One factor that nobody has mentioned They got 6 LGA slots from AS this year. Four have already been delivered Two come in Dec off a lease from B6. That is a pretty substantial increase in capacity for southwest at LaGuardia year-over-year They must feel it is enough Exactly. Since WN isn’t a huge p...
Jump to postI wonder how many of WN's passengers on BNA-EWR were headed to or coming from the east side of the Hudson versus New Jersey. I don’t know, but just having LGA will be fine. EWR is congested and inefficient so I’m not sad to see it go. Once the MAX fiasco is over, BNA will see plenty of growth and n...
Jump to postOne factor that nobody has mentioned They got 6 LGA slots from AS this year. Four have already been delivered Two come in Dec off a lease from B6. That is a pretty substantial increase in capacity for southwest at LaGuardia year-over-year They must feel it is enough Exactly. Since WN isn’t a huge p...
Jump to postHas Delta added any routes or upgauged any routes since naming Nashville a focus city? No, and other than TATL and maybe AUS, I don’t think they will. Once this MAX issue gets resolved, WN will resume growing BNA and it will be hard for DL to launch p2p routes. BNA-IND might be a possible add from ...
Jump to postSo to clarify, this was being contemplated for a while and the MAX issues were the final straw?
Jump to postWN’s EWR-BNA route will be cut in Nov.....sounds like bad long term news for the MAX, and will continue to stifle WN’s growth plans at BNA in 2019 https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/25/southwest-air-to-pull-out-of-newark-after-taking-a-growth-hit-from-the-boeing-737-max-grounding.html At this point I won...
Jump to postWN’s EWR-BNA route will be cut in Nov.....sounds like bad long term news for the MAX, and will continue to stifle WN’s growth plans at BNA in 2019 https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/25/southwest-air-to-pull-out-of-newark-after-taking-a-growth-hit-from-the-boeing-737-max-grounding.html At this point I won...
Jump to postWas this going to happen anyway and the MAX provided an excuse to do it?
Jump to postWhat are they going to do to fill the gap until the MAX comes back online then? It ain’t coming back this year at this rate. I think we'll hear tomorrow from the horse's mouse what the plan is. However, there isn't a plan they can put in place that can fill the gap left by the MAX, without serious ...
Jump to postbarney captain wrote:Fargo wrote:Is this the end for an all 737 fleet at WN?
Do you think going forward they’ll add a different fleet type?
No and no.
Is this the end for an all 737 fleet at WN?
Do you think going forward they’ll add a different fleet type?
SEA is a tough market for two reasons I think. First, Alaska Airlines, if Delta had the half the gates/flights that Alaska has in addition to its current schedule, you would see a pretty powerful TPAC hub. If Alaska Airlines was as big in SFO as they are in SEA, you would see a very different UA hu...
Jump to postDL's goal with its latest announcement of hubs/focus cities is to go after cities with growing tech industry. SEA certainly fits that category. Whether or not that's the right strategy is a different story since these airports tend to become the most overserved ones. But they have plenty of money t...
Jump to postAnother challenge facing IND is that it is not a hub or a focus city for a major airline (US3 + WN). Considering I see Indianapolis as one of the stronger economies in the midwest (along with the Twin Cities), I find this surprising. But as a result, it is more difficult to attract non-ULCC service....
Jump to postA couple of things: 1) DL at SEA is pretty tiny in TPAC compared to UA at SFO or even AC at YVR. And given their buildup at LAX and non-west coast stuff going through DTW/MSP, it's unlikely to ever come close to what UA and AC has. And as a whole, *A overwhelmingly dominates Asia so SEA for DL has ...
Jump to postBNA should be the next chapter in their story. I would not bet against them turning it into a 200-flight station. Absolutely BNA should one day be on par with BWI, MDW, DEN, LAS, etc. It makes a lot of sense. While it doesn’t (yet) have the O&D levels of those markets, it is the only viable mar...
Jump to postDo you think for CDG-BNA-CDG it would be too much capacity with an AF A330-200 ( at 224 seats 36J | 21 W | 167 Y) or the 787-9 ( 296 30J | 21W |225Y) what about a 777-200ER? If AF were to launch CDG-BNA (or AUS, RDU, CVG, etc) it would have to be on one of their A332’s as the 789 and the 772’s are ...
Jump to postWell, it was a boondoggle in several ways. It went massively ($2 billion) over budget and it is arguable that the high costs at DEN contributed to Continental's decision to exit the market. The prediction of 50 million annual passengers by year 2000 was only reached in 2008, thanks in part to WN en...
Jump to postRecently I'm also more than happy to fly WN just because of the train situation at DEN. There isn't enough capacity to get passengers to and from the concourses. For the past year, every train I have been on is jam-packed. When coming back to DEN when we get on the train at C, it's already full. On...
Jump to postPerhaps they're looking at moving one or both of those services to AF 332 or 789 service, allowing the DL 763s to be used on other routes. I agree it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for KL or AF to fly to SJC. Looking at DL's other JVs, I think a KE SJC-ICN service could be a good fit, both due ...
Jump to postVacation Express released their official summer 2020 schedule today, and again as expected IND was not included. At this point it appears that IND could see negative yoy passenger numbers. Surprised that none of the local news outlets have caught on to any of these stories What’s going on? This see...
Jump to postI’ll ask again as it seemed to get overlooked the last few times I’ve asked.
What is happening with the CVG master plan? Nothing has come out on it in quite a while, the website is very out of date and it says the last of the plan was suppose to be done in “Q2 2019”.
Is there a snag?
Will DL ever be successful in making SEA their TPAC hub similar to UA at SFO? No. That was only the plan when it became apparent NRT was closing as a hub and KE and DL were fighting. Now that KE is a full JV partner there is no need to fly a bunch of risky stuff like SEA-SIN like they might have tr...
Jump to postBNA should be the next chapter in their story. I would not bet against them turning it into a 200-flight station. Absolutely BNA should one day be on par with BWI, MDW, DEN, LAS, etc. It makes a lot of sense. While it doesn’t (yet) have the O&D levels of those markets, it is the only viable mar...
Jump to postFirst time poster, long-time reader, and retired AA 777 captain. I flew into BNA for the first time in 20 years last weekend. All I can say is WOW! My have the times changed. Nashville has always been a special place to me. I began my airline career with American Eagle as a BNA based FO. Those were...
Jump to postDL already does CVG/RDU-CDG, so not sure why that is being suggested. Perhaps they're looking at moving one or both of those services to AF 332 or 789 service, allowing the DL 763s to be used on other routes. SJC is right down the road from SFO so I doubt they’ll be seeing one. I agree it wouldn't ...
Jump to postBNA should be the next chapter in their story. I would not bet against them turning it into a 200-flight station. Absolutely BNA should one day be on par with BWI, MDW, DEN, LAS, etc. It makes a lot of sense. While it doesn’t (yet) have the O&D levels of those markets, it is the only viable mar...
Jump to postHere's the thing though, why was DEN growing prior to WN's entry? Reading some of these comments makes it seem like UA/F9 were struggling mightily in the mid-2000s to the point where they couldn't grow DEN at all. Yet, passenger traffic surged to a then-record 43,387,369 the year before WN entered t...
Jump to postThey probably need to get going on a renovation of the clubs due to the increase in flights.
Not only that, but the whole of the existing concourses could use a refresh to match the new extensions.
BTW, is the Centurion lounge open in C yet?
Hopefully, this means one or both of DFW-MEL and DFW-AKL is on the horizon.
Jump to postDL already does CVG/RDU-CDG, so not sure why that is being suggested. I’m sure AUS and BNA will be getting a DL/AF/KL TATL flight in the not too distant future, but SJC is right down the road from SFO so I doubt they’ll be seeing one. SJC being next to SFO didn’t stop LH from launching flights to t...
Jump to postTangoCharlie123 wrote:https://thepointsguy.com/news/air-france-klm-eye-delta-focus-cities-for-u-s-expansion/
Air France-KLM Senior VP said they are looking at expanding into new Delta focus cities.
DL already does CVG/RDU-CDG, so not sure why that is being suggested.
I’m sure AUS and BNA will be getting a DL/AF/KL TATL flight in the not too distant future, but SJC is right down the road from SFO so I doubt they’ll be seeing one.
WN didn’t enter DIA until 2006 and only started growing significantly there within the last decade, but it is now on the verge of becoming their largest station, especially if they take all the new C gates. Conventional wisdom suggests a carrier won’t do as well when the carrier raids a rivals hub (...
Jump to postProbably NK. Seems like a good market for them to hit up the leisure routes. That was my first thought as well, but I wonder if it might be G4. Apparently the rumor is they're announcing new bases at BNA and ABE and expansion at others (if it hasn't been announced already), so a new city would fit ...
Jump to postTourism is up in 2019 for Memphis, again the UK is a big source of international visitors. According to the report, music is the main draw for Memphis tourists worldwide. Domestic tourists most commonly visit Memphis from Nashville, Dallas, Atlanta, Little Rock and Chicago, while most international...
Jump to postI have to wonder how much of the growth is being driven by WN compared to the other airlines. I worry if the MAX groundings last much longer, it will affect the growth here.
Jump to postCompared to Britain and France, Germany is much more decentralized so a lot of corporate headquarters are based in the FRA area (same as MUC). That is why there are so few transatlantic flights to Berlin and so many in FRA and MUC. Is this a culture thing, or is this the result of the geopolitical ...
Jump to postI've only been down on A once recently, to catch the BA flight and I was extremely late and didn't pay much attention. Isn't there a second gate for international arrivals? If so can it handle a widebody, or is the bigger issue the FIS temporary facility? There are two boarding bridges at the FIS, ...
Jump to postIt would have to be around those times as any later would conflict with BA. But also remember that barring a delay, they’d never be at B at the same time as DL would leave just as BA is arriving at A. BNA just can’t process multiple widebodies right now until the IAB is done. Also, DL would use a 7...
Jump to postA DL AMS or CDG flight would likely arrive around mid afternoon and leave around 5 pm (using surrounding markets such as CVG, IND, RDU as a benchmark), so it shouldn't have a problem being accommodated, but that would have to be it until the new IAB opens. Everything else you said is spot on. BNA i...
Jump to postTalked to some of my DL connections today. They’re speculating a CDG or AMS flight could be announced as soon as this fall. BA was announced in August 2017. We’ll see what happens. I know some of the BNA leadership. They are always looking for new international routes to expand, but even if an airl...
Jump to postI would prefer Delta over BA. I’ve taken the flight a couple of times now and found some of the BA staff (granted its a third party) at check in to be pretty rude/unprofessional each time for no reason, and not what you would want to represent our city. Check in was a mess each time with long lines...
Jump to postTalked to some of my DL connections today. They’re speculating a CDG or AMS flight could be announced as soon as this fall. BA was announced in August 2017. We’ll see what happens. What about the Sky Club expansion, when will construction begin? I wonder how it will affect BA if CDG or AMS is launc...
Jump to postYou’re right, I totally forgot we are dealing with experts who have a proven track record of success and have delivered numerous projects of this magnitude on time and under budget. Who am I to be skeptical? After all, they have done a fantastic job on the new ATS, it’s really smooth ridi....... oh...
Jump to postHold on a minute. The article states construction isn’t going to begin on the satellites until 2022. What? The satellites need to be operational before the Global Terminal begins construction, which is scheduled for 2023. How on earth are they going to manage that? The satellites will need to be be...
Jump to postI'm not sure why six international gates draw so much attention. It feels about right to me if the goal is to eliminate towing for departures. There will likely be some growth in weekend only seasonal Caribbean service either by WN or by others (look how much STL has, for instance), and having the ...
Jump to postIf Nashville gets AMS/CDG on Delta, and perhaps FRA, the timing of flights could put all three at the gates at the same time (alongside BA). I suspect as swing gates AA and DL will want back the gates they lose during construction. I suspect WN will temporarily give up a few gates on C until the co...
Jump to postHold on a minute. The article states construction isn’t going to begin on the satellites until 2022. What? The satellites need to be operational before the Global Terminal begins construction, which is scheduled for 2023. How on earth are they going to manage that? The satellites will need to be beg...
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