DL definitely takes full advantage of sending larger aircraft to outstations for RONs, and then return them back usually departing to the hub around 6am. I think this is a great use of airplane. Speaking again for DL, they do run a slimmer schedule Saturdays, very noticeably, but this may come from...Jump to post
What you tend to see a lot with at DL for DTW, MSP, ATL hubs is that they will send larger aircraft to RON and add more capacity at the flights when people what to arrive to outstations (evening) and depart (morning). These aircraft will often go onward on more "trunk" routes or "beyo...Jump to post
Just a thought but if Delta wanted to get better loads on it's flights and expand it's DTW-LHR capacity would they have not been better off putting the A350 on DTW-LHR rather than DTW-AMS You're assuming Delta wants to expand capacity on DTW-LHR. Delta, on the other hand, thinks DTW-AMS (connecting...Jump to post
DL DTW-India is 100% not happening. Like others have said, the fares on most US-India markets are very low. Here'e s tell-tale example: Fares are cheaper to India that most of Europe. DL DTW-AMS roundtrip 6/4-6/11, roundtrip in Y $1,547 DL DTW-AMS-BOM, BOM-CDG-DTW; roundtrip in Y $2,200 I actually ...Jump to post
DL DTW-India is 100% not happening. Like others have said, the fares on most US-India markets are very low.
Here'e s tell-tale example: Fares are cheaper to India that most of Europe.
DL DTW-AMS roundtrip 6/4-6/11, roundtrip in Y $1,547
DL DTW-AMS-BOM, BOM-CDG-DTW; roundtrip in Y $2,200
The only way DL / Skyteam can effectively capture TATL from PHL is with flights to AMS, CDG, LHR; whether there own metal or JV partners. They have basically tried almost everything but AMS in recent times. Can’t be everything to everyone especially in competitor hubs. Not all that indifferent that ...Jump to post
Pit-jfk was flow by DL to position the 757 for PIT-CDG.
I don’t believe JFK-PHL was a 757 as they were rotated via ATL flights or via CDG
The DTW-FRA DL upgauge to A350 coincides with the media and industry week for the North American International Auto Show in DetroitJump to post
Is the reduction in the BOS-SFO and BOS-LAX flying on DL's part an admission to not being able to compete with the competition on that route, or is it a seasonal adjustment? I did a dummy booking for February and March and didn't find an uptick in frequency. DL ALWAYS retrenches on the BOS transcon...Jump to post
I’m not surprised NK dropped DTW-PDX. This route is like the two kids in high school that date on and off and everyone knows about it because they spread the rumors like “did you hear PDX and DTW broke up again?” Drama route for all airlines! This resource needs to be allocated to an existing DTW r...Jump to post
DL is dropping 1x CRJ on JFK-PHL and replacing it with 4x CR9 on BOS-PHL.
For Skyteam TATL, they could route connections over BOS.
DTW is an option too but it essentially has the same options as connections over BOS or nonstops on AA out of PHL.
DL DTW-ROC NOV 4>0.4 DEC 4>1.1 This is definetely a misfile. DTW-ROC is always 3-4 per day and has been for decades. In October its 4x daily: E70, CR9, CR9, 717. In January its loaded back again as 4x daily. Wasn't this already announced a long time ago? *NK DTW-PDX JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 Thi...Jump to post
So was there even an emergency landing, since it doesn’t appear they were met by ARFF?
Did the smoke appear on taxi in after landing?
This is the most nonchalant slide evacuation I've ever seen. I've seen people deplane faster when they have a tight connection. I'm curious as to the decision criteria to order a slide evacuation once on the ground in this situation versus other incidents where there are emergency landings due to sm...Jump to post
I personally actually think ATL is an impressive hub and have no personal disdain for what DL has made it to be. However it can be a bit hectic, Concourse A An B can be a madhouse, and subject to spectacular meltdowns. 90% of the time it runs like a well oiled machine. a.net fanboy theorims: CVG fan...Jump to post
DL isn't getting rid of weekend-only seasonal DTW-SRQ. No way. Its loaded for next winter on Saturdays, varying between a 717 or A320 depending on the week. Its a popular leisure, second-home/vacaion property area, and snowbird retreat for people in the Midwest that love the gulf side of Florida. It...Jump to post
Some Data...... Longer haul flights such as the west coast and Florida do well, shorter haul markets not so much (but IMT/ESC being EAS markets, are to be expected to be worse). (Note: These are outbound statistics for domestic segments only) LAX, DEN, SRQ, SJU, and LAS look like they could take mo...Jump to post
Meanwhile.... Regarding the 777 mod, it appears that DL loaded the first modified 777 into the schedule starting in July, to be used on DTW-PEK on alternating days with an A350. The internal code for the seat map that shows is D7L and it shows the following layout: 28 Suites (1-2-1), 48 Premium Sele...Jump to post
Regarding the 777 mod, it appears that DL loaded the first modified 777 into the schedule starting in July, to be used on DTW-PEK on alternating days with an A350. The internal code for the seat map that shows is D7L and it shows the following layout: 28 Suites (1-2-1), 48 Premium Select (2-4-2), 22...Jump to post
What is the delivery schedule for A321's going forward? How many more A321's will be delivered and enter service in 2018? I was at LGA on Sunday afternoon and was surprised at the number of DL flights to florida that were operating A321 which just a few years ago were mostly MD-88/90 or 717-200... ...Jump to post
How many of you actually travel for business? This notion of same day trips of the much lauded “business traveler” is so overplayed and overhyped on a.net especially in markets where is doesn’t really exist. I travel fairly extensively for work, and know or observe the executives that travel and the...Jump to post
Air travel on any US domestic airline is extremely safe. Any data around incidents involved basically what amounts to statiscal outliers that fall outside the realm of random chance. Like they always say, the drive to and from the airport is more dangerous. I am more scared with all of the distracte...Jump to post
Can I ask a stupid question as to why 90% of the posts is this thread are rampant speculation, wish-lists, or pipe dreams about the future versus what is currently happening in the here and now? It seriously makes we question how much many of you actually use, visit, work, or fly through DTW versus ...Jump to post
side note: what in the world is this site? if this is run by any government entity its shameful, as that is clearly a Wardair 747 http://www.detroitmetro.com/departures/ That’s not an official website for DTW. My guess is it is someone who bought or obtained that domain and is using it for traffic ...Jump to post
Good gosh.... I’ve been gone for the past week and when you think this thread can’t get any worse, it does. Just ignore the troll that has made DTW the biggest joke of a.net and all will be fine. Anyways, a few random tidbits from today to change the subject. 1. Landed on 27L today, for the first ti...Jump to post
DTW-MCO is non-core network flying for B6 and would be going up against 2 very strong, entrenched carriers that both have very strong brand awareness and loyalty in the market. In the eyes of B6 there is nothing special about DTW-MCO that is no different than a myriad of dozens if not hundreds of ot...Jump to post
I'm borrowing some data/stats that we discussed last year for discussion's sake: From FSDan: http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1363451#p19552123 Year-over-year changes in flying at DTW: Summer 2012: DTW ER4: 16 CRJ: 262 CR7: 45 CR9: 44 E70: 1 E75: 17 D95: 8 319: 24 320: 31 M88: 23 M90: ...Jump to post
Yes, Parker has expressed concern about the operational inefficiencies from the aspect of passenger circulation, baggage transfers, and staffing/operations/utilization of the DFW terminals in the sense they are less-efficient / less-optimal than other types of concourse/terminal layouts. Much of thi...Jump to post
Its hard to look at the equipment changes in complete isolation, I know that FSDan typically does a pretty in-depth analysis for each of the legacies by hub by aircraft type that usually sheds some interesting analysis. DL swings so much capacity seasonally, up to about a 20% increase in ASMs from w...Jump to post
It is so difficult and expensive to build a new airport in major cities that I can't remember when a new airport for a large city was built. Its an asset to have another airport and DET should remain open and perhaps rehabbing it as cheaply as possible to make it attractive to several airlines with...Jump to post
1) In the US, destination ski traffic to resorts in the mountain west comes from the following markets 1) NYC 2) South Florida 3) Large Northeast markets BOS/PHL/WAS 4) Midwest (ORD, MSP, DTW) 5) Large markets in the Southeast (ATL, CLT, RDU) 5) International (UK and to a lesser extent some from Mex...Jump to post
I know the rules for air travel but I often forget when driving over to Canada, particularly on day-trips for work. I regularly pack my lunch, take some food to eat for the day. I've packed fruit and not eaten all of my lunch. I once didn't declare a banana that I bought at a grocery store in the US...Jump to post
ATL's growth in the recent past, and short-to-medium term is coming from increased seats per departure. DL can't increase flights/frequency at peak times in most markets, but will try to upgauge to ~180 seat aircraft as much as possible. Thus that means more 739/A321/757 flights and fewer RJ, 319/71...Jump to post
CTRL+C, CTRL+V from my post in the DTW Air Service 2017 #1,278,894 thread 8 months ago: --- There is no justification for the city/state/federal government to spend public money to make DET viable for commerical airline operations at this point. It is such an uphill battle it has all the hallmarks o...Jump to post
They either should have put the people on other airlines and paid the bill like a normal airline, or run a flight in the middle of the night like Delta often does and pick them up at 4am thereby not significantly disrupting the day time schedule. This is the type of behavior that invites new laws o...Jump to post
DL should go and fly a flight down there on Monday as a PR move and offer similar-priced fares just to slap SY in the face.Jump to post
This is bush-league, amateur-hour, Mickey-Mouse customer service and IRROPS. No wonder ULCCs get a bad rap. I find it hard to believe, with the massive disruption in MSP and boatloads of domestic flights cancelled that SY couldn't find a way to operate a rescue/recovery flight to get their customers...Jump to post
The route is timed to cater to BDL-originating traffic with a morning BDL-CLE and an evening CLE-BDL flight. The route is flown for several large corporate customers in the BDL region. Namely as said, Aetna & United Technologies. The route is able to also be flown using extra aircraft time that ...Jump to post
How does this all factor in with the recent announcement of AA retiring their pre-9/11 738s?Jump to post
I'm more impressed with how this story all broke with the website update, the deletion, then the hurried announcement on a Friday afternoon.
I'd love to know the backstory on this one.....
February statistics are out, total passengers -1.3% ytd. This should change since this month Frontier begins Islip and Austin, Spirit starts San Diego and Portland, Aeromexico starts Leon, and WOW starts Reykjavik. This summer vacation express is adding Freeport and Cozumel too. O&D is strong, ...Jump to post
Detroit is becoming a small tourist destination. Just for Electronic Music for example, there are quite a few connections between the birthplace of Techno and Berlin, or Germany as a whole really. Downtown Detroit, with Dan Gilberts constant new buildings has a large walkable core 24/7 now, and wha...Jump to post
Delta didn't add service at DTW to make it resemble other airports, no. That is a very, very, very different thing than its "commitment" to the DTW hub. For me, DL will make good on its commitment when it renovates those dreary, worn-out SkyClubs at DTW. If the "flagship" 359 ex...Jump to post