new bit of news: Boeing (BA) hasn't yet given the green light to build the small twin-aisle airplane, which will seat between 225 and 270, though the company in September formally created a program office to oversee the possible development. Beezhold is the second executive Boeing has publicly named...
Jump to postYes, AMS-GRR is a definitely a good route for this, and one most would not initially think of. But a few others, off the top of my head..... AA- PHL-IBZ DL- JFK-EIN UA- EWR-MRS SK- ARN-BNA EI- ORK-BOS BA- MAN-AUS SU- LED-IAD Yes, some other I thought of were: SAV, BUF, TYS, SYR, on either DL to AMS...
Jump to postist2014 wrote:TK Can use this bird for europe/cis/middleeast/indian subcontinent and africa, a great choice for them
So basically none of the responses on this thread have answered the actual question given by HenryJudge in the first place. There is a whole different thread for general 797 discussion. My bets are: AA- PHL-BIO DL- AMS-JAX DL- AMS-MEM DL- AMS-GRR DL- ATL-ROB DL- DTW-MAN DL- JFK-VIE BA- LHR-ORF UA- ...
Jump to postDo you think it feasible that the MOM due to aerodynamic refinements be given a speed bump, similar to the Sonic Cruiser? An extra 100mph could offer a shorter trip time, greater aircraft utilisation against anything else on offer. A competitive advantage? i would say i could well be, yes. the only...
Jump to postThx for the link HenryJudge. From what UH is saying (and is has been reported before-'the plus').The short term response from Airbus will be to squeeze an additional 2-3% out of the wing.I believe I read that the P&W engines also get another PIP in 2019 (2%).We also know they have built (and on...
Jump to postwhy is the 797-8 supposed to have the largest fuel capacity of the 797 family? surely the bigger the plane, the more fuel it can have to an extent obviously otherwise it would be too heavy to fly. This would happen when all versions have the same maximum takeoff weight and internal structure. The s...
Jump to postunited airlines seem to be excited about the 797! United Continental has taken a close look at an all-new jetliner that Boeing engineers are developing for trans-Atlantic flying, and the airline likes what it sees. "What we've seen so far is very, very interesting to us," Andrew Levy, Unit...
Jump to postwhy is the 797-8 supposed to have the largest fuel capacity of the 797 family? surely the bigger the plane, the more fuel it can have to an extent obviously otherwise it would be too heavy to fly.
Jump to postin the link attached below there is an image of the new 797 and some further info you may be interested in.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/20/news/co ... index.html
As for your specific models, I'd say that a 3,600nmi model with 260 passengers may be just a leeeeetle short-ranged for its size. It might have a niche market as an Asian regional type, but with some beefing up of the engines and structure, it should be possible to push it up to something like ~4,00...
Jump to postIf an AvGeek can’t imagine and hypothesize and wonder on a.net, where can he or she? There’s a lot of wet hens in here. Here are my guesses (sorry for not having confirmed sources with the heads of route planning at all carriers) - replace 763/757 tatl and South America - US hubs to Secondary Europ...
Jump to postI don't know about Asiana. They're pretty much switching entirely over to RR/Airbus, and they're the only airline to have the A350-800 on order. I'm not sure they'd complicate things again by buying from Boeing. I'd expect them to pick up more A330s before they go for these. yeah, I suppose they co...
Jump to postyes I agree. I expect JAL and Asiana airlines to try and snap some of these up pretty sharpish to fill this gap in the market that they could dominate. I don't know about Asiana. They're pretty much switching entirely over to RR/Airbus, and they're the only airline to have the A350-800 on order. I'...
Jump to postLooks almost exactly like the 787. I'm sorry but I don't see any real difference..... Most aircraft look the same. Tube with wings. Let's compare the middle two members 787-9 vs 797-9 Empty weight: 128T vs 80T = 63% Fuselage length: 62m vs 52m = 83% Fuselage height: 6m vs 4.5m = 75% Max takeoff: 25...
Jump to posthello, everyone i found this info on the web today and though it may be of interest in terms of what the new 797 could possibly look like. developing latest technology, including possibly: A 'double-bubble' D8 (twin aisle) configuration, Open rotors or Ultra-high bypass ratio turbofans, Advanced sha...
Jump to postOnly a little off topic: I think the recent developments Airbus/Bombardier have greatly increased the probability that Boeing will/must develop the MOM. They simply have too few 'best in market' models. The MOM could become a Best in Market, and if good enough a large niche. Dealing with the C seri...
Jump to postAgreed, it's not going to open anything up. However I think it's going to be a perfect aircraft for anyone looking for a 767 replacement. I could even see BA taking a few. If BA ever do take any, it certainly won't be as 767 replacements. That's because the last few 767s in the fleet will have left...
Jump to postI know IB works only with airbus, but it seems the perfect plane to cover all Africa from its hub in MAD and secondary cities in USA (esat coast), Brazil or even the Caribbean yes I think so too because of the extended range and supposedly higher seat cont it will be economically viable for airline...
Jump to postDo you think it feasible that the MOM due to aerodynamic refinements be given a speed bump, similar to the Sonic Cruiser? An extra 100mph could offer a shorter trip time, greater aircraft utilisation against anything else on offer. A competitive advantage? Hi there, yes I definitely think its feesa...
Jump to posthello everyone, interested to hear your thoughts on what markets could receive transatlantic flights on the MOM on both sides of the pond. My initial thoughts are BRS, BIO, CMH and ALB. I would think the same routes as the 767. If it is like speculated I exactly agree with you. The speculated MOM w...
Jump to postso as we all know, united airlines are a huge advocate to Boeing aircraft manufacturing company and then, whilst researching the all new 797, which is still in the design stages, I stumble upon this news report. It seems like, as themotionman suggested, united airlines are already trying to make ord...
Jump to postThe 787 is the 767 replacement. In BA's 3 class configuration the 788 only seats 25 more passengers than the the 763. I was refrencing the short haul frames. The 788 is most airlines 767 replacement but it has a stupid amount of range, so 787's are getting a hammering on really short flights e.g Ja...
Jump to posthttp://members.iinet.net.au/~1300subbox/797.jpg Assuming a 3 length family the shortest model would have range 25+% greater than the A321LR and the 757. This would open up every east coast city of the US with middle Europe. The two longer models won't open up any new routes. They will be to upsize ...
Jump to postI am excited about something like that possibly opening up routes from FLL/MIA to all of the major South American destinations including EZE and SCL. Yes, I think if the 797 has the possibility to do this, it could be revolutionary for air travel. I expect this plane to be in very high demand from ...
Jump to postLAX to some of the more obscure south pacific destinations outside of Hawaii, PPT, and NAN. Also this thing could provide FI with a lot more belly volume for fish. Yes, it would provide them with lots more volume for fish which would be much more economical for them. i could also see them snapping ...
Jump to postMy guess is, Icelandair will get a few and expand their North American destinations and even replace some 757. Yes, I think the will do that too as the 797 is said to have a greater range than the 757, so will be able to reach the expanded north american destinations they crave so they will be able...
Jump to postProbably Very little in the case of the shorter transatlantic routes. The 737Max would be in there by now or be there very soon. Anything bigger the 787 can take care of. Personally i think very little in the case of TATL, but may be helpful in adding more frequancy to current routes. Yes, I think ...
Jump to postI expect indigo to enter the transatlantic market with the 797. With Heathrow to LaGuardia being the first route. I don't believe the US government would take very kindly to that as they don't allow an aircraft like the 797 into LGA as the limit doesn't allow flights from LHR to LGA as this would i...
Jump to postI think it would be a perfect aircraft for CLT and ATL. Giving passengers the ability to avoid EWR, JFK, PHL and instead use CLT and ATL for transatlantic connection. Expect the US Big 3 to be on the order sheet fairly quickly Yes, the 797 would be perfect for that as ques at these airports can be ...
Jump to postI think about secandary brazilian cities ( CNF, BSB, REC, SSA, FOR, POA, CWB ) to US and Europe Yes I agree as it is said to have an upgraded distance capacity (3,800nmi on the 757 to 5,200 on the 797) it will make flights from YYZ to VCP possible without any changeovers which could not be achieved...
Jump to postIirc Boeing said that the 797 would have 20% more pax and range than the 75, but we can't be sure. Yes from what i have sen of it so far it will have an improved range than the 757, from 3,800nmi to around 5,200nmi which will allow it to be a much more flexible aircraft for flying to holiday destin...
Jump to postWhat's the practical range, what's the seat count, and what's the CASM improvement vs. a 757-200? Hello, MIfyler12, from what i can gather the main idea of the 797 is to replace the 757-200 as it is becoming a bit dated. however, there are some small improvements such as it is to be a twin-aisle pl...
Jump to posthello everyone, interested to hear your thoughts on what markets could receive transatlantic flights on the MOM on both sides of the pond. My initial thoughts are BRS, BIO, CMH and ALB.
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