It would seem that many posters are recognising that there is a severe limitation, at this time, on information available, but as usual, try to pronounce conclusions based on the information available being both correct and total. For instance, that the first landing attempt is the start of the even...
Jump to postUn-atributed Boeing source reported latest software fixes not yet accepted and RTS now August or later.
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There is one problem. How is Boeing going to pay for the replacement of the MAX? The current crisis means that Boeing is stuck with the MAX. As such they cannot cancel it anymore. They need the cash and thus they need t find a way to get it into the air. Even worse, this crisis may just mean that t...
Jump to postNow would be a good time for Boeing to announce the cancellation of the entire MAX program. It would be completely lost and ignored by the mainstream media because of other news. Airlines would be grateful not to have to take their rather optimistic orders, and Boeing won’t make a loss on building ...
Jump to postAnd yet from a Transport Canada employee there was an email speculating that the MAX could return to service by essentially just turning MCAS off. Maybe they thought the Procedure that Boeing published after Lionair was sufficient. Wasn't that email because Boeing couldn't figure out how to fix MCA...
Jump to postHonest questions: * What did TC know? * What questions did TC ask? https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-transport-canada-test-pilots-had-questions-about-boeings-737-max-as/ https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/boeing-737-max-second-canadian-public-hearing-1.549230 Rather than repeat previous ...
Jump to postHouse investigation officially declare what was pretty much already known about the MAX design. Given the state of the airline industry right now, I think most airlines could care less if it flies again this year. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/06/house-investigation-finds-boeings-737-max-was-marred-...
Jump to posthttps://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-transport-canada-test-pilots-had-questions-about-boeings-737-max-as/ https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/boeing-737-max-second-canadian-public-hearing-1.549230 Rather than repeat previous posts. Ray Your second link goes to something about a baseball stad...
Jump to post[b) TC knew and did not act, FAA knew and did not act, Boeing knew and did not act Ray Honest questions: * What did TC know? * What questions did TC ask? https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-transport-canada-test-pilots-had-questions-about-boeings-737-max-as/ https://www.cbc.ca/news/polit...
Jump to postTransport Canada didn't have the authority to ground Ethiopian aircraft and therefore can't be culpable. Yes they can ground Canadian registered aircraft and restrict access to their regulated airspace, and did post ET302. They can also dissent from the Boeing/FAA status quo. they did not act. All ...
Jump to postTransport Canada didn't have the authority to ground Ethiopian aircraft and therefore can't be culpable. Yes they can ground Canadian registered aircraft and restrict access to their regulated airspace, and did post ET302. They can also dissent from the Boeing/FAA status quo. they did not act. All ...
Jump to postTC also missed the opportunity to get MAX grounded post Lion Air: '...…Transport Canada in November 2018 asked Boeing....."Transport Canada requests further details to understand whether the potential exists for a single failure . . . to cause an inadvertent nose down pitch command from the st...
Jump to postEt tu Brutus. WSJ- FAA Grand Jury witnesses put the knife into scape goat Forkner. Could be used as an 'in' for wider action against Boeing. No pay wall version: https://www.marketscreener.com/BOEING-COMPANY-THE-4816/news/Boeing-Two-FAA-Officials-Are-Key-Witnesses-in-Criminal-Probe-of-Ex-Boeing-Pilo...
Jump to posthttps://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/boeing-737-max-second-canadian-public-hearing-1.5492306 Transport Canada were acquiescent on MCAS prior to EIS: '....test pilots posed questions about the 737 Max in 2016,...The documents show Transport Canada's test pilots asked for more information about the plane'...
Jump to postSomething conspicuously missing from the CVR excerpts in the ET interim report is ANY mention of ANY checklist or even discussion of the problem. Forget about the runaway stabilizer NNC that the AD specified but no checklist for any problem. The discussion/action to cutout the stab trim switches ju...
Jump to postThe credible voice of reason. Engineering sciece if you like. '...a common misunderstanding is that ET302 excessive speed made trimming harder. Just the opposite! The mistrim was excessive nose down trim. The trim point is faster, it will lessen the opposing elevator force. I don’t believe the crew ...
Jump to postIn the second case, if rework is required, it will apply to all MAX frames and it would make no sense to put aircraft back in service prior to completion of the mod - they are sitting there with nothing else to do but wait for modification and pre-RTS maintenance anyway. The condition does apply to...
Jump to postIf the same wiring issue exists in NG , then should it really be a blocker for Max's RTS? Somehow, that doesn't seem right to me. It could be fixed with an AD, giving it 6-12 months to retrofit all Maxs. Its not the same issue, part of the wiring problem is bigger MAX engines = larger fan blades = ...
Jump to postWSJ reporting prelim FAA decision is in favour of wiring changes. TC also in favour of wiring changes. https://www.wsj.com/articles/faa-poised-to-require-electrical-wiring-fixes-before-boeing-737-max-jets-can-fly-again-11583704341 No pay wall version. https://www.marketscreener.com/BOEING-COMPANY-TH...
Jump to postPress release and report can be seen here. (hopefully mods will not delete this reference post as they did Calhoun NYT interview). https://transportation.house.gov/news/p ... -findings- https://transportation.house.gov/imo/me ... 202020.pdf Can't use the links. https://transportation.house.gov/news...
Jump to postHouse investigation officially declare what was pretty much already known about the MAX design. Given the state of the airline industry right now, I think most airlines could care less if it flies again this year. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/06/house-investigation-finds-boeings-737-max-was-marred-...
Jump to postPretty much what was already known but just made "official" by house investigation. Ironically, I think the airlines couldn't care less about when it flies again based on the drop in demand for air travel. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/06/house-investigation-finds-boeings-737-max-was-marre...
Jump to postI think we should seek high standards but should not throw out the baby with the bath water. I think that the passengers on JT043 are happier with their fate than those on JT610. A happy medium needs to be found. We still don't know the nature of what Bloomberg says FAA referred to "extensive ...
Jump to postDo you have any links which further explain the shaming? I am not doubting what you say, just wanting more information. Someone I communicate with on a.net says that the FAA is punishing Boeing and will continue to punish Boeing. Is this the reason why almost a year from the MAX grounding, they are...
Jump to post'...Boeing said. “Ultimately, it will be the regulators who determine the training requirements.”...'. Boeing would have been in much better shape if they followed this simple rule. There may have been couple of customers adamant about avoiding SIM training, but there was no reason for Boeing to ca...
Jump to post'...Boeing said. “Ultimately, it will be the regulators who determine the training requirements.”...' https://www.thenational.ae/business/aviation/faa-says-pilots-need-additional-training-on-737-max-1.986016 Does this mean that Boeing have forsworn: 'The covering up they did last year' 'Jedi mind tr...
Jump to postHow about get your brain around procedures and training being part of the solution? . How about simply stating that the MAX is being re-certified, why is everyone so afraid to say that, everything is MCAS. The cables that may be cut by an uncontained engine failure is MCAS, the cowling is MCAS. I g...
Jump to postAll Boeing self inflicted me thinks. If the regulators had wanted to delay MAX RTS they would not have been able to as good a job as Boeing has done on themselves. Incoming in 3...2...1... :wink2: I wont bother ducking. They probably have not done end to end software testing and they will burn up o...
Jump to postHow about get your brain around procedures and training being part of the solution? . How about simply stating that the MAX is being re-certified, why is ev, not uncontrolled fettling have anything to do MCASeryone so afraid to say that, everything is MCAS. The cables that may be cut by an uncontai...
Jump to postBoeing did not submit a solution in June, it failed testing before hand and are yet to submit a working solution to date. . Ok, that one is new to me, or are you reclassifying the bit flip testing? How about the testing that the pilots did and all recovered the a/c just using non-standard methods, ...
Jump to postOk. I'm open to your theory of why things all of a sudden started moving. Maybe, and walk with me here, maybe Boeing is actually working on fixing MCAS and is systematically getting through all of the items that the FAA and other agencies need addressed. I know the MAX is forever linked to MCAS, so...
Jump to postI don't want to go off topic, but I didn't want to start a new thread either. Is this Fuel Tank FOD issue a Boeing wide concern (787, 777, 767) or just in the Max? If just the Max why? If I'm out of line, and this is common across Boeing in 2020 feel free to delete this post.. I have my theory's , ...
Jump to postUdall, Senators Introduce Comprehensive Bill To Break Up Cozy Relationship Between FAA And Aviation Industry https://ladailypost.com/udall-senators-introduce-bill-to-break-up-cozy-relationship-between-faa-and-aviation-industry/ https://www.blumenthal.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2020_02_25%20-%20Restori...
Jump to postA220 - engine failures A350 - engine shutdowns after liquid spillage in the cockpit In particular only by lucky chance did we not lose two A350s. If we apply the same theory with the MAX, we have to ask the question - what else have we missed? I think you know why. You are not naive to believe that...
Jump to postReally not trying to stir the pot or derail the thread, honest question though. Isn't MSPNWA kinda right? We've had quite a few instances of engine failures in A220s and A350s, luckily only one engine going out, but eventually, isn't it likely you'll get a dual engine failure? I know there are plen...
Jump to postUsual rambling nonsense. No further response. The truth sometimes hurts, doesn't it? Your white flag is accepted. This trope again? It’s clear that the FAA exhibited some serious shortcomings in certifying the MAX. They should be rightly criticised for that. They now appear to be righting that wron...
Jump to postNo. Random failures are exactly that. Look again at the FAA risk assessment Catastrophic events were expected without a fix and they gambled that could get the fix done before the next one - They lost, people were killed. Regulators "gamble" all the time. Look at the gamble global regulat...
Jump to postNo. Random failures are exactly that. Look again at the FAA risk assessment Catastrophic events were expected without a fix and they gambled that could get the fix done before the next one - They lost, people were killed. You're essentially stating my point. After JT Boeing started working on a fix...
Jump to postNo. They gambled on beating the laws of probability and people lost their lives because of it. If they had actually been gambling they would have contemplated no fix at all after JT and just counted on pilots following the runaway trim procedure for the remaining service life of the MAX. Instead th...
Jump to postTo be fair, Boeing said they were going to fix MCAS before the Ethiopian crash - Reuters reported on 30th November 2018 that Boeing was working on a fix to allow MCAS to check both AOA sensors. The primary plan was to launch the update within six to eight weeks , which means that the update was mea...
Jump to postI'm sure if you put any other aircraft under the microscope you would find similar issues. The problem with regulatory agencies like the FAA is that they simply don't have the necessary talent to properly evaluate aircraft. Who would know better than the people that actually built it? Should the go...
Jump to postBA falling 4% as FAA are mandating new MAX fixes, immediately affecting 128 US registered aircraft. Affects ALL Max built so far. Any knowledgeable people care to take a guess if or how this will affect RTS? FAA proposes new safety fix for MAX production lapse https://seekingalpha.com/news/3545356?...
Jump to postYou make it sounds as if they'll have to tear the plane apart from stem to stern. I just spoke with a friend who's an engineer on the 777X program about this. This isn't a big deal or issue to fix. These comments are just downright shameful. We have had people closer than just friends with engineer...
Jump to postBA falling 4% as FAA are mandating new MAX fixes, immediately affecting 128 US registered aircraft. FAA proposes new safety fix for MAX production lapse https://seekingalpha.com/news/3545356?source=ansh The FAA's proposed fix would require inspecting and fixing a metallic lining that serves as a sh...
Jump to postI think the FAA has been irresponsible twice now - firstly they should have actually done their jobs and not taken Boeing's word for everything. It seems like they were just totally absent and had no idea what was going on. But now, they're being irresponsible again by letting this drag on for much...
Jump to postBoeing Finds Fuel-Tank Debris in 2/3 of MAX Jets Inspected (50 so far). Article says that debris included tools, rags and boot coverings. Boeing has vaunted procedures to prevent this, which apparently were being ignored, per the article. https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-finds-fuel-tank-debris-i...
Jump to postEthiopians to issue only an 'interim' report on ET302 crash by 10th March. Stated investigation still ongoing.
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Boeing faces more fines/litigation in regard to non-disclosure and non-compliance with regulations. https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/companies/boeing-failure-to-fix-737-max-warning-light-may-draw-faa-penalty/ar-BB10ew86 Ray Does this say the the AoA disagree warning had been mandated by the FAA an...
Jump to postBoeing faces more fines/litigation in regard to non-disclosure and non-compliance with regulations.
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Boeing faces more fines/litigation in regard to non-disclosure and non-compliance with regulations.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/compa ... r-BB10ew86
Ray