Re: Frontier Announces Lafayette, LA (LFT) to DEN & MCO

FA9295 wrote:

I think that business traffic in general, will try to avoid ULCC airlines, like Frontier, as much as possible.

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

As for ISP-ATL, I didn't think we'd see that one going away either. With the exception of some Florida routes, ISP seems to have not done that well for F9, since they've dropped MSP, DTW, ATL, and SJU now, and MIA and RSW were either axed or made seasonal. Except for Florida, ISP hasn't done very w...

Re: QuantasLink refurbishing fleet of Q300 and Q400

WN732 wrote:

You guys need to get over yourselves. So he spelled Quantas instead of Qantas. Everyone has done it. Big whoop, you wanna fight about it?

Re: Pacific Islands Aviation Thread 2018

FJ will name its latest aircraft (an A330), "Island of Vatulele". Villagers from Vatulele were invited to NAN to see the A330. Vatulele is a long, tiny island somewhat to the south of Suva, whose four villages represent some what less than a couple thousand people. It is home to the uniqu...

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

pwm2txlhopper wrote:

I won't pay for an ULCC with limited flights when the total fare and charges is going to be about the same or more than one of the majors

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

I just booked PWM-LAX-PWM for my dates with DL for $320. I'd rather not risk spending the night in an airport when a delay occurs withnFrontier and I miss the connecting flight. Frontier is not designed for people who can afford to fly Delta. Read what Bill Franke said when he bought the airline. m...

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

I was looking forward to Frontier starting PWM in a few weeks. I wanted to try them out to get to California. However, the itinaries completely suck...Do any of their other new routes have such crappy travel times that using them is a waste of time to save $100 The choice is offered to you before y...

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Not only did they try PIE...they tried PGD....so PGD/RSW is not the same market? Honestly, with Allegiant here, I wouldn't be surprised to see F9 come in. Probably not NK though I wouldn't be surprised to see them come into SRQ, with or without Allegiant. It isn't a prediction, merely a comment win...

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

If SRQ is close to RSW (which it is), not sure what we can call its relationship to TPA, which is next door. SRQ is a slightly niche market (i.e. higher end), but essentially part of the TPA metro. Not sure I see the value proposition of opening it up without a strategy for differentiating it to cu...

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

NWADTWE16 wrote:

some more love for RSW would be welcomed, and please for gods sake open SRQ!

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

While we’re on the note of destinations that F9 should return to, why haven’t they returned to BOS either? I heard something a while back about them having beef with the airport authority over gate fees or something like that, but it’s been ~15 years since they’ve left, so what’s stopping them from...

Re: Borghetti’s Virgin Australia

But that boat has sailed, a long, long time ago. I am not suggesting VA rebrand into AN now, doing so would be a retrograde step as the AN branding has long since lost its resonance and goodwill. As you rightly point out, efforts to reuse long-dead airline branding have not been successful. That wa...

Re: Borghetti’s Virgin Australia

Well, I have a formidable opposition in having a screen writer and a lawyer join forces to argue against me! ......but, I will try! If we go back to the days before JB became CEO, the old VB business had similar financial issues. A low share price and a very marginal business model that wasn't able...

Re: Borghetti’s Virgin Australia

The Virgin Blue/ Australia businesses have awards s relies upon the Virgin Brand and SRB as a figurehead in their marketing strategy. You're determined to let JB off the hook, aren't you? LOL. When the job became vacant JB was asked for this vision of Virgin - with which at least one member of the ...

Re: Borghetti’s Virgin Australia

juliuswong wrote:

IMO, I think JB overstayed his welcome. True that he has some missteps, he did great things as well. However, time has arrived for him to move on.

Re: Borghetti’s Virgin Australia

You can't blame JB for all of VA's woes!\ Who else will you blame? JB said "yes" and "no" - just as AJ did at Qantas, and whose shoes would you rather be in now? Borghetti was a disaster at Virgin. He took a small, cheerful, generally profitable airline and tried to turn into a ...

Re: Borghetti’s Virgin Australia

It will be mixed reviews with a lot of criticism. VA had a lot of potential but had greatly underperformed during JB's tenure with a number of poor decisions or executions that have been botched. I'll start with one statement - hundreds of millions of shareholder funds lost and for what - a second ...

Re: Britains First Sharia Airline

This. I'm Muslim and failing to see the point of this airline. Just ask for water when the FA asks what you want to drink. And a lot of airlines have halal/veggie meals. He wants to start his own airline\, like Michael Bishop and Stelios Haji-Ioannou. He thinks he's found a niche that'll make money...

Re: Britains First Sharia Airline

I've flown on several airlines that don't serve grog - I haven't had a problem.

If you want alcohol - fly another airline. People want to pray before they take off? Fine by me, I don't believe in whom they praying to anyway.

What other people do is their business.

mariner

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

Yeah, but those were announced all the way back in July 2017. Since then, all they have done is reduced routes from CVG CVG-SEA/MIA/FLL/PHX/PHL/CUN/IAH/SFO were cut, CVG-DEN/MCO/LAS/SFO/LAX lost frequency, and this fall many of the new routes will see more slashes in frequency. The adds of CVG-RDU/...

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

I personally think that expansion at CVG is going to slow to a crawl for F9. As predicted when WN first arrived at CVG, I think WN is going to take over F9's current role at CVG. DL is also certainly forcing the pressure, as they compete with on most of F9's routes. I can see some more seasonal 2-3...

Re: Frontier Airlines Network Thread 2018

I don't have insider info, but this number seems way off to me. I picked TPA to check because they announced a ton of routes at that time. Of the 10 routes they announced, I'm not seeing TPA-CMH/IND/MCI/MKE/MSP/BNA/STL for sale at all, a few other routes end before the end of the schedule. Of the 8...

Re: F9's Return to FAT

Midwestindy wrote:

How much do they pay you?

Re: F9's Return to FAT

Yes they are doing it. As I said it was not a knock on F9, sorry you seem to have taken it that way based on your LOL. I was simply making it clear that the previous post was only looking at one connection direction when using the term "short(ish)". The connection time is short one direct...

Re: Frontier at YYC

If YYC does well enough, it will interesting to see if they add YYC-MCO to the winter schedule. Or will they leave MCO to another Canadian station - say MCO-YYZ or MCO-YUL?

Of course, iI woould only take Westjet about a nano-second to add such route(s) as retaliatio, but that's okay.

mariner

Re: F9's Return to FAT

FATFlyer wrote:

Not a knock on F9, but with the current schedule Fresno travelers are having to endure long connections one direction or the other depending upon the destination.

Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

MAH4546 wrote:

I bet Frontier starts it back up.

Re: Anyone serving MIA-IAD?

Has Frontier stopped flying MIA-IAD?

mariner

Re: Frontier Airlines announces 15 new routes

I understand that F9 makes tons of money but I just like to know what routes, and when, an airlines flies, more than a couple of months in advance. I do not fly F9 or G4 but I do follow both of them here on A.net. I'll also say, congratulations to F9 for being successful with this particular busine...

Re: Frontier adds SAT-SNA and SLC

wnflyguy wrote:

Frontier holds 2 daily slots at SNA but temporary gave one back From January-August.
WN used the excess slot to temporarily bring back SNA-MDW service. It's been long rumored then using the other slot for less than daily adds from SNA!

Flyguy

Re: Frontier adds SAT-SNA and SLC

Frontier airlines is adding two new flights out of San Antonio: Orange County (SNA) and Salt Lake City(SLC). SAT-SNA starts on August 13th and SAT-SLC starts on August 15th. Interesting - both are available on the Frontier website, but I wonder where the slots for SNA are coming from? SNA-DEN seems...

Re: Frontier Airlines media event at ONT - June 5th

I think they do quite a bit more research than anyone gives them credit for. They're not stupid and F9 is making solid money. However, since they can start and cancel routes for less than most carriers, they're able to try more unconventional routes. Whereas most people here approach route profitab...

Re: Air Koryo resumes twice-weekly flights to Shanghai starting from May 31

32andBelow wrote:

I don’t think times are gonna effect if ppl are going to NK or not

Re: Midwest Express files with SEC in first step toward official comeback

Probably the original main MKE to XXX business routes without the over the top service. Knope has it pretty well nailed up- thread I know Knope's work well - and respect him enormously - and he puts his finger on what Midwest faces. The airline world has changed considerably since the glory years, ...

Re: Midwest Express files with SEC in first step toward official comeback

Midwest, as most people remember it, saw its darkest days after 9/11 and never really recovered. "Saver" was introduced and even the "Signature" meals were replaced by buy-on-board. Before Republic came along, there had been shenanigans with the stock price and the fleet - with N...

Re: Ireland decriminalizes abortion!

Most abortions are not caused by rape, incest or other monstrous acts. Most abortions are caused by irresponsible behavior of the woman getting the abortion. I will not condone anyone's murder of a child out of convenience, and that's what most abortions are. Pro choice my ass. And the men who fath...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2018

Yes, a classic a.net ism is that an airline's greatness depends entirely on their profit margin. Hence all the people on the main CivAv forum who will tell you that Delta is the greatest airline in history. :lol: I woudn't mistake the majority of a.net for the majority of investors. LOL. mariner

Re: Business/Network Strategy Frontier (F9)

Frontier started as regular airline, but once it went into bankruptcy they emerged as an ULCC. That isn't actually as it was and might explain why you get confused. Frontier went into Chapter 11 and was bought by Republic who had also bought Midwest. For a time they tried to run both airlines toget...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2018

Or, more hilariously, believe that NZ's successes are almost solely attributable to management and strategy - forget the rock-star economy or the tourism boom (which NZ is not responsible for, but disproportionately benefits from). :lol: Where are these "pro-NZ" posters that I hear so muc...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2018

Gasman wrote:

Don't you have NZ shares though?

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2018

But there are those of us whose interests are purely as the fare paying passenger. We see things differently, and when we perceive we aren't heard, valued, or are exploited will tolerate it for a while but ultimately walk. And there are those of us who have never worked for any airline, who can bes...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2018

I don't need the flight attendants of Singapore and Cathay to bolster my sense of male-ness, and the f/a's are okay on Emirates, depending on the nationality, but the onboard food sucks (too much salt), although the terminal food seems catered by a different chef. Qantas is good if you travel in the...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2018

anyone that thinks NZ is an amazing airline with fantastic service has never flown SQ/CX etc I'm not a Kiwi. I don't think NZ is an "amazing" airline with "fantastic" service, but I think it is at least as good as much of the competition, including the two you mentioned and the ...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2018

:checkmark: +1 - there's a reason why CX had to cull its version of the seat. NZ has gotten away with it for a lot longer than CX did, because 1) it has had minimal relative and significant competition until recently, and 2) it masks the inferiority of the hard product with outrageous safety videos...

Re: Frontier: Drunk, CrimeFederal Charges For Man Caught Peeing In-Flight

Geesh!!! I guess this is to be expected on the ULCC models today. Maybe these ULCC's should start hiring security guards or bouncers for these flights? When people are getting tickets for less than $20, I suppose it brings alot of questionable greyhound flyers. It's sad to see F9 like this. I sure ...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2018

Grow too quick and these guys may suffer the same fate - Air Chathams - Sounds Air They may indeed suffer the same fate. It's not so very long ago that big and mighty Air New Zealand was on the bones of its arse after it's Australian adventure and had to be rescued by the government. That's the way...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2018

Unless NZ has a public service obligation to require them to service WLG or CHC with long-haul flights, "fairness" or the "best thing for the country" doesn't apply - it's a fully commercial operation. Shades of the earlier discussion on NZ withdrawing from PPQ . . . The real op...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2018

Absolutely this is NZ's strength, and in an era where two-sector services are seen as undesirable, this is clearly going to remain NZ's focus - for which I would applaud them: why wouldn't you play to your strengths? Is it the best thing for the country, though? But CHC will never be a hub in the w...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2018

[quote="NZ6"]Do you really think a sensible business would spend $500 million to find out if [b]maybe[/b] carriers would use it? That's the same as saying it's a half billion dollar gamble and it might be for nothing.[/quote] WE won't know, we here on a.net. We who set ourselves as authori...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2018

it seems it's only required for long haul, yet WLG hasn't got commitment from a carrier that will actually use it. So arguably it could be a $500 white elephant? or an expense today which will benefit WLG sometime in the future 15+ years? Maybe it would - we won't know until it's built - LOL. I get...