954

Re: AS Starting SAN-GEG Service

I predict you will see more OO West Coast flights. They need to place the 5 aircraft that are doing the DCA/LGA flights somewhere... They may hold off to see what happens to PAE. Maybe some of those 175's will replace the CRJ's flying within Alaska's system right now. I assume those 5 EMJs flying t...

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by SANFan
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Washington State Air Service Discussion 2018
Replies: 186
Views: 14324

Re: Washington State Air Service Discussion 2018

I think one more thing that might help the SAN-GEG is today's economic environment. It is much better today than it was back when AS served the market with CRJ-700's. Absolutely. Also, in 10 years the traffic has certainly increased to the level that it is today -- 130 PDEW average in 2017! Lastly,...

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by SANFan
Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS Starting SAN-GEG Service
Replies: 42
Views: 4954

Re: AS Starting SAN-GEG Service, Without Announcement

https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/2018-06- ... Washington

Nice to see more growth in SAN in 2018! Keep it coming AAG.

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Update: the official announcement is out (about 5 this morning) so I'm a happy camper! Here's the link:
https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/2018-06- ... Washington

Nice to see more growth in SAN in 2018! Keep it coming AAG.

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by SANFan
Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Washington State Air Service Discussion 2018
Replies: 186
Views: 14324

Re: Washington State Air Service Discussion 2018

I think SAN has more connection opportunities than the last time AS flew the route. GEG will be more-or-less an O&D market...not so many connections, but I could be surprised. It might a good mileage connection to/from SEA. There would be connections to Cabo for sure, and prolly PVR. Maybe a HI...

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by SANFan
Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

Thank you Amador . That's the first link I've seen concerning the issues at PAE. This has got to be a pain for the cx; do they redeploy the a/c they were earmarking for the PAE service or let them sit idle on the chance that things go smoothly and quickly and they will need the planes for PAE after ...

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by SANFan
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS Starting SAN-GEG Service
Replies: 42
Views: 4954

Re: AS Starting SAN-GEG Service, Without Announcement

All of this curiosity about "why SAN-GEG?" and nobody's bothered to post the DOT traffic stats. Until now. The average pax traffic for all of 2017 between SAN and GEG was 130 PDEW! That's an extremely healthy number of pax, especially for a 76-seat EMJ! (And probably explains why WN even m...

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by SANFan
Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS Starting SAN-GEG Service
Replies: 42
Views: 4954

Re: AS Starting SAN-GEG Service, Without Announcement

Ummmmm...... ??? Thanks S.

A bit confused... still. You're saying it WAS announced today where? Or maybe it was supposed to be?

And I'm very happy RDM is getting mainline equipment but just what has that to do with SAN-GEG (on an EMJ) -- the topic of this thread?

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by SANFan
Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

Seeing that PAE start date is being pushed back to probably sometime in early 2019 due to the FAA review. It could be idle aircraft time relocated to GEG instead. Flyguy I suspected that PAE or GEG was coming -- to fill a gap in SAN's 8/26 turn sked -- and I remembered the rumor about PAE being del...

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by SANFan
Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Washington State Air Service Discussion 2018
Replies: 186
Views: 14324

Re: Washington State Air Service Discussion 2018

AS is starting (actually, re-starting) service between GEG and SAN on Oct 1; a daily EMJ will serve the route which is on the AS online schedules. The interesting facet of this new service is that there has been no announcement of the route by Alaska. The route magically appeared on the AS schedules...

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by SANFan
Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

AS is starting SAN-GEG service on Oct 1; it will be a daily EMJ with the following schedule: #3462 DLY Begins 10/1 Dep SAN 5:40pm Arr GEG 8:25pm #3416 DLY Begins 10/2 Dep GEG 7:10am Arr SAN 9:55am One interesting item of note: there has been no announcement of this new route by the airline! Maybe th...

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by SANFan
Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS Starting SAN-GEG Service
Replies: 42
Views: 4954

AS Starting SAN-GEG Service

Good news : AS is beginning nonstop service between SAN and GEG (Spokane) on Oct 1 with a daily EMJ roundtrip! (It's in the schedules.) Bad news : to the best of my knowledge there has been no announcement by the carrier of this new route. In fact, I have no idea how long the route has been for sal...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

I’m surprised to see that AS doesn’t time their HNL/OGG flights to line up with connections better. I’m guessing there is more than enough O&D to sustain them, but I would think there would be a fair amount of connecting traffic from STS/BOI/OMA/FAT/ABQ/MRY if flights lined up? At least SJD and...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

AAG's late August/early Sept schedule has recently been finalized -- more or less -- with a couple of things of note. Most interesting is that it appears some new flight/route will be added to the schedule -- at least one new one I should say. There is an EMJ flight departing about 10:30am that does...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 626
Views: 51979

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2018

Also, Alaska really needs to move PDX-MSP to mainline Boeing 737 service. I have relatives that live in the Minneapolis area, and in trying to book a flight there and back, Alaska's E175 flights are almost always full, with usually only first class seats left; even as far out as October!!! Alaska's...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Are any AS painted Airbus' at SEA yet & routes
Replies: 32
Views: 3609

Re: Are any AS painted Airbus' at SEA yet & routes

On the newly released late August/early Sept schedule, SAN now sees the 6 SFO AirBus flights -- direct takeover of the Virgin route -- plus our SEA route sees 4+ daily AirBi r/t, SAN-PDX has 1 'Bus r/t, and all of our Cabo service, that's 12 flts/week on that schedule, is now on AirBuses. We now see...

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by SANFan
Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

This really is not a route for F9 and it's a real shame that all real airlines -- AS, DL, WN -- have continued to ignore it so far. I had hoped that this would be one route that AAG would grab and get the full SAN incentive package for it. AS continues to lose out on the last of the low-hanging fru...

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by SANFan
Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

We finally got a link to RDU! I thought for sure it would be AS or WN, or DL as a longshot, I didn't count on F9! With an A321 to boot! I figured you'd enjoy seeing that route getting served, L-Man! Twice weekly (permanent or seasonal?) is not what most people wanted but it is something! With those...

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by SANFan
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 333
Views: 34425

Re: Southwest Airlines Network Thread 2018

Interestingly, today F9 announced service in both of WN's seasonal markets out of SAN -- IND and MKE. (I do not consider SAN-GEG as a seasonal route; I count it as a dropped route.) I couldn't really care less about the F9 service in the markets EXCEPT that perhaps it will shake WN up a bit and enco...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 811
Views: 66720

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

As part of my A.net-wide rant about F9, I'm confused about CLE-SAN. It was operated last year -- as seasonal or year-round, who knows? -- and it ended in October. Of course there was no word about the status of the service at that time: suspended, seasonal, or cancelled. Nice. So now we see today th...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Frontier Airlines announces 15 new routes
Replies: 37
Views: 4741

Re: Frontier Airlines announces 15 new routes

Unless I missed the word in the PR, F9 does not even bother to announce 'seasonal' or 'year-round' any more. I can understand that because when they DID mention the route status, it never meant anything anyway. I did see over on the IND-thread that the new IND-SAN route is supposed to be year-round ...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1149
Views: 69075

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Service is slated to be year-round per the Director of IND: "Today Frontier Airlines announced it will launch a nonstop flight year-round to San Diego, increasing its nonstop destinations out of Indy to eight." “San Diego was our top unserved destination until last year when a seasonal no...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

Now that the original shock has worn off, and I've thought about this and read up a bit on the whole announcement, the luster has rubbed off. First, F9 also 'announced' that they are suspending 3 of SAN's existing routes right about the same time as these 5 new routes are starting. Here's the quote:...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Frontier Airlines announces 15 new routes
Replies: 37
Views: 4741

Re: Frontier Airlines media event at ONT - June 5th

And it appears F9 has stopped even labeling new routes as seasonal or year-round anymore -- it's always impossible to know... I don't even make an effort to keep track of what routes Frontier flies from SAN - here one day, gone the next... That's why I'm not overly thrilled to see even 5 new routes ...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's going on at RDU - 2018
Replies: 270
Views: 21512

Re: What's going on at RDU - 2018

Personal preferences aside, I wonder how long F9 will actually operate this route with this frequency. The W, Sa-only frequency isn't great, especially for weekend vacationers (and F9's market isn't business travelers). I'm sure the likes of WN and AS are going to be watching F9's load factors. As ...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 811
Views: 66720

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

CLE-SAN appears to be back on F9 SAN DIEGO (SAN) to/from CLEVELAND (CLE) F9 1615 Depart SAN: 10:17 a.m. Arrive CLE: 5:53 p.m. F9 1669 Depart CLE: 10:10 a.m. Arrive SAN: 11:52 a.m. Aircraft: Airbus A321 Frequency: Wednesday, Saturday Service Start: August, 15 Part of F9's multi-city announcement jus...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's going on at RDU - 2018
Replies: 270
Views: 21512

Re: What's going on at RDU - 2018

Frontier adds RDU-SAN. 2x weekly (Wednesday, Saturday) beginning August 15 on A321 equipment. F9 1717 Depart SAN: 12:52 PM. Arrive RDU: 9: 24 PM F9 1714 Depart RDU: 10:37 AM Arrive SAN: 1:12 PM You just beat me to it, while I was searching for the RDU-thread! Not the level of service -- or carrier ...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

I'm pretty much shocked and yes, speachless, but, I guess, in a good way! Anybody? bb WN thought they could just sit around and no one would take the bait, good move by F9, probably will wake WN up a little bit The timing on this is not a coincidence, considering WN's schedule extension was last we...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1149
Views: 69075

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

F9 nonstop IND-SAN is appearing on F9 on the A321! Here are the details: SAN DIEGO (SAN) to/from INDIANAPOLIS (IND) F9 1654 Depart SAN: 12:52 p.m. Arrive IND: 7:52 p.m. F9 1653 Depart IND: 11:52 a.m. Arrive SAN: 1:12 p.m. Aircraft: Airbus A321 Frequency: Monday, Friday Service Start: August, 13 Com...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 887
Views: 84325

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

F9 nonstop to SAN just announced: Summary of New Service SAN DIEGO (SAN) to/from PITTSBURGH (PIT) F9 1292 Depart SAN: 10:17 a.m. Arrive PIT: 6:42 p.m. F9 1293 Depart PIT: 9:46 a.m. Arrive SAN: 11:52 a.m. Aircraft: Airbus A321 Frequency: Monday, Friday Service Start: August, 13 A whole bunch of new r...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

Hot off the F9 website: Summary of New Service to SAN: SAN DIEGO (SAN) to/from PITTSBURGH (PIT) F9 1292 Depart SAN: 10:17 a.m. Arrive PIT: 6:42 p.m. F9 1293 Depart PIT: 9:46 a.m. Arrive SAN: 11:52 a.m. Aircraft: Airbus A321 Frequency: Monday, Friday Service Start: August, 13 SAN DIEGO (SAN) to/from ...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

For those interested, I did a similar dive for AA , also for 7/8/18 Pretty impressive "spoke" station! Hey, AAtakeMe' -- btw, shouldn't your screen name be "TAAke Me AAwAAy"? -- thanks for that. And I bet if someone wanted to create the same data for UA, it would be similar and ...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

Thanks SANFan, for putting that together. I think that S 19 will bring several new p2p and focus city routes that have been mentioned. Aw shucks, here you go again Capn ! But, yeah, I know, you don't know nothin'...! ;) Thanks for hanging around this thread. If DL added just IND, RDU, and CVG tgar ...

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by SANFan
Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 317
Views: 30686

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

Since there was a bit of discussion a week or so ago about DL 'maybe adding service soon' at SAN, I decided to create a SAN turn-sked and I used July 8 as the date. Wow! Here are the counts for daily nonstops, by route, effective that date: ATL - 7.5 (including 2 red-eye departures; 2 of the ATL fli...

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by SANFan
Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 6/3/2018:AA Adds DFW-BUF/DRT/ILM/SRQ,MIA-GSP/TYS;DL LAS-CDG for CES
Replies: 78
Views: 9975

Re: OAG Changes 6/3/2018:AA Adds DFW-BUF/DRT/ILM/SRQ,MIA-GSP/TYS;DL LAS-CDG for CES

Yes, we were discussing the “battle for California”, between WN and AS, seems to be happening at SJC. It was in one of the WN related threads. I find this very interesting, not only because I’m an SJC fanboy, but because of the AS/VX merger. If AS was so determined to do something big at SFO, why i...

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by SANFan
Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Upcoming Winter Schedule Release on 5/31
Replies: 261
Views: 22308

Re: WN's Upcoming Winter Schedule Release on 5/31

Well it Looks and sounds like the Political pressure from the NIMBY crowd has pressed the FAA to do another PAE environmental traffic Impact study. First Report was based off of only 15 daily flights. This will mostly likely push the openings date well into 2019. WN should stay committed to PAE whe...

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by SANFan
Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Upcoming Winter Schedule Release on 5/31
Replies: 261
Views: 22308

Re: WN's Upcoming Winter Schedule Release on 5/31

A couple of thoughts on WN vs. AS in CA. AS has 2 hubs and 2 focus cities in CA. WN has major ops in SAN, LAX, OAK, and now SJC and they're working on SMF as well. In SAN, both AS and WN have large ops -- WN #1 in town in every category while AS is #2 in destinations served and # daily departures &a...

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by SANFan
Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spirit Timetable - Discontinued or Moved?
Replies: 3
Views: 445

Re: Spirit Timetable - Discontinued or Moved?

you mean this one? https://www.spirit.com/content/Documents/en-US/timetable11MAR2018.pdf That's the one that the OP is referring too. He's asking why Spirit has allegedly stopped posting their timetable on their website, since there was no publishment for April and May, yet there was for February a...

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by SANFan
Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Upcoming Winter Schedule Release on 5/31
Replies: 261
Views: 22308

Re: WN's Upcoming Winter Schedule Release on 5/31

Wow, SJC has become a battleground. It will be interesting to see if AS blinks on SJC-TUC. I seem to remember someone saying the LFs haven’t been good on the route. If I remember correctly, the EMJ that flys from SJC to TUS every night is to be serviced at mx facilities in Arizona. An EMJ then head...

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