Having that amount of volume is all well and good, but after you’ve loaded all the carbon based organisms upstairs, there’s only around 20 tons left for cardboard wrapped stuff downstairs. Which basically means you’ll only be able to utilise “half" the volume available before you run out of we...
Jump to postI hope it happens. I expect them to order 20 of them. They are the same size as the 77W and they could use them for routes like LAX-SYD, ATL-AMS, ATL-ICN, and more... Considering Delta never operated 77Ws and all these routes can be done just fine on A359s.. I am not sure A35k is necessary given ho...
Jump to postUsing O&D numbers from 5 years ago ... just ignores..so much that has happened in the meantime. ... and just what has happened to change the dial? Fron what I can see on Dr Google (!) BHX pax numbers fell from 12.7 million in 2019 to an estimated 11.5 million in 2023 (unless anyone has more up ...
Jump to postUsing O&D numbers from 5 years ago to argue for opening a route to Dublin (not UK) versus Birmingham (UK), just ignores..so much that has happened in the meantime. And I speak as a person who'd benefit handsomely from a non-stop to Dublin, but its pretty obvious which of the two is the more viab...
Jump to postI wonder how many a330 operators have ordered 787 due to lack of engine choice . If you operated a cf6 or pw powered a330 are you less likely to order an a330 neo? Thats really not a major issue with most airlines as engines nowdays are very often under power by the hour contracts with the OEM so t...
Jump to postAs for those A359 orders, I think UA might find a way to trade those planes for some more A321XLRs or A321neos. I guess once United gets sick and tired to dump passengers and freight to enable them to reach their more distant destinations with the aircraft they have, and thus lose revenue on all th...
Jump to postIt's pretty obvious WS isn't interested in more 787s, or else they would have ordered more by now. This seems it for WS's "global hub" under this current CEO. I don't think that's entirely a fair statement. Westjet probably wants a few more if they're going to stick with widebody service ...
Jump to postI find it laughable that some here postulate that a 2-class B78X can replace a 3 or probably 4-class B77W. This is a flawed rationale. The only good replacement for the B77W is the A35K from the lower end (in the seating cap) and the 777X from the higher end. Anything else is nonsense. Now as to TG...
Jump to postNo carrier in India has the balance sheet to realistically withstand shutting down all of their operations if it goes on for a while (which is likely). I can see Air India and maybe Indigo being able to survive through this, for everyone else, it won't be pretty unless Tata is willing to inject some...
Jump to posthttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-cathay-pacific-aicrafts-boc-aviation/hong-kongs-cathay-pacific-to-sell-six-boeing-aircrafts-to-boc-aviation-idUSKBN2131OI Good news for CX, BOC Aviation just injected 700 million USD of their cash into purchasing/leasing planes to CX that would have an incredibly ...
Jump to postIn times like these, where everyone is going to be asking for state aid to survive, traditional measures of liquidity and balance sheet won't matter, all that matters is whether the countries oblige.
Jump to postfrmrCapCadet wrote:The FAA and White House need to facilitate repatriation of those in Europe. To do otherwise simply demonstrates they are buffoons.
And what makes anyone think with all that’s happening in China that BOC won’t go the way of HNA group? Not that I think it’s likely but there may be other ‘safer’ lessors. Assuming the money has already changed hands, how's a lessor defaulting gonna be bad for AA? Best case scenario they don't pay ...
Jump to postDude, this is an aviation forum. We like planes. Some more than others. Just as there are fans of the 717 and the 764, the A338 will have at least one cheerleader. Nothing wrong with that. Thank you. :smile: In any case, PR isn’t very likely to get the A338 as they’ve done the long-and-thin thing w...
Jump to postDo you think they'll cut production or build a bunch of white tails for a year? That's a fair question considering the fact air travel could bounce back quite quickly toward the end of the year or next year. In the same Bloomberg article, Scherer said that after SARS, air traffic bounced back with ...
Jump to postAn A35KF is going to weight maybe 5T more than a Frankensteined 319T A359F. Those are numbers you have just made up. I cannot see where an additional 5t would come from if you were to marry the -900 front and after sections to the -1000 centre section. The engines are 272 kg heavier (source TCDS) e...
Jump to postI think the tenuous links being drawn are nothing to the reality. A330s are the backbone of most airlines in Asia. Which still doesn't make replacing 24 A330ceos with 78 A330neos + 30 A321 XLRs within 8 years (quadrupling fleet size) any more sustainable or sound a business plan with all the capaci...
Jump to postTHe size of the A330neo order always seemed rather questionable since Air Asia X hasn’t appeared to strategically need a large widebody fleet with all the variability in their long haul route network. The order has changed many times. Given the bribery allegations, it does appear that the order may...
Jump to postI am surprised that Etihad couldn’t convince Altavair to take the A350-1000s off their hands. Different target segment, Altavair is doing this deal as a way to get cheap freighter feedstock for future P2Fs. They aren't actually getting the 77Ws until a few years down the line when the conversion pr...
Jump to postI am surprised that Etihad couldn’t convince Altavair to take the A350-1000s off their hands. Different target segment, Altavair is doing this deal as a way to get cheap freighter feedstock for future P2Fs. They aren't actually getting the 77Ws until a few years down the line when the conversion pr...
Jump to postIt can be interesting to compare the A350F to the 77L when both are carrying more denser cargo (of which the 77L is optimized for). With the 77L having a higher payload it can fly further when both aircraft volume out. This will still becthe case with a p2f 777-300ER ..and this will be the issue fo...
Jump to postYou won't get a 777-300ER conversion for 80 mio. In the topic when it was launched, most estimates was that it would cost 100 to 120 mio just to convert. It only makes sense in the light that the 747 is going out of production, and it will be the only similar sized product available. Where are you ...
Jump to postConverting an 777 is all but cheap. I understood replacing the floor beams is an expensive job. It’ll be great for FX but as always it comes down to cost. A350s are not cheap and a A350F won’t change that. You can still get great deals on the 77F and FX still has 15 on order (for a total fleet size...
Jump to postSounds expensive, lots of cheap 777s are going to be available soon. Converting an 777 is all but cheap. I understood replacing the floor beams is an expensive job. While that capability may be useful, by far the biggest operator of the 77F is FedEx who, we are often told, max out on volume well be...
Jump to postMultiple airlines may shut shop worldwide cos the "almost" pandemic. Wonder which ones in India may not make it. I suspect 1 or 2 may stop flying if this continues. Indian carriers, even with how terrible their financials usually are, have probably been among the least affected carriers i...
Jump to postPeople who actually care about the environment would see that a third runway at Heathrow is a good way to address the severe holding/congestion problems (I.E lots of planes burning fuel waiting to land) currently plaguing LHR. Unless they can propose other solutions to address this (they won't), en...
Jump to postPeople who actually care about the environment would see that a third runway at Heathrow is a good way to address the severe holding/congestion problems (I.E lots of planes burning fuel waiting to land) currently plaguing LHR. Unless they can propose other solutions to address this (they won't), env...
Jump to postPoor Norwegian has the 737 MAX issue and the 787 RR engine issue to deal with as it struggles to stay in business. Agree. Had they only gone for Airbus 320Neo and A350 it could have been a different story. Oh well. They'd be dead at this point with the A320neos instead of MAXes. All those extra del...
Jump to postWhile its a start, to divide aircraft economic life between current tech and old tech is way too simplistic IMO. At the very least, it would be essential to divide between narrowbodies and widebodies, with the former having longer useful economic lives as they have a wider operator base. An A320neo ...
Jump to postAt this rate many of South Korea's remarkably fragmented, financially precarious airlines will be culled, who wants to take a gander at the carriers there which won't survive?
Jump to postAdvantages for A330-200 (vs 787-8) - Ridiculously cheap to lease up, a combination of lease returns and airline bankruptcies means that its just not difficult to get 6-8 year old A330s for like ~$200-250k/month, which is on par with what similar age 737NGs/A321s are going for these days. - Likely be...
Jump to postUnexpected windfall for the guys up front then, must be quite an upgrade from domestic business to getting flatbeds intended for long-haul.
Jump to postCounting an order by HNA as a "real order" might be grounds for breach of fiduciary duty at this point, there's still a good amount of widebodies sitting in TLS that are supposed to deliver to HNA's airlines but can't because HNA can't pay for the things.
Jump to postReally interesting stuff here, just want to ask a couple of things: SFC has been set to 0.49 in all scenarios, this is obviously a fuel consumption/thrust figure of some sort but how does it compare to other contemporary A/C? (A320neo/B787/A350/777X et al) What assumptions, if any, does this model m...
Jump to postIf they really wanted to try their hand at ULR flying it would probably be cheaper and more prudent (in the short term) to source some used -200LRs for cheap (not exactly hot product) rather than convince lessors/financiers that an airline founded in 2017 will be fine with financing/leasing 12 rathe...
Jump to postIf an airline was flying a say 20 year old 737-800, its cheaper to own now then lease?? If said airline had MAXs on order or in service? Very much so. Any operator that counted on MAXs to gradually replace older NGs (15+ years old) returning to lessors now faces the prospect of having to extend the...
Jump to postIt will be interesting to see how A321ceo values and rents hold up over the next few years, at current fuel prices its likely very competitive CASM-wise to A320neo, albeit at bigger trip cost with more seats to fill (which should be fine assuming travel growth holds up and slots scarcity starts driv...
Jump to postSo will this force airlines and the FAA to look at the military practice of assisting their crews with medication / pills? I'd imagine replacing Coffee with say, Modafinil in the A350 cockpit just because the engines could shut down with an errant spill is a great way for pilots to not want to fly ...
Jump to postDoubt it, every leasing company with 777-300ERs is going to pitch their planes as relatively low-cycle feedstock for P2F to Amazon. And that's something which makes more sense to Amazon than every current new-build freighter bar maybe the 767F.
Jump to postAmazing thread. Any info on A330-900 and 787-10? Assuming an aircraft is factory fresh. A330-900: 800-900k/month 787-10: 1.1-1.2m/month 800-900k/month is very high for the 330neo currently 3 years ago Azul airlines signed a deal to lease 5 a339 for 783,000$ only , at the present the cost should be ...
Jump to posthttps://weibo.com/1699540307/Is0Jd1ECn?from=page_1002061699540307_profile&wvr=6&mod=weibotime&type=comment#_rnd1580443193387 Upon requests of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs PRC, Xiamen Air is sending out 2 planes today Jan 31 to Bangkok and Kota Kinabalu to bring back home Wuhan pax wh...
Jump to postEven needing a D-check, KLM just got a nice deal on a 77W, which can hang around few years for pax work before getting converted to a cargo plane. The book values are low enough such that this would be a valid route from the get-go.
Jump to postCathay Pacific will have 21 in all by 2024. The government-controlled airlines probably will avoid buying another american plane as long as they can after the MAX fiasco, and most of the world is waiting on EASA's word on the 777X since it's insisting on a joint certification this time. And the VLA...
Jump to postA350s for China and 787s for India are already packed to the damn gills I stand corrected. You haven't made zero arguments; you've partially made at least one transparently stupid argument. To complete this bad argument, your next step would be, "given that these [fish, apparently] have no gil...
Jump to postIs Mixed Fleet BA's way to lower costs with new crew? Simple answer: yes. Worldwide only fly longhaul routes, Eurofleet only fly short haul routes. Mixed fleet fly a mix of both. There are differences in scheduling agreements, allowances, pay structure and CSM (senior crew member) and the CSL/forme...
Jump to postSTC did an amazing job no doubt. But it is a lot easier to do a amazing job if you have a lot - a lot of cash and a new growing city like Dubai. Wish them the best for the future (both STC and Emirates, and look forward to fly them again) Without EK being such a dominant titan of an airline linking...
Jump to postWe will see won’t we, I bang my head to, what will NZ replace the 77W with? Luxon is no longer CEO I don’t think things will change to dramatically, the 787 wasn’t in the running to replace the 77E, that was between the 77X and the A350, the 77X dropped out of the running, guess what, they ordered ...
Jump to postThis is how United sees it. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXJfUmnW4AAra_y.jpg All of course depends on how much cargo you need realistically on long flights (Asia?) Longer term I see Boeing investing in a higher MTOW 787-10. That won't be for free, significant wing beef up, but definitely a good inve...
Jump to postClearly NZ considered cargo demand when replacing the 777-200ERs, and they concluded the A350-900 was Too Much Plane for them. But the 787-10 cannot replace the top-end of 777-200ER performance, so only airlines which don't need the 777-200ER's full performance but do need its capacity will want to...
Jump to postNot to forget that the majority of flights are shorter than 1000 nm (80 % of intra-European flighths, according to https://aviationdevelop.com/assets/content-library/Does-Europe-need-more-smaller-aircraft-1.pdf, average distance being 1000 km). Hence the next narrowbody is to be a turboprop for 100...
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