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by smartplane
Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing / Production - 2024
Replies: 140
Views: 24576

Re: Boeing 777X Testing / Production - 2024

But you would have your A35K or 78X in 2026. If the first 777X arrives in 2026 how long will the ramp up take? Will there even be 50 in service before 2030? At this point the 777X is not going to be solving any capacity crunch. And there is nothing stopping Airbus adding a A352K at any point I beli...

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by smartplane
Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates News and Discussion - 2024
Replies: 150
Views: 31097

Re: Emirates News and Discussion - 2024

A6-EUM and A6-EUI are ready with Premium Economy retrofit. The next one seems to be A6-EUR as it hasn't made any flights for 2 days already. P.S. A6-EUM even flew to Moscow today which means the first PE-flight there. In the current political situation this route wasn't really expected to feature i...

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by smartplane
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Farnborough Air Show 2022 - Boeing Orders and General Discussion Thread
Replies: 182
Views: 67532

Re: Farnborough Air Show 2022 - Boeing Orders and General Discussion Thread

The major reasons for Boeing's poor financial performance are write-downs on existing programs (especially space and military) and the inability to deliver the 787, not because they are pricing their deals at a loss (you can be sure if they were, Airbus would be at the WTO with a dumping complaint ...

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by smartplane
Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Farnborough Air Show 2022 - Boeing Orders and General Discussion Thread
Replies: 182
Views: 67532

Re: Farnborough Air Show 2022 - Boeing Orders and General Discussion Thread

One can peruse Delta's 3Q financials and get an idea of what Delta paid for the 737-10Max. One can do the same for Delta's A321 MAX order, though some preconceived notions will be blown. There is a reason why retrospective, conditional credits are so popular with OEM's and customers alike, precisel...

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by smartplane
Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ANA Orders 2x 7778F, 30 MAX
Replies: 27
Views: 8773

Re: ANA Ordera 2x 7778F

ANA not happy with their NEO's ? Or are they planning something else with the MAX's ? Or got them dirt cheap as 779 delay compo ? A good deal for ANA and Boeing. We will see the majority of X customers 'bank' some of their MAX and / or X compensation in the next 12 months. With no X or 787 deliveri...

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by smartplane
Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SAS files for chapter 11
Replies: 273
Views: 85798

Re: SAS files for chapter 11

This was a long time coming when we look back on SAS action with the first hiring of CityJet and when creation of SAS Connect (former SAS Ireland) and SAS Link. Both created only to dismantle their employees salary and working conditions. That SAS filed for CH 11 the first day after strike breakout...

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by smartplane
Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737 MAX 10 Development / Testing / Production Thread - 2022
Replies: 807
Views: 210005

Re: Boeing 737 MAX 10 Development / Testing / Production Thread - 2022

MAX9 will require the synthetic AoA, as will MAX7, MAX8 and MAX200 - at least for airlines who uses EASA as their certification authority, though I have read nothing that says the FAA will also not mandate it, as well. As of the MAX recertification, the FAA position on the third AoA sensor was that...

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by smartplane
Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737 MAX 10 Development / Testing / Production Thread - 2022
Replies: 807
Views: 210005

Re: Boeing 737 MAX 10 Development / Testing / Production Thread - 2022

MAX9 will require the synthetic AoA, as will MAX7, MAX8 and MAX200 - at least for airlines who uses EASA as their certification authority, though I have read nothing that says the FAA will also not mandate it, as well. As of the MAX recertification, the FAA position on the third AoA sensor was that...

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by smartplane
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737 MAX 10 Development / Testing / Production Thread - 2022
Replies: 807
Views: 210005

Re: Boeing 737 MAX 10 Development / Testing / Production Thread - 2022

Any chance you could point out where the 3rd AOA sensor is? I have been all around that aircraft and I can't find it. As noted, while EASA preferred a third physical AoA sensor, they have agreed to a synthetic sensor which computes AoA data from a variety of other existing sources on the aircraft. ...

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by smartplane
Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What are the plans for Airwork (NZ) two 757Fs?
Replies: 8
Views: 2179

Re: What are the plans for Airwork (NZ) two 757Fs?

Could acquisition be linked to the 2x RNZAF aircraft? Spares for RNZAF? Possible sale of RNZAF pair to Airwork? RNZAF pair replaced by newer aircraft discussed on PM's recent US visit?

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by smartplane
Sun Jul 03, 2022 10:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated #2: DL ordered 100 737 MAX 10 + 30 options
Replies: 321
Views: 93543

Re: Delta 100 737 MAX 10 Deal Imminent

Didn't think Delta would ever order Boeing again after the CSeries/A220 fiasco 6 years ago. Also...why do this when they have tons of A321neos on the books? Of course we would. Remember when Richard Anderson sent Boeing's stock plummeting after claiming to be able to get a 777 for 10 mil (albeit fo...

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by smartplane
Sun Jul 03, 2022 10:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Tim Clark: A350-1000 too small to be largest Airbus offering
Replies: 213
Views: 51916

Re: Tim Clark: A350-1000 too small to be largest Airbus offering

New engines on existing A380s, that aren't even that old yet, wouldn't be cheap. Nothing needs to be done in the short term, more like 6-8 years away. By that stage I would expect around a 10% TSFC improvement over todays best 70 klb sized engine. By that stage the Trent 900 would have been flying ...

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by smartplane
Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Tim Clark: A350-1000 too small to be largest Airbus offering
Replies: 213
Views: 51916

Re: Tim Clark: A350-1000 too small to be largest Airbus offering

1) there is no technical reason why the existing EK A380 fleet could not have new engines installed via STC/factory mod 2) the A380 engine thrust class is in the same thrust class as the medium size twin engine widebodies, so it can leverage from those programs 3) Historically 747, KC135, DC8 have ...

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by smartplane
Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Venezuelan airline 747 cargo flight sets off alarms in Argentina
Replies: 316
Views: 95404

Re: Venezuelan airline 747 cargo flight sets off alarms in Argentina

You still need to have been charged to have your passport taken from you, and this has to be approved by a judge. If there are no charges against you, you are 100% innocent and guilty of nothing. Sure, police investigations can carry on until they find something. But they can't take your passport f...

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by smartplane
Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Fleet and Network Discussions thread - 2022
Replies: 463
Views: 132391

Re: Emirates Fleet and Network Discussions thread - 2022

"FlightGlobal is reporting that Emirates is considering the deferral of its B787-order as it wants the manufacturer to focus on the delivery of the delayed B777Xs. " https://www.scramble.nl/civil-news/emirates-mulls-deferral-of-b787-order No X customer, with launch prices, retrospective v...

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by smartplane
Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Korean Air considers A350F and B777X freighter
Replies: 31
Views: 5692

Re: Korean Air considers A350F and B777X freighter

Existing 777X customers, with launch discounts, retrospective volume credits and compensation credits, would be mad to cancel. Credits are still accruing. Boeing will lose money on every currently ordered X. The question, is how much flexibility will the Board give to write new orders at new prices....

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by smartplane
Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Tim Clark: A350-1000 too small to be largest Airbus offering
Replies: 213
Views: 51916

Re: Tim Clark: A350-1000 too small to be largest Airbus offering

I told you a few days ago it was written on the wall, 1+1=.. but maybe you were unwilling to read. (https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1473981&start=50#p23351275) ;) The ball is I think in Boeings court, many 777x customers have dual source policies and demonstrated a lot o...

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by smartplane
Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Tim Clark: A350-1000 too small to be largest Airbus offering
Replies: 213
Views: 51916

Re: Tim Clark: A350-1000 too small to be largest Airbus offering

He basically had one with the A380, but decided there were better economics with other aircraft, so now there is no more A380 He did say he wanted more A380s. Multiple times. He was trying hard to get Airbus to commit to an A380neo, but they wouldn't. Contrary to some A Net wisdom, he also wanted a...

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by smartplane
Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Salmon company buys 757 to fly fish
Replies: 128
Views: 35837

Re: Salmon company buys 757 to fly fish

Rather than the smelly cargo compartment, I'm more worried about the complexity for a fish producing and processing company with a thousand employees (producing fish, mind you, not flying planes) to get its own sophisticated aircraft. And the wisdom thereof. While Bakkafrost certainly aren't idiots...

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by smartplane
Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Sales Campaign Thread - 2022
Replies: 160
Views: 35289

Re: Boeing 777X Sales Campaign Thread - 2022

If you look at aircraft programs of the last decades, the lifespan of an aircraft (first delivery to last delivery or first delivery of a successor, clean sheet or upgrade) is 11 years (747-8) to 26 years for the A320. With at least 5 years delay and a long developement time to start with, Boeing m...

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by smartplane
Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific to launch regional fleet renewal program
Replies: 40
Views: 10705

Re: Cathay Pacific to launch regional fleet renewal program

The problem for the a339 is that CX probably has compensation credits it can utilise nicely or just convert orders. CX will have accrued smaller compensation credits, as they negotiated a mutual delivery extension. As a result, they aren't eligible to execute the two later compensation offerings. E...

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by smartplane
Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Studying 777-300ERSF line: Potential Launch at Farnborough
Replies: 5
Views: 2402

Re: Boeing Studying 777-300ERSF line: Potential Launch at Farnborough

Boeing dominate the freight market, though this is no guarantee for the future. Compared to launching completely new models, the design and set up costs are petty cash. BCC and close partner GE, have considerable direct and indirect exposure to the 777 prospective feedstock, so this makes good busin...

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by smartplane
Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Tim Clark: A350-1000 too small to be largest Airbus offering
Replies: 213
Views: 51916

Re: Tim Clark: A350-1000 too small to be largest Airbus offering

Opus99 wrote:
........only a few months ago BA took up additional 787-10 options.............

Using 777X compensation credits?

Customer exposure to Boeing in respect to accrued volume credits, plus accrued and still accruing compensation credits, is probably approaching the 'uncomfortable' range for some.

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by smartplane
Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Leeham news article on possible successor to 767F
Replies: 56
Views: 9005

Re: Report: Boeing seeks 767 exception from 2028 emission standards + looking at 787F

This article https://leehamnews.com/2022/06/16/faa-adopts-icao-2027-emissions-noise-rules-death-knell-for-new-production-767f-777f/ quotes Boeing‘s freight-customer leader Brian Hermesmeyer who mentions, that Boeing is working on an exception of the 767 from the 2028 ICAO emission standards, as the...

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by smartplane
Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific to launch regional fleet renewal program
Replies: 40
Views: 10705

Re: Cathay Pacific to launch regional fleet renewal program

I've long since said that Cathay's impending regional replacement, will be "the A330NEO's last stand." If it can't crack this order, from an airline with 50+ A333s who LOVES the platform, then I'm not sure how it can continue to be taken seriously as a market competitor for 1st tier airli...

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by smartplane
Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirInsight : Boeing’s pre-Farnborough market review June 2022
Replies: 56
Views: 12777

Re: AirInsight : Boeing’s pre-Farnborough market review June 2022

Boeing will potentially achieve significant sales through to 2027, ahead of market share achieved in the previous five. The but, is effective prices, after deducting front end discounts, retrospective volume credits, and especially compensation credits, mean every sale generates a fraction of the re...

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by smartplane
Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737NG aerodynamic aftermarket kit certified
Replies: 35
Views: 8676

Re: 737NG aerodynamic aftermarket kit certified

This is a pleasant surprise. 1.5% fuel burn reduction on the 737-700. Claims of more on the -800/-900. Westjet and Delta are the launch customers. https://aviationweek.com/aerospace/aircraft-propulsion/aero-design-labs-launches-boeing-737ng-drag-cut-kit Savings of $12k/month or $144k/yr are not sha...

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by smartplane
Wed Jun 08, 2022 5:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737 MAX 10 Uncertainty Potentially holding up 16 billion dollars worth of Sales
Replies: 170
Views: 36326

Re: 737 MAX 10 Uncertainty Potentially holding up 16 billion dollars worth of Sales

Maybe I really need to see a shrink, but I kept watching test flights on FlightAware and all those insane maneuvers and tight turns they pulled off. The whole testing campaign was done on a -7 which was equipped with all the required sensors. I don't see anything rubber-stamped, but it bugs me that...

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by smartplane
Sat Jun 04, 2022 9:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United's supersonic purchase... one year hence
Replies: 86
Views: 14320

Re: United's supersonic purchase... one year hence

My career in the commercial aviation finance world started with Concorde. BA and AF received the air frames and parts on a gratis basis, as well as cash from their respective Governments for operating costs, and there were other financial benefits. Some engineers and pilots training was funded by th...

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by smartplane
Sat May 28, 2022 8:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus / Qatar A350 dispute - Airbus filed defence and counter-claim
Replies: 466
Views: 116035

Re: Airbus / Qatar A350 dispute - Airbus filed defence and counter-claim

And the 777-8F contract was drafted and firmed in the mean time Boeing was annoncing more delays on the 777-8/9. If one, Boeing hasn't disclosed the new delays to QR before signing this deal including 777-8/9 conversion to 777-8F and almost certainly including credits for the 777-8/9 delays, it cou...

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by smartplane
Thu May 26, 2022 10:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2022
Replies: 574
Views: 243237

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2022

With the sanctions on Russia and the dispute with Qatar, who does the customer acceptance flights for Aeroflot and Qatar Airways? There aren’t any CAF if they aren’t taking delivery of the aircraft. There are IATA guidelines and rules, as well as specific OEM contract terms, covering refusal or ina...

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by smartplane
Wed May 18, 2022 11:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350-900 now has a 283t MTOW
Replies: 126
Views: 32297

Re: A350-900 now has a 283t MTOW

Airbus seems to do these increases very often. The A321NEO went from 93.5t to 97t and now to 101t. The A330NEO went from 242t to 251t. The A350-900 went from 268t to 275t to 280t and now to 283t. The A350-1000 has gone from 308t to 316t and now 319t. There’s also a 217t version of the A359, specifi...

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by smartplane
Mon May 16, 2022 7:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus / Qatar A350 dispute - Airbus filed defence and counter-claim
Replies: 466
Views: 116035

Re: Airbus / Qatar A350 dispute - Airbus filed defence and counter-claim

I don't think it is a matter of 'conflating' the prior issues with the current one but rather looking at the current situation through the lens of the previous confrontations between Airbus and AAB, and especially Airbus' previous attempt to 'run around' AAB to the Emir. Personally, I would be very...

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by smartplane
Mon May 16, 2022 4:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Return of the flying Honu – ANA to relaunch Airbus A380 aircraft to Hawaii
Replies: 27
Views: 9575

Re: Return of the flying Honu – ANA to relaunch Airbus A380 aircraft to Hawaii

The A380 is rated for 40-45,000 cycles whereas 747SR/747-400D aircraft regularly had over 100,000 cycles over their lifespan. In fact, the 747-400D had to be significantly modified from the regular -400 because of this. I know the fuselage was strengthened and winglets were removed. Those aircraft ...

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by smartplane
Sun May 15, 2022 6:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 913
Views: 316651

Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

VCVSpotter wrote:
Heard a few months ago that LATAM still wanted those 789s, just delayed. Makes sense since they 'just' dumped their entire A359 fleet.

Might look like they were dumped. Reality is the 767 and 777 fleet have very low values, and floating charges over them securing other advances.

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by smartplane
Thu May 12, 2022 2:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer New Turboprop Aircraft Development
Replies: 741
Views: 8359

Re: Embraer New Turboprop Aircraft News and Discussion Thread

Wouldn't the Japanese be the perfect partner for Embraer to team up with to launch this new aircraft ? They have more experience with regional aircraft development than the Indians or Indonesians. The latest Japanese regional aircraft was so successful, right? The MRJ is done with 0 deliveries, why...

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by smartplane
Wed May 11, 2022 7:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737 MAX 10 Uncertainty Potentially holding up 16 billion dollars worth of Sales
Replies: 170
Views: 36326

Re: 737 MAX 10 Uncertainty Potentially holding up 16 billion dollars worth of Sales

In 2021 EASA set conditions when allowing the 737-8 back in service: - Design changes proposed by Boeing to address the issues highlighted by the accidents are EASA approved and their embodiment is mandated. - An independent extended design review has been completed by EASA https://www.easa.europa....

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by smartplane
Tue May 10, 2022 10:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AerCap CEO says “Boeing will Bounce Back”
Replies: 48
Views: 6817

Re: AerCap CEO says “Boeing will Bounce Back”

The last 100 years is no predictor of a company's future, unless the economy, technology, management and staff are unchanged. Boeing is where it is today from a short-term pre-occupation with shareholder value and management package maximisation, rather than engineering excellence and customer satis...

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by smartplane
Tue May 10, 2022 12:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 913
Views: 316651

Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

I suspect that Boeing had to move fast and go quite far to shore up the LH 779 order, in light of the new delays to the programme. The chatter over the last days has all been about LH taking the QR NTU A350-1000s and, potentially, taking over the future QR delivery positions. That could have played...

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by smartplane
Sat May 07, 2022 10:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avolon CEO says Boeing has "lost its way"
Replies: 90
Views: 17013

Re: Avolon CEO says Boeing has "lost its way"

davidjohnson6 wrote:
If Boeing is doing so badly... what is Airbus doing right ?

Airbus isn't accruing customer compensation for delayed NB and WB deliveries, including on one model for nearly every order.

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by smartplane
Tue May 03, 2022 10:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Sales Campaign Thread - 2022
Replies: 160
Views: 35289

Re: Boeing 777X Sales Campaign Thread - 2022

Bad news for you guys, "Clark is sticking with the 777x" https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeing-writes-off-1-2b-and-delays-777x-another-year-adding-1-5b-more-in-future-costs/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=article_inset_1.1 There will be n...

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by smartplane
Mon May 02, 2022 7:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Are the Pratt & Whitney GTF reliability issues fixed now?
Replies: 57
Views: 18102

Re: Are the Pratt & Whitney GTF reliability issues fixed now?

Yes. Most of the premature wear is in the hot section. The compressors seem to be holding up better than the turbines. The gearbox, that many assumed would be problematic, have had no issues. Pratt is aware of all the issues. I presume they are diligently working to resolve but it seems they have a...

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by smartplane
Sat Apr 30, 2022 9:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada Orders 2 New 767 Freighters
Replies: 115
Views: 34546

Re: Air Canada News And Discussion Thread - 2022

Just a thought. Maybe the new 767F order was due to AC still had 737Max compensation credit that needed to "burn off"? AC also ordered three more 787s Compensation credits start eroding once deliveries of the affected model re-start, so likely Air Canada are using these for this purchase....

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by smartplane
Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeings 1Q22 Earnings
Replies: 146
Views: 18199

Re: Boeings 1Q22 Earnings

The only significant circumstance to play a role was Covid, and every company in the world faced exactly the same difficulties. Not to mention that Airbus posted their highest ever profit in their history, with margins tripling in 2021. But that is also only Airbus I guess. This is true, and Airbus...

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by smartplane
Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022
Replies: 453
Views: 124722

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022

Noshow wrote:
However we don't know if today's specification might need rework without the FAA having given the final nod.

Or if today's specification might need to be improved to match A350 improvements in the intervening period, or further discounts offered to compensate.

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by smartplane
Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022
Replies: 453
Views: 124722

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022

Looking at history it appears to me that airlines buy the smallest airliner that offers competitive economics for the routes they want it to fly. The question I have is will the economics of the 779 be enough better than it’s smaller competitors (787, A350) to offset its larger size. I understand t...

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by smartplane
Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeings 1Q22 Earnings
Replies: 146
Views: 18199

Re: Boeings 1Q22 Earnings

As far as the valuation in commercial aircraft inventory, we can make a rough estimate from the valuation of the 4,200 737aircraft backlog, at $291B. So the 320 existing inventory might be valued at $22B. The 115 787 inventory were also valued at about $22B by Air Lease, in 2021. Thus a rough numbe...

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by smartplane
Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus / Qatar A350 dispute - Airbus filed defence and counter-claim
Replies: 466
Views: 116035

Re: Airbus / Qatar A350 dispute - Airbus filed defence and counter-claim

One thing is certain, airlines now will be looking to eliminate the cross-default clause in future contracts. In a duopoly with long lead periods for aircraft, it gives the manufacturers a lot of power. Cross default clauses, some of which are implied, won't be eliminated, as long as 'heavy hitter'...

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by smartplane
Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Fleet and Network Discussions thread - 2022
Replies: 463
Views: 132391

Re: Emirates Fleet and Network Discussions thread - 2022

let me sum things up one last time, had the 779 been delivered on time, they would have received the latest aircraft INCLUDING, latest interior, off load older 12/15 year old aircraft without needing to pay for d checks or renovation, paid the usual 1.2 million a month lease (not 300m, they're leas...

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by smartplane
Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022
Replies: 453
Views: 124722

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022

at this point in time Boeing as a company would be better served by a MTOW increase and a larger wing for the 787-10 and top of that a further enforced wingbox for a 290-300T 787-11 and 787-10F than continuing down the 77X path. Airlines will prefer the superior CASM to capacity ratio and on top of...

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