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by barney captain
Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN and BA codeshare?
Replies: 42
Views: 4240

Re: WN and BA codeshare?

TWA772LR wrote:
I actually think Norwegian or FI would be a better fit as a WN codeshare partner.



Our contract prohibits codeshare with any FOC (Flag of Convenience) carriers - so Norwegian is out. It also applies to any State owned carriers like Emirates.

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by barney captain
Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Schedule Extension 02/15/18
Replies: 226
Views: 19213

Re: Southwest Schedule Extension 02/15/18

southwest1675 wrote:
I figure it's significant if it calls for a press conference.


Stop. It's not a press conference - it's an employee rally.

BIG difference.

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by barney captain
Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Schedule Extension 02/15/18
Replies: 226
Views: 19213

Re: Southwest Schedule Extension 02/15/18

I wonder if the long rumored BNA crew base is going to be part of the Big Announcement. That’s a definite possibility. That kind of news is exactly what WN would announce at a large employee event like the SWA Rally at the Grand Ole Opry. No, that's definitely NOT a possibility. Never in the histor...

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by barney captain
Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321 NEO LR LBG - JFK Flight Tracker
Replies: 58
Views: 10460

Re: A321 NEO LR CDG - JFK Flight Tracker

The aircraft is also nowhere near its weight limitations given that they went up straight to fl360... This test probably has more to do with seeing how the cabin systems work on a real long haul operation. That's a good point - it is a test flight. If you look at their GS graph, there is a steady r...

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by barney captain
Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321 NEO LR LBG - JFK Flight Tracker
Replies: 58
Views: 10460

Re: A321 NEO LR CDG - JFK Flight Tracker

ap305 wrote:
The speed is not updated for a long time since its out of receiver range... It was at mach .78 at the last point which is the lrc of the a320 family.



....except they are being overtaken by everyone around them.

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by barney captain
Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321 NEO LR LBG - JFK Flight Tracker
Replies: 58
Views: 10460

Re: A321 NEO LR CDG - JFK Flight Tracker

75kts slower than the MAX8 just south of it? That is very odd.

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by barney captain
Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:20 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?
Replies: 143
Views: 10007

Re: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?

I think a lot of people are equating "old" with "outdated". Yes, the 737 is an "old" type, but it is hardly "outdated". If it were, Boeing wouldn't still be selling thousands of them! Airlines are not stupid, they know what they are buying and they are still ...

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by barney captain
Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:43 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: SNA Noise Abatement Procedure
Replies: 29
Views: 1151

Re: SNA Noise Abatement Procedure

You guys still do a full static engine run-up too, don't you? A few years ago an AA pilot posted their SNA procedures for for the 738, 757, and MD-80. He confirmed that the 737-800 does neither a static run-up or any cutback other than normal takeoff profile. When I've flown AS out of there, it has...

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by barney captain
Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:46 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: SNA Noise Abatement Procedure
Replies: 29
Views: 1151

Re: SNA Noise Abatement Procedure

I think all the airplanes use a noise abatement profile at SNA, but it’s the “standard noise abatement profile” (NADP-1/ NADP-2)... not the severe noise abatement profile of the past where power was drastically reduced. Now it’s a reduction to normal climb power, and a continued climb with delayed ...

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by barney captain
Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019
Replies: 95
Views: 8685

Re: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019

That would be the 8300 series? I flew on ship 8310 on its 4th day in service, MDW-FLL in June 2012. Exactly - any N83XXX 800 came ETOPS equipped from Boeing, followed by the non-ETOPS 800's with N86XXX, N85XXX and finally the MAX's with N87XXX. The handful of ETOP MAX's are just mixed in with the r...

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by barney captain
Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019
Replies: 95
Views: 8685

Re: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019

Not sure what a 73G is? Do you mean a 737NG (700/800/900) From [url]this thread from 2004[/url]: B737 would represent a 737-100 airframe (not my post; just passing it along); the B73G is a common designation for the 737-700 (the explanation in the thread is that "G" is the seventh letter ...

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by barney captain
Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:51 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: SNA Noise Abatement Procedure
Replies: 29
Views: 1151

Re: SNA Noise Abatement Procedure

I think all the airplanes use a noise abatement profile at SNA, but it’s the “standard noise abatement profile” (NADP-1/ NADP-2)... not the severe noise abatement profile of the past where power was drastically reduced. Now it’s a reduction to normal climb power, and a continued climb with delayed ...

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by barney captain
Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019
Replies: 95
Views: 8685

Re: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019

Not really from "shore" but rather from a designated ETOPS airports. Look at the Canadian Maritimes and you will that CYYR and CYQX are not exactly coastal.


Correct - I guess I was basing the "shore" comment on how it related to WN and the west coast to Hawaii.

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by barney captain
Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:36 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: SNA Noise Abatement Procedure
Replies: 29
Views: 1151

Re: SNA Noise Abatement Procedure

Redbellyguppy wrote:
Some of it has to do with what category noise slot you are using too. Some of the slots my airline, SWA, uses are the most stringent ones so our company blanket policy is that all flights do the cutback to guarantee compliance.


Great insight Red, thanks!

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by barney captain
Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:34 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?
Replies: 143
Views: 10007

Re: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?

I recall, (back in the days of the -200/300) that the aft door was not used in a water landing due to the outflow valve being open and the aircraft would eventually settle and sink tail first. But ... if you look at the -200Cs we flew, with the two rear exits being the only two for passengers in so...

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by barney captain
Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:37 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?
Replies: 143
Views: 10007

Re: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?

I meant the aft doors cannot be opened in a water landing because the aircraft is tail heavy. So the rafts can only used at the forward doors as shown on this safety card:


Good point, and you are 100% correct.

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by barney captain
Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:13 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?
Replies: 143
Views: 10007

Re: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?

I'm not at all saying the 737 doesn't have plenty of room for improvement, but some of your comments are just hard to justify; It has those massive LCD displays that can’t display much of anything more than the CRTs could on the classic. Huh? https://i.redd.it/l9fz2pm88mry.jpg The autopilot still ne...

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by barney captain
Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:04 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?
Replies: 143
Views: 10007

Re: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?

ro1960 wrote:
I believe the 737 (all versions?) cannot have rafts at the rear doors unlike the A320 family. So better seat upfront in case of water landing.


The rafts are located in the ceiling, one fwd and two aft.

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by barney captain
Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:38 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: SNA Noise Abatement Procedure
Replies: 29
Views: 1151

Re: SNA Noise Abatement Procedure

The 737-700 and -800 don’t have to do the special noise abatement procedure anymore either. It’s just a standard takeoff profile. I think the 757 is the only model that still does it. Delta flies a few in there a day, but that’s it. Unfortunately, the special takeoff procedure is pretty much a thin...

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by barney captain
Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:19 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: SNA Noise Abatement Procedure
Replies: 29
Views: 1151

Re: SNA Noise Abatement Procedure

I recently flew on a Compass E75 out of SNA. I was excited like always to experience the usual SNA takeoff but to my surprise and disappointment, no noise abatement procedure was done. I've had several flights out of SNA on other airlines/aircraft so I knew what to expect from a passenger perspecti...

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by barney captain
Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:19 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: SNA Noise Abatement Procedure
Replies: 29
Views: 1151

Re: SNA Noise Abatement Procedure

I believe it’s been pretty much a standard departure for quite a few years now. Not at WN. Noise abatement profile on every takeoff, every day. Hold brakes, 45% N1, release brakes, max thrust, climb at V2+15 to 800' AGL, reduce to cut-back thrust, hold V2+15 to 3000' AGL, normal climb thrust, retra...

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by barney captain
Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019
Replies: 95
Views: 8685

Re: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019

With so many questions about the Boeing 737s and ETOPS, let me ask this: When Morris Air was in business in the late-80s and early-90s, what type of aircraft did Morris Air use to fly to Honolulu from the Mainland? It WAS Boeing 737s, wasn't it? It had to be, since Morris Air was a 737-only airline...

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by barney captain
Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:39 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: More Efficient Takeoff Technique
Replies: 39
Views: 3465

Re: More Efficient Takeoff Technique

From a safety standpoint - a very bad idea. What if they deploy asymmetricaly - or not at all. There's a thousand reason not to do this, but no good reason to.

The takeoff warning horn wont allow you to advance the thrust levers in that state - and for a very good reason.

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by barney captain
Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019
Replies: 95
Views: 8685

Re: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019

That clarifies things a little bit. If WN's 738/3M8 fleets are ETOPS certified; I have to wonder if one of the holdups in starting service to Hawaii is labor/CBA related. We have 29 800's and (I think) two MAX's that have the ETOPS equipment - but that does not an ETOPS program make ;) We submitted...

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by barney captain
Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019
Replies: 95
Views: 8685

Re: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019

I thought flights were only going on sale in 2018 and the first flights wouldn't even take off until early 2019. I guess they are waiting for the MAX 8 to become ETOPS certified before starting. Couldn't they use the 738 right now if they wanted to start this year, since it is already ETOPS certifi...

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by barney captain
Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019
Replies: 95
Views: 8685

Re: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019

Others are free to correct me, but I don't think the Gulf of Mexico requires ETOPS. Overwater kits (life vests, rafts) yes, but you're never 2 hours away from a diversion airport. So if I'm correct, WN hasn't needed to be ETOPS yet. I assume you are referring specifically to WN, as others have been...

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by barney captain
Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019
Replies: 95
Views: 8685

Re: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019

I thought flights were only going on sale in 2018 and the first flights wouldn't even take off until early 2019. I guess they are waiting for the MAX 8 to become ETOPS certified before starting. Couldn't they use the 738 right now if they wanted to start this year, since it is already ETOPS certifi...

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by barney captain
Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019
Replies: 95
Views: 8685

Re: CEO: WN Flights to Hawaii May Not Start Till 2019

I thought flights were only going on sale in 2018 and the first flights wouldn't even take off until early 2019. I guess they are waiting for the MAX 8 to become ETOPS certified before starting. Couldn't they use the 738 right now if they wanted to start this year, since it is already ETOPS certifi...

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by barney captain
Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:11 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?
Replies: 143
Views: 10007

Re: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?

NozPerry wrote:
One thing that I like that’s similar is if you look on the overhead panel above the APU/BUS Gens on the 800 for example there’s two cut outs which haven’t been on a 73 aircraft in decades. For voltage of some sort I think

Hence the previous post and comment.

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by barney captain
Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:02 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?
Replies: 143
Views: 10007

Re: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?

Compare the overhead panel on the 737NG with the 320. Wow, I had to chuckle at the electrical panel of the new MAX. Not only is most of the overhead panel identical to the -200s I flew 25 years ago, designed in the 1960s, but look at the electrical bus switching panel. It still has the rounded cuto...

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by barney captain
Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:02 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?
Replies: 143
Views: 10007

Re: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?

You’d be more jealous if you stepped into a 787 flight deck. I have and I am. :biggrin: BTW, I think the 737 Max does have FBW spoilers. You are correct - with some fairly interesting design enhancements. Like Direct Lift Control if the elevators are jammed. Shades of the L-1011. My thoughts exactl...

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by barney captain
Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:11 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?
Replies: 143
Views: 10007

Re: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?

You’d be more jealous if you stepped into a 787 flight deck.


I have and I am. :biggrin:

BTW, I think the 737 Max does have FBW spoilers.


You are correct - with some fairly interesting design enhancements.

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by barney captain
Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:00 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?
Replies: 143
Views: 10007

Re: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?

Ask a pilots which is better to fly... the bus or the 73... most that have flown both leans towards the bus for the room , the overhead panel, and greater automation. Plus, track up on the MFD is really strange IMO. I heard one pilot describe it as “ball crushing.” Seems to me if Boeing redesigned ...

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by barney captain
Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:08 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?
Replies: 143
Views: 10007

Re: What makes the B737 an "old, outdated" design?

Agreed, the overhead is probably the biggest relic. Wrt track up, I think that's a customer option. EICAS - it is my hope that Boeing transitions to this in later MAX models. We are already seeing EICAS-esque alerts showing up on the MFD's. As the NG's progressed, there were a number of improvements...

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by barney captain
Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QX Lands on Taxiway at PUW
Replies: 28
Views: 6412

Re: QX Lands on Taxiway at PUW

CVR's can only be used by the NTSB for crash/serious incident investigation. The NTSB decided it didn't meet that criteria. The FAA is punitive - and CVR's can't be used for that. The FAA is not punitive. Especially when compared with other governmental agencies, but even independent of such a comp...

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by barney captain
Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QX Lands on Taxiway at PUW
Replies: 28
Views: 6412

Re: QX Lands on Taxiway at PUW

CVR's can only be used by the NTSB for crash/serious incident investigation. The NTSB decided it didn't meet that criteria. The FAA is punitive - and CVR's can't be used for that.

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by barney captain
Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Interjet announces SFO with flights to CUN and GDL
Replies: 12
Views: 1365

Re: Interjet announces SFO with flights to CUN and GDL

Ouch. You start your vacation out on a red-eye that lands at 6:55 in the morning - then what? You get to wander around bleary-eyed for 6 or 7 hours until you can check-in, change into your bathing suit and relax.Yuk.

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by barney captain
Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:23 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Single engine taxiing........Emirates
Replies: 6
Views: 1569

Re: Single engine taxiing........Emirates

SE for twins, two engine for tri-jet and quads.

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by barney captain
Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:48 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: WN and Satcom
Replies: 63
Views: 2633

Re: WN and Satcom

I am a bit puzzled though why WN would pay for the 737-800s to have SATCOM unless they were going to get the ETOPS certification


Those first 29 800's are ETOPS - and that was the plan when we took delivery. Now we will finally use them for their intended purpose.

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by barney captain
Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:09 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: WN and Satcom
Replies: 63
Views: 2633

Re: WN and Satcom

Quite the unbelievable (pun intended) thread.

I can confirm what Red and Tanker have stated is 100% accurate. WRT the CPDLC, I believe the exception is to find an a/c without it at this point. We got our first SATCOM equipped a/c nearly 6 years ago in March 2012.

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by barney captain
Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian A330 "flaps issue", lands 60 knots faster than normal at OAK
Replies: 15
Views: 6445

Re: Hawaiian A330 "flaps issue", lands 60 knots faster than normal at OAK

However, we have asked the OAK Fire Department to be on standby at the end of the runway just as a precaution for extra safety." That last line freaked out some passengers! Precisely why I use the phrase "you may see some safety equipment - this is just a precaution....." We landed i...

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by barney captain
Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pegasus 737 runway landing excursion in Trabzon
Replies: 180
Views: 35380

Re: Pegasus 737 runway landing excursion in Trabzon

The asymmetrical thrust created by deploying only one TR on the 737 is virtually unnoticeable - although there are restrictions on the runway (wet for example) that prohibit dispatch. The 737NG was one of the few aircraft certified using thrust reverse in it's landing calculations - so you need to ...

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by barney captain
Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pegasus 737 runway landing excursion in Trabzon
Replies: 180
Views: 35380

Re: Pegasus 737 runway landing excursion in Trabzon

And in any case, one of T/R was inop and the frame was flying in that condition for some unknown period of time... I ask myself why this is allowed at all. I can't imagine that the reverser on the other side mustn't be blocked by maintenance as to avoid any risks because of missing symmetry! Simila...

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by barney captain
Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Crazy landing today during high winds (110 km/h) at Düsseldorf Airport
Replies: 44
Views: 10135

Re: Crazy landing today during high winds (110 km/h) at Düsseldorf Airport

I would have felt much safer in a jet than the small Q400...... Turboprops spool up much faster than jets. You’re better off in a turboprop in these conditions. Watch the go-arounds in the Cargospotter videos, for instance. As soon as they go-around, they rocket into the sky. Harder to get them dow...

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by barney captain
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flights between Luxembourg and America feasible?
Replies: 23
Views: 3803

Re: Flights between Luxembourg and America feasible?

32andBelow wrote:
Cargolux already flies to america!


North or South ;)

I learned the hard way when I answered the same way (America) to a US Immigration Officer asking where I was born - and that was his question in reply. Apparently the correct answer is The United States, :)

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by barney captain
Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing, Fed Up With Zodiac Forms Seat Making Venture
Replies: 8
Views: 2515

Boeing, Fed Up With Zodiac Forms Seat Making Venture

I guess they finally had enough of the continued delays. Hopefully this will speed up the Polaris retrofit. Fed up with the delays that plague production of luxurious jetliner cabins, Boeing (BA) is forming its own company with the leading seat supplier to the auto industry. The joint venture with A...

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by barney captain
Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: GOL will fly nonstop to the US with the MAX 8
Replies: 36
Views: 5672

Re: GOL will fly nonstop to the US with the MAX 8

737max8 wrote:
These routes are 3600-3800 miles. What is that in nmi? Is nmi what the aircraft range is based on?


NM is the typical manufacturer refrence.

MCO-BSB 3283nm

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by barney captain
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pegasus 737 runway landing excursion in Trabzon
Replies: 180
Views: 35380

Re: Pegasus 737 runway landing excursion in Trabzon

If FlightRadar24 data is correct, the aircraft was around 140 knots GS (at landing 1 knot METAR TW) approximately 1,950 ft past the runway 11 threshold (est. Vref30 speed around 144 knots for est. loading, LDA 8,661 ft. and in wet/rain conditions). Prior to the threshold the data indicates 145 kn. ...

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by barney captain
Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:16 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Can someone explain this video? (737 Manual Start)
Replies: 17
Views: 1660

Re: Can someone explain this video? (737 Manual Start)

In this instance he was plugged in to the left side of MLG wheel well. Other jack locations - A. P19 external power panel B. Electronic equipment compartment C. Fueling station, door on the right wing D. Right wheel well, E. Left wheel well, F Aft cabin, on the ceiling above the attendant station G....

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